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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen. He could have been born on Mars...


5 posted on 04/07/2013 7:47:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

“Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen.”

Stop...Yes made him a citizen but not a Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen.


7 posted on 04/07/2013 7:52:01 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Sacajaweau
So what ? his daddy was not.
Citizenship, or natural born staus can only be confered upon him only if his mother meet the criteria.

8 posted on 04/07/2013 7:55:07 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Sacajaweau

Sorry. That doesn’t make Barry a “Natural Born Citizen”. Try something else.


18 posted on 04/07/2013 8:04:57 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not exactly. If momma was a US Citizen, and the father a foreigner, and there is no clear birth certificate from the US, there rightly should have been a document called “Report of US Citizen born Abroad”....a state department document.

If she tried to bring him back to the US on her passport and couldn’t show them a US BC, then she’d have had to produce the document I mentioned. She did not.

I know this because I went through this with my son.


19 posted on 04/07/2013 8:05:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sacajaweau
Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen. He could have been born on Mars...

NOT TRUE!! According to the law at the stated time of Zer0's birth, she was not old enough to pass on citizenship if he were born outside the country. (Natural born citizenship is a whole other matter.) This was all gone over here at FR back in '08.

25 posted on 04/07/2013 8:16:26 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Sacajaweau
Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen. He could have been born on Mars...

Suggest you do some reading up on the difference between "U.S. citizen" vs. "natural-born U.S. citizen" (the latter being specified by the U.S. Constitution as a criterion for eligibility for the Presidency).

Hint: They aren't interchangeable.

Regards,

32 posted on 04/07/2013 8:23:53 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Constitution require a natural born citizen as a primary requirement to hold the presidency. If he is born outside of the US he is not natural born. If one of his parents is a non-citizen at the time of his birth he is not natural born.

Do either of these disqualifiers apply to Barak?

33 posted on 04/07/2013 8:24:45 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Sacajaweau
Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen. He could have been born on Mars...

Wrong, this has been pointed out many times before on FR but still you don't get it. In 1961 the laws of the USA were such that if a child only had one citizen parent that parent had to meet certain standards(time length and age wise)in order for their child to be a US citizen if said child was born out of the country. Stanly didn't meet these requirements. Therefore, unless Bozo was born in the USA proper he is not a US citizen therefore he is not holding the office of President legally.

36 posted on 04/07/2013 8:32:04 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Sacajaweau

Even so, he had to give up his citizenry to attend an Indonesian school. The fact that he gave it up, even as a child, disqualifies him from running for President.


39 posted on 04/07/2013 8:36:51 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not according immigration laws at the time.


42 posted on 04/07/2013 8:42:31 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not according immigration laws at the time.


44 posted on 04/07/2013 8:44:37 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Sacajaweau

“Stop...Momma was a citizen of the USA. That made him a citizen. He could have been born on Mars...”

How serious a crime is a forged Hawaii certificate?


46 posted on 04/07/2013 8:48:41 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Sacajaweau

She was too young to transmit citizenship.


52 posted on 04/07/2013 9:17:23 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Cold Case Posse Supporter

Stop....your ignorance is showing Sacajaweau


“Subject to the Jurisdiction”: You Can’t Have It Both Ways UPDATED with 2 Official Proclamations From The US Administration of 1859

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/subject-to-the-jurisdiction-you-cant-have-it-both-ways/


60 posted on 04/07/2013 10:15:47 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Sacajaweau

Did you even read the article?

Why aren’t you the least bit interested in the fraud here?

I could understand if someone rolled their eyes about “some technicality” (not my opinion) like in John McCain’s case but this goes way beyond a technicality.

If Obama was born in Hawaii and had a valid birth certificate, all indications are that SCOTUS doesn’t give a rip about his foreign father. BUT THE STORY DOESN”T END THERE.

Obama doesn’t have ANY papers documenting ANYTHING about him.

That’s the point. He’s producing fraudulent documents.

John McCain didn’t do that.
Romney didn’t do that.
Cruz wouldn’t do that
Rubio wouldn’t do that.
Jindal wouldn’t do that.

Can’t you understand that that is a MAJOR STEP UP from a “technicality?”
It’s “enenmy combatant” territory.
It’s treason territory.
It’s coup territory.
It’s criminal conspiracy territory.
It’s fraud and forgery territory.
It’s election fraud, mail fraud, money laundering territory.

The article points out that Stanley Ann was messing with the US Consulate in Jakarta. How did she get Obama in and out of places without a US Passport. He wasn’t on her passport so how did he travel. And most likely (if I understand correctly) was NEVER on her passport since she needed a US birth certificate to put him on it.


62 posted on 04/07/2013 10:29:27 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Sacajaweau

That she made him a citizen because she was a citizen is not true. The law at the time said she had be past the age of 18 for four years in order to convey citizenship on her own.

She was younger than the limit when she had him, so she couldn’t do it on her own.


78 posted on 04/07/2013 12:29:01 PM PDT by willyd
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