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How Can the Gospel Be Good News to Gays?
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 1-10-13 | Sam Allberry

Posted on 01/11/2013 11:03:06 AM PST by ReformationFan

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To: ReformationFan

The author’s homosexual friend probably called his 15-year relationship “committed,” when in truth, it was probably rife with dozens of anonymous side “johns” he met at bars, rest stops, and Crate and Barrel.

The author should have gently explored in this direction.


41 posted on 01/11/2013 1:38:41 