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Suicides and Homicides in Patients Taking Paxil, Prozac, and Zoloft: Why They Keep Happening
MedicationSense.com ^ | February 12, 2013 | Jay S. Cohen M.D.

Posted on 02/13/2013 11:12:14 AM PST by Jyotishi

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Complete title: Suicides and Homicides in Patients Taking Paxil, Prozac, and Zoloft: Why They Keep Happening -- And Why They Will Continue
1 posted on 02/13/2013 11:12:26 AM PST by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

For one thing they are prescribed to people that are down and depressed to begin with


2 posted on 02/13/2013 11:21:37 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby

“For one thing they are prescribed to people that are down and depressed to begin with”

Is there a study where they dose normal, undepressed people? That would be interesting.

Likewise MDMA, which enhances serotonin.


3 posted on 02/13/2013 11:25:58 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Jyotishi
I took Prozac for a short period of time back in the 1990s. At first the drug evened me out. Not sad, not happy, just mellow. But then I became lethargic and developed an I don't care attitude about life. I suspect that if I had continued, depression would have really set in and I might have offed myself.

Medications are worthwhile for a slew of physical maladies, but I'm not so sure they are always good for mental or emotional problems. I derived more benefit and incurred a lot less risk from counseling.

4 posted on 02/13/2013 11:27:50 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: al baby

“For one thing they are prescribed to people that are down and depressed to begin with”

Yeah, it’s a kind of crap-shoot. Seems like Docs try various things and see how it goes. Like switching foods for a pet that is a finicky eater.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 11:29:02 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: al baby

I was at a suicide where the guy had done himself in with Budweiser and Elavil (amitriptyline).

The ME picked up the empty bottle, looked at me and said, “This sh*t’s killed more people than ever made ‘em happy.”


6 posted on 02/13/2013 11:33:21 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: al baby

I theorize that they are prescribed and then the patient is not helped to work through their issues. The drug is supposed to take care of it. So they don’t have to confront their problems, work out coping skills, change any attitude, remove themselves from any situations.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 11:35:10 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: fatnotlazy

I took Zoloft same complaint also I know TMI I could not finish sexualely at all while on it no matter what we did


8 posted on 02/13/2013 11:35:41 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Jyotishi

Most psychiatric drugs mimic the effects of marijuana on the brain. Don’t remember many pot smokers killing themsevles. They must have really screwed up. God put it there for a purpose.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 11:42:02 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Jyotishi
I remember reading an article about a meeting of psychiatrists at the advent of these kind of antidepressants. The announcer waxed eloquent while describing how these drugs would revolutionize psychiatry. Also described was the fact that a lot of money would be made from them.

A lot of people who go into a doctor and complain of being depressed actually just need to talk it out. Sometimes they know why they are blue, sometimes they don't. But it seems as though if someone is lucid enough to have a conversation maybe they would benefit from talking it out.

Taking a drug is much easier, but is it the most responsible thing in putting a salve over an unknown leg ulcer?

10 posted on 02/13/2013 11:44:17 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Jyotishi
I have seen Serotonin Syndrome happen to a person. It was like she had taken a very powerful halucigentic. I'm not a doctor but it was me and her not six doctors who caught it and properly diagnosed it.

There is a higher risk in some patients for this especially ones who suffer neurological disorders which can contribute to depression and anxiety to start with. I also find it insanity that government, media, and many doctors in ignorance fear safer medications like Valium, Xanax, Klopinin, Librium, etc mainly due to the fact they improperly prescribe dosage vs bloodstream life. I'm a 18 year daily user of Xanax and my wife a 28 year user. It can be done. Neither one of us can take any form of any antidepressant in any strength.

Here is a side affect you likely never heard of and Paxil is the worse for it. In males it can block your bladder. No joke not making it up been there, done that, & had a catheter nearly two weeks till the stuff left my bloodstream. This causes a condition where you don't have too much time to act called Dysreflexia. Basically it's shock and can lead to stroke and death.

