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Building Our Own Media
Sultan Knish ^ | 27 Jan 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 01/28/2013 4:43:46 AM PST by expat1000

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1 posted on 01/28/2013 4:43:51 AM PST by expat1000
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Been doing just that for the past 3 1/2 years. Every FReeper ought to be doing something similar - reporting on city councils, school boards, county commissions, etc.

All politics is local.

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2 posted on 01/28/2013 4:46:34 AM PST by abb
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3 posted on 01/28/2013 4:46:54 AM PST by expat1000
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From another thread...

“relentlessly expose, ridicule, deride, mock and publicly shame arrogant progressives in a manner that, for the first time in our adult lifetimes, communicates this one undeniable founding truth: America was never supposed to be this way.”

This past Christmas I spent time with my brother who introduced me to Jon Stewart. He has several choice Jon Stewart episodes recorded that he showed me.

This guy, Jon Stewart, is extremely talented at doing to conservatives precisely what the quoted paragraph above correctly opines we should be doing to “progressives”. He deftly and mercilessly roasts the conservative’s tactics in a way that is hilarious and totally believable to the less informed viewer. He is an extremely talented entertainer and comedian behaving as a news reporter and political commentator and is enormously engaging.

As I was watching him, I was thinking that “This guy is REALLY getting his leftist message across” and that we (conservatism) have nothing even close to this guy.

I don’t have a clue how conservatives could possibly counter the effectiveness of Jon Stewart’s spew, the truth is obviously not working, at least all by itself it isn’t.

If an extremely talented conservative counterpart were to emerge, he (or she) certainly wouldn’t be granted the venue that Stewart enjoys.

There are bound to be extremely witty conservative performers out there who could balance this guy and this genre to some degree, and surely there are producers that would see the profit in a conservative counterpoint? Maybe in India?


4 posted on 01/28/2013 4:53:01 AM PST by misanthrope ("...Everybody look what's goin' down.")
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To: misanthrope

“As I was watching him, I was thinking that “This guy is REALLY getting his leftist message across” and that we (conservatism) have nothing even close to this guy.”

South Park does and is funnier.


5 posted on 01/28/2013 5:13:30 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: expat1000

This guy is so brilliant!

The next several years will see some very interesting changes in communications. These changes will have an enormous effect on the way people get information.

I foresee the near total destruction of broadcast TV within 10 years.

Traditional cell and data providers are going to collapse when faced with free providers of the same services (supported by ad revenue) .. GOOGLE et al.... GOOGLE bought up all that dark fiber for a reason.

What we are approaching is a level playing field with the left when MSM collapses. They will attempt to limit the danger by passing laws allowing them to control the internet. Soon ALL content will be delivered as data on the net. No DVD or traditional book sales, no broadcast media, no newspapers, no radio as we know it today.

Unless the progressives (communists) gain total control of the net then anyone with talent and brains will wield the same power a major media outlet does today.

In the early 2020’s and perhaps even sooner the big thing will be augmented reality tech. It will take the form of a device worn like sunglasses and will be connected to the network for free (ad revenue) No tablets, no desktop PCs, no cellphones. Augmented reality devices are where the battle for the future will be waged....within 10 years my friend...we should prepare.

It will be incredibly important to maintain access to an uncensored network, encryption, anonymity and unencumbered use of 3D printing tech! These four things are what the progressives will be targeting. They are at least as important as the 2nd amendment right to arms. Our battle is to keep access to these four rights. The technology is accelerating at a exponential rate now and things will be very different in just a few short years.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 5:23:38 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: misanthrope

I think you make a good point. This will need to be organized outside of the U.S, not necessarily physically, but the perspective will need to come from outside. The other thing I notice the libs are REALLY good at it is, the Echo Chamber. They take two points from their leader and it’s as if they are passed out along the airwaves and those two points are echoed over and over ad nauseum. First off, conservatives need to counter the echo chamber as quickly as possible. It would help if there was a mole inside the Dem talking point circle (maybe James O’Keefe can help?). Not only counter the talking points, but push back with an even louder counterpoint and then have that echo across the conservo-sphere. Right now, it’s all about messaging and mainstream media controls the message with direction/permission from the WH. Citizen media can get around it, we just need to get clever.


7 posted on 01/28/2013 5:25:17 AM PST by austinaero
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There is some truth to this article and a whole lot of BS.

"A white elephant operation whose dwindling viewers are older and either share its biases or don't care".

So conservative principles are only interesting to older viewers whose market share is dwindling. Liberal meme understood...it's not true but it's interesting that it was included.

...and would mostly cover the same stories that are driven by that same network, but occasionally from a conservative angle. It would essentially be another FOX News.

