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The 30 day, self check document is the deal we need to make public. Everyone can see that this satisfies the “universal background check” impulse, and satisfies the requirement not to create a database.

The anti-freedom fascists will never approve of this, because it does not advance their agenda. In fact, it reverses it, because the next logical step is to allow the self-check to be used for FFL approved transfers.

It is a poison pill for the fascists.

1 posted on 04/14/2013 9:31:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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How would any of it have stopped Adam Lanza or James Holmes?


2 posted on 04/14/2013 9:34:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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Once the requirement is in place for all or most transfers to go through FFL’s the next step will be to regulate them out of business. See how easy that works?


3 posted on 04/14/2013 9:35:38 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: marktwain
if I’m going to be required to pick my poison:

Why do you have to pick a poison? We have a constitution which addresses the subject. We have laws which are not being enforced or which are being enforced arbitrarily.
What is this constant urge to do something even if it's wrong?

6 posted on 04/14/2013 9:48:06 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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Shall not be infringed... That means you can’t even make small steps because infringe means anything leaning towards control , not that those collectivists in Congress gave a damn about the oath they took.


8 posted on 04/14/2013 9:52:39 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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The government, including the republicans, want the civilian population disarmed, period. The federal government has officially declared war on the Constitution and bill of rights, and will stop at nothing to implement their agenda. Defacto gun control will become law, and we can do nothing about it, except to willfully defy their unconstitutional decrees.


9 posted on 04/14/2013 9:54:52 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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It seems to me that they should stop targeting sales and start targeting criminals.

There are two broad types of persons associated with crime: convicted and non-convicted persons awaiting criminal trial.

1. Convicted criminals and their SSNs can be loaded into the portals.

2. TROs handle persons awaiting criminal trial. An accused is still innocent but courts have discretion to forbid firearms until a trial is complete. TROs reference SSNs and so these can be handled in a similar manner as convicted criminals.

Non-convicted persons who are wanted for a crime and haven’t been arrested yet need to be booked and brought to trial. If their ID is known, then subject to a warrant their information can be downloaded to portals.

Non-convicted persons implicated in a crime but with no identifying information must be handled by the public and law enforcement on a case by case basis. Such persons may remain unidentified in national portals so it falls to the public to pursue their information.

This leaves law-abiding people alone and free to exercise their rights. Otherwise a self-check clearance or whatever provides information that must be destroyed and between you and the fence post, you can forget information being destroyed in a total 100% manner. Information like energy can be transformed but never destroyed.

Freedom is preserved by never allowing the information to be created in the first place with exception for criminals.


12 posted on 04/14/2013 10:33:22 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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NO. Period.


13 posted on 04/14/2013 10:49:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Seek the lesser of two evils and God is likely to give it to you, and the greater evil too.)
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No more laws. We have 20,000 gun laws already. And when we "compromise", we never get anything in return.

You want this federal "purchase permit" thing? Okay, then I want to be able to use this "permit" to buy any number of guns, anywhere in the US, from any private individual, gun store, distributor or manufacturer. And having this "federal purchase permit" would legally supersede any restrictive state laws.

I still don't like it, but we would at least be getting something in return. Of course something like this would never pass because we're always giving up ground for nothing in return.

14 posted on 04/14/2013 11:02:06 AM PDT by barefoot_hiker
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Requiremnts that FBI delete records are worthless without individual govt employees being made PERSONALLY liable (civil and criminal) for illegally retaining info.


15 posted on 04/14/2013 11:27:26 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Hold the pig steady)
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We don’t even own one gun, but I have written 3 emails to my Senators about this issue.


16 posted on 04/14/2013 11:33:25 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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N O
17 posted on 04/14/2013 11:52:15 AM PDT by tomkat
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We don’t need anymore Gun Bills, unless it is to remove all of the other ones.


21 posted on 04/14/2013 5:28:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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