11 posted on 02/13/2013 11:46:41 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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Xanax is a god send for my panic attacks when i can get it prescribed


12 posted on 02/13/2013 11:55:47 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: DBrow; Jyotishi

As I understand it, one of the quickest ways to get SSI disability is to tell them you are crazy. So people go get on psych meds to have that paper trail.

I would bet a large number of “normal” people find that taking the stuff, especially if the dosage is large, really does make them crazy.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 11:57:18 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: windcliff

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14 posted on 02/13/2013 12:00:47 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Persevero
I theorize that they are prescribed and then the patient is not helped to work through their issues. The drug is supposed to take care of it. So they don’t have to confront their problems, work out coping skills, change any attitude, remove themselves from any situations.

They are also used too often in cases where the primary care doctor did not do an extensive medical history work up and check for underlying physical ailments of which anxiety and depression are secondary symptoms. Vestibular Disorders and sensory processing related disorders are one of the biggest in that respect.

I'm diagnosed as having General Anxiety Disorder. That diagnosesd came 18 years ago. The protocol treatment is usually antidepressants. But it took several years before I linked my G.A.D. to my life long Inner Ear and sensory related ailments. Antidepressants almost drove me off the deep end and did do so to my wife who is a quadriplegic.

We can take Xanax correction we must take Xanax I use it to help tone down my sensory system to control seizure activity from sensory induced stimulation. Doctors wanted to hand me antidepressants like candy but panicked over a .5mg {half a mg} pill of Xanax four times a day.

In many cases seeing what is called a Therapist helps. They are much more smarter than a typical Shrink. The Shrink says here take these and see you in three months.

I've had PTSD as has my wife I saw one nearly 5 years. It was a learning experience for me and him. I taught him about Vestibular Disorder induced Panic Disorder and he helped me with the PTSD. Both had hit me at the same time. The PTSD went away. The other I'll have for life. No cures as it is neurological damage.

15 posted on 02/13/2013 12:04:55 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: fatnotlazy

I was put on it for a short time in the mid-90s. I developed the same symptoms and went off of it after discussing it with my doctor. I have a history of depression in the family. My maternal grandmother was bi-polar and my mom’s brother was diagnosed with depression several years ago. I have not medicated since, but thankfully I am able to keep things under control with prayer and a good husband who keeps an eye on me.


16 posted on 02/13/2013 12:06:41 PM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: al baby
Xanax is a god send for my panic attacks when i can get it prescribed

Does certain sounds and visual events trigger it but it really doesn't seem to be a fear as such but rather just iriates you? You want away from the noise? Loss of concentration is also common. I have upper torso spasms{seizures} from this. Certain sounds for example drive me nuts and trigger seizures if i don't get away from them. If so you are likely a Vestibular Patient and the Inner Ear is triggering the attacks. It does take a different medication approach than antidepressants and most doctors and especially Shrinks are clueless too it.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 12:12:44 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: al baby
Xanax in small doses works wonders. I take it occasionally for insomnia. It gets lumped in with antidepressants and SSRIs but it does not deserve the bad rep.

I can tell horror stories abot Ambien and hypnotics, though. Ugh.

18 posted on 02/13/2013 12:25:24 PM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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The secret to safe ongoing use of Xanax is in the dosage. It needs to be real low but for long term use low and consistent in the bloodstream. My doctor started me out on 2 MG twice a day. Half the time it worked then I was waiting out the other six hours it didn't. After a couple of years I found a doctor who knew what he was doing. He said no more antidepressants it doesn't work on what you have. He changed my dosage to .5 mg four times a day.

It doesn't always do the trick but allows me to function now at least at home. For example I'm fixing to go to The Cracker Barrel for supper. Between taking an extra pill before leaving and turning my hearing aids way down I can stand being there LOL.

19 posted on 02/13/2013 12:59:07 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Jyotishi
Prozac had a paradoxical effect upon me. It was like taking ten Viagras at once. Once I quit taking it, I went back to normal (?).
20 posted on 02/13/2013 2:27:30 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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