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To: discostu
But they already control the world, including this country, so that doesn’t make any sense.

That's what used to have me completely confused. If they "control everything" why don't they just do what they want ? "Control the world" is too generalized a statement to accurately describe the situation. They don't control what we wear every day, etc., nor do they control most things that happen. They only control a few key things that happen - because their personnel form the biggest group of experts in a few key places; at least diplomacy, banking, intelligence services, politics, education, the press, entertainment, health, food.

They do have key holdings amongst international banking firms across the world, as well as large corporations, and due to interlocking directorships (boards of directors are what has ultimate control over a coporation's actions), they wield tremendous influence over many corporations. They also use a network of non-profit tax-free foundations to a) control voting blocks of stock, b) avoid income taxes and c) avoid inheritence taxes, while d) allowing the same set of people, and their heirs and assigns and close associates, to have very tight voting control of the boards of directors of certain corporations.

They also, over a century or more, methodically sought influence of like-minded individuals and those who work for them in one capacity or another, in those "key places". They don't need every position, they start with key positions and work out from there. Most people don't even know what's going on, and there are multiple levels on which this game is played. Many leftists may not realize all of leftism's ties and backers, but those at the top do. For instance, Obama's early political ties were all to tied into one part of the international banker machine through Penny Pritzker. She is on the Board of Directors of CFR, the organization through which banking has managed the State Department and Presidents in one unbroken line all the way back to Wilson's time.

For international bankers, we have to understand that lending to governents is part of what they do; it's their business. It's like an equipment company selling a customer far more costly equipment than they need - the international banker wants "more business". If your a consultant, you want to see your clients in the most horrible mess possible, because then you can earn the most money helping them clean up the mess. Any problem can be turned around to be earnings if you're in the business of solving that problem. Now, the international bankers don't create all our problems, they specialize in just a few.

When one studies the great monopolists of America, one finds men that think they "know better", that they could run the entire nation far better than any government could. Trouble is, the public at large (and most military) would not take very well to the idea of simply setting aside our whole "government thingy" and little old Constitution, and all sign up for being part of some totalitarian business world. All these "nations" are in the way of their new world order, with the largest remaining impediment being an ever-dwindling percentage of the American population. But along the way, the international financiers can certainly continue to lie to a President here, bolster the confidence of a Prime Minister there, etc., etc., and voila ! War breaks out; ka-ching goes the register. They keep on making money in a "world" that we know nothing about.
97 posted on 01/31/2013 1:39:01 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Now you’re getting closer to reality. For the most part these “secret masters” are people that are in positions of power, but most of how they maintain the power is positioning themselves to benefit no matter what happens. They really don’t control everything, heck they probably don’t even control much. They’re big in banking so most money flow through them, but how much money flow through them, and where it starts and where it lands is a lot more random than the conspiracy crowd really wants to think. And like most megacorps they’re a couple of bad decisions from seeing it all unwind. For the most part this recession is the result of misplayed hands, all the big dogs lost money, nobody kills their own margin like that on purpose. Then you get situations like Egypt, 2 years later, still a mess, nobody’s making money there.


99 posted on 01/31/2013 1:53:16 PM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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