I find it interesting that the most "conservative" (but not very conservative) news outlet crushes all others in the ratings when the author claims that it's only viewed by an older dwindling share of viewers. Huh...that's interesting. Interesting in that it makes no sense whatsoever.
Most media organizations would kill to have the viewers of FOX yet the author claims that any new media outlet would only "be like FOX". Ya...that sure would suck.

8 posted on 01/28/2013 5:25:57 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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9 posted on 01/28/2013 5:29:53 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Durus
Best put on your glasses and try again:

You could buy NBC News, but then what would you have? A white elephant operation whose dwindling viewers are older and either share its biases or don't care

10 posted on 01/28/2013 5:38:31 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000
Maybe you are missing the point here. The comment isn't about NBC news it's about what would happen if NBC were purchased by a conservative organization, which is the very premise of the article.

His claim is that (after a purchase) NBC would then be a media outlet that's value is far less then it's upkeep because it would only be viewed by a aging and dwindling demographic.

Do you think that the author is saying that NBC has an aging and dwindling viewership, and it's demographics would remain exactly the same after being purchased by a conservative group? That doesn't make any sense.

Is he suggesting that Conservatives are an aging and dwindling group? Perhaps not but it's a very popular liberal meme isn't it?

11 posted on 01/28/2013 6:19:23 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: expat1000

The real problem is that Congress funds hundreds of leftist groups with tax dollars. Planned Parenthood; ACORN; ACLU; etc.....

Stop feeding these Liberals with tax dollars. Make them live off the funding of the left.


12 posted on 01/28/2013 6:47:07 AM PST by CoastWatcher
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To: misanthrope

You have hit on an important but non-obvious element of communicating to the masses. Humor aimed at average Joe and Jane, infused with ridicule of leftists, can have a tremendous positive effect—changing how the average person views society and his or her fit in society. I believe there are very bright, conservative humorists out there who, if they were simply given a chance to be seen, would result in demand-pull from the people. Many Southpark episodes provide evidence of this possibility. Some of the radio parody songs are also evidence.

Remember, in the end, conservatism wins. You cannot escape physics and reality. There is a limit on how much oppression and taxation you can burden people with before their natural desire to be free overwhelms their ability to tolerate the oppression. There is a mathematical limit on how much tax you can extract from people’s labors. There are economic consequences to using social/political criteria for employing and educating people. These rules are not altered just because a liberal doesn’t like them. The numbers and laws of life will win and life has an unwaveringly conservative bias.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 6:52:26 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Durus

Another way to look at it is as what happens to a popular teen fad or slang expression when that fad filters down to fourth graders. It becomes instantly stigmatized and dropped from use. This is what would happen to now popular outlets if Conservatives bought them....they become ,”so yesterday” so to speak. This phenomenon is what must be overcome.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 6:59:35 AM PST by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: Durus
Unless someone in Congress has the balls to bring up Kenyan’s ineligibility and start investigation who installed him, we are sooo screwed already. Arapaio, Taitz, WND will be soon “Breibarted” and red hell will spread from America.
Other alternative is to buy Soros, but ...
15 posted on 01/28/2013 6:59:47 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepisssssed)
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To: expat1000

I can’t find fault with the line of thought, but I think you are missing a piece of the propaganda machine. Network programming is an integral part of it.

The average FReeper, I suspect, does not spend much time watching junk like “Glee”, “Modern Family”, and “The Today Show”, but there are millions of citizens who do. Through such programs, the left relentlessly promotes its ideology.


16 posted on 01/28/2013 7:03:53 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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First stop paying the media henchmen for Obama and stop promoting the progressives message with your money.

It’s time to cut your cable and satellite TV.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 7:13:07 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Anima Mundi
Society isn't like a high school popularity contest no matter what people want to think. FOX isn't cool. They are roundly mocked by all the "cool kids". They are also the most watched news channel by a huge margin. This points out a pretty big flaw to this theory don't you think?

18 posted on 01/28/2013 8:20:37 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Bigg Red

You are correct about the viewing. They may be older and dwindling, but they voted in November.


19 posted on 01/28/2013 8:31:32 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: expat1000

I find the article to be confusing because of the terminology, which is not very clear and not very accessible.

I don’t think there is any way of challenging the mainstream media as long as academia and schooling in general is so extremely leftist.

a recent reply to some post here on FR pointed out that Republicans/conservatives had a chance to elect conservative members of university boards in MN but ignored them, so these positions were all easily obtained by extreme leftists.

Perhaps there is where we should be lookng.


20 posted on 01/28/2013 8:37:34 AM PST by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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