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We wouldn’t have much of a construction industry, lies. there’d be no one to make our beds in hotels and clean our theme parks’ toilets. We wouldn’t have nannies to slave after our children, more lies,we wouldn’t have vegetables and fruit on our dinner tables because there’d be no one to pick them in the fields, more lies.We also would not have document fraud, hit and run drunk drivers, drug dealers from Mexico, human smugglers kidnapping ,beating, their catgo, demanding ransoms, child molestions would be down,our children safer, our roads safter with legal drivers who can read and write,less drivers driving without licenses and insurace, welfare,food stamps useage would be down, hospitals would not be out millions of dollars due to illegals refusing to pay their bills,etc,etc,etc..add your savings..
1 posted on 01/20/2013 3:34:14 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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"They both recognize that 11 million undocumented immigrants can’t be wished away. Nor will they self-deport"

Enforce the damn law and they will. I hate these pro-invader apologist NAZIS.

2 posted on 01/20/2013 3:39:36 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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“Self-Deport” is not a Stalinist phrase.

It was invented after pro-Amnesty commentators claimed it would be “impossible to deport 11 million illegals.”

The idea is simple, legal, and humane.

Require ALL employers to use E-Verify, and fine or sue employers who do not.

When illegal immigrants discover they can't find work, they will “self-deport” and return to their home country.

3 posted on 01/20/2013 3:43:19 PM PST by zeestephen
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Wow! It’s pretty incredible when you read an article and realize that not a single claim made in it is true!

There is an easy way to prove it. Vigorously enforce existing immigration law. I guarantee everything in this article would be proven false!


4 posted on 01/20/2013 3:46:04 PM PST by Castigar
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“Nor will they self-deport,”

Not as long as they can get jobs illegally, welfare, food stamps, free healthcare, and free government housing.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 3:46:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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“Nor will they self-deport,”

Not as long as they can get jobs illegally, welfare, food stamps, free healthcare, and free government housing.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 3:46:34 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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The real question is, why are they “illegal”? If these idiots really want them here, why don’t they advocate for a bigger quota and easier entrance, along with super strict border enforcement? And let’s do it the “right” way.

But you notice they don’t. Just lip service for the important border enforcement and excuses to let them come here and let them stay.

BTW, let’s put trailers and Sec. 8 type housing with 100% illegals in Pierre’s neighborhood. And then get his reaction afterwards.

You game, Pierre?


8 posted on 01/20/2013 3:46:50 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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WOW! You could hardly tell this writer leaned so far to the left that he has fallen over.

Excellent, tasteful piece outlining the superior thinking of those who hate America.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 3:48:01 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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[ They both recognize that 11 million undocumented immigrants can’t be wished away ]

Of COURSE they can be legislated away..
Make it illegal to hire them.. house them.. or feed them..
And face, finger, and foot print them to deny future immigrant status.. unless they leave without help..

You know ..... make it illegal to be here.. if your illegal..
Also laws to prosecute any legals willfully enabling them.. profiting from them or enslaving them..

Many maybe most will drift back across the border on their own.. not all but most.
Make it easier to do so...

At the same time make it unprofitable to be a gang member in big or small cities.. white, black or hispanic.. OR asian..

It would be EASY if there was a WILL to do it..


10 posted on 01/20/2013 3:49:48 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Reverence?

LMAO!


11 posted on 01/20/2013 3:54:22 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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The author of this article is full of it. While it’s true there’s lots of jobs Americans won’t do, it’s also true there’s lots of jobs illegals do that legal immigrants or guest workers from other countries will do. The idea that if illegal immigrants aren’t doing all those dirty jobs then nobody else will fill the void is ludicrous. A very large percentage of the jobs they do can be done by Americans, and the rest can be done by LEGAL!! workers from other countries.


12 posted on 01/20/2013 3:55:46 PM PST by driftless2
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Secure the border. Enforce the law. And the problem will resolve itself relatively humanely over the course of a very few years. People will self-deport as it becomes harder and harder to find work. Some few will manage to legalize themselves by one means or other. Others will bump into law enforcement and be deported directly.

The point is, though, that the problem is unsolveable as long as the border remains unsecured, and as long as the law is not actively enforced. And it is highly solveable once you take the problem seriously. Statistics show that, as the economy has stagnated, people have indeed deported themselves.

There will always be a few difficult cases but those will be a lot easier to deal with once the massive inflow has stopped.


15 posted on 01/20/2013 4:12:03 PM PST by marron
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High unemployment and they want to make them legal. Being legal means a legal wage, right?


16 posted on 01/20/2013 4:13:28 PM PST by Sybeck1
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Rubio has been adopted by the Bush family just like Bill Clinton. Not good for America.


17 posted on 01/20/2013 4:15:02 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Where did this bull s**t number of 11 million illegal aliens in the number come from?

The estimate is even less the “12 million illegal aliens in the US” head count has been the standard since the Clinton Administration since about 1996 and has been unchanged since that time despite and estimated 1-2 million illegals entering the US over the last 15 years since then.

It’s more like 12 million in 1996 plus another 20 - 30 million more since then for a total of 30-45 million illegals residing in the borders of the US.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 4:23:31 PM PST by rdcbn
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I find it kind of racist that people living in this country are willing to accept illegal immigration because they are too good to clean their own toilets.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 4:23:55 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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The idea that cheap labor is good for America should have been settled by the Civil War. If illegal aliens from Mexico walk on water as this idiot of a writer is intimating then why isn’t Mexico a paradise? I’ve said it before, I’ll keep on saying it: If the f’ing Mexican people gave HALF A CRAP about Mexico and put just HALF the f’ing energy into FIXING IT that they put into DESTROYING AMERICA then someday Mexico will be a F’ING PARADISE!!!!


20 posted on 01/20/2013 4:30:06 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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Dwight Eisenhower tried that in 1954 with Operation Wetback, when the casual bigotry of national policy had no problem advertising itself by name. The “Wetbacks” came back

He didn't "try", Ike SUCCEEDED in deporting 1.5 million illegals. And they did not "come back" until LBJ trashed the border patrol and immigration controls in the late 60s.

23 posted on 01/20/2013 4:58:20 PM PST by montag813
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that 11 million undocumented immigrants can’t be wished away

That's for sure! However they can be deported. They can be verified, hassled, expelled and arrested. They can be denied services, school enrollment and drivers licenses. It only takes the will to do so.

24 posted on 01/20/2013 5:02:37 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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I say make life as difficult for the ILLEGAL ALIENS as difficult as possible.

Eliminate ALL types of welfare unless all members in a house can prove they are Legal Immigrants or Citizens of the US.

Seize all vehicles from ILLEGAL ALIENS. Have them checked for any mechanical issue and if any are found, repair them at local High Schools or Vo-Tech Centers, if found to be unrepairable, scrap them for the good parts. Take the good running vehicles and use them a bonuses for those that repaired them or to people that work in the positions that supposedly American won't do. As a kid, if I found a job that would pay me minimum wage to pick vegetables for the summer and at the end of the summer I got a vehicle as a bonus, I would have done that work gladly.

Eliminate school programs that seem to me to encourage the problem. This would be things like English as a Second Language. My family immigrated from all over Europe though Ellis Island, well the ones the immigrated after it was built and the United States were formed, they all learned English as they knew they could not advance and most likely not survive if they did not. Eliminate instate tuition for ILLEAGL ALIENS, if a US Citizen has to pay a higher out-of-state tuition, then a ILLEGAL ALIEN should have to pay a minimum of 2.5 times the out-of-state tution rate.

Eliminate the automatic citizenship for infants born in this country from ILLEGAL ALIENS. There is a law that requires hospitals to provide service to anyone, so lets provide that service at the level that our U.S. Troops have had to endure. Set up a M.A.S.H. type hospital, with tents for the operating arena and the patient care/bedding area. Immediately deport both the child and mother back to the country of origin. If an ILLEGAL ALIEN gets on a waiting list for an organ transplant, put them at the bottom. If a US Citizen needs that same type of transplant, the US Citizens jumps over the ILLEGAL ALIEN.

Require tax payer information for all money transfers to high immigration countries that occur generally occur from the ATM type system's and also from unverifiable banking accounts. Have the transfer system automatically deduct All applicable taxes from the amount being transferred, this would include all type of Federal and State taxes. Since the yearly wage for the sender cannot be verified at the time of the transfer, deduct the taxes at the maximum rate that in in force. Issue a receipt with the Tax amounts detailed and clearly printed on it. At the end of the year when the required Tax returns are filed these receipts would be used to file the returns with along with any legitimate tax forms (W-2s, 1099s...). Audit all returns with duplicate information to determine if identity theft has occurred and if it has accept the return from the US citizen and send a audit notification to all others using the same information. If the return is deemed valid from the transfer receipts then issue a return for any amounts withdrawn that exceed the tax rates plus a 10% bonus, if the information is deemed invalid use the funds to further enhance the border and enforcement of immigration laws.

Sorry about the long rant, but this morning I was rear ended in my truck from a POS chevy car, which of the 3 people in it, none could speak English, the driver did not have insurance and the license plate on the CAR was from a FARM TRUCK. The officer that showed up stated it was too difficult to try to prosecute them, so he just let them go. Luckily for me the car took way more damage than my truck did.

25 posted on 01/20/2013 5:23:57 PM PST by SledgeCS (Democrat/Liberal/Progressive/Socialist = Gun Control Nazi)
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“Nor will they self-deport”

Baloney.

There are a number of states, especially in the South and Southwest, that have seen huge numbers of them self-deport.


27 posted on 01/20/2013 5:30:04 PM PST by webstersII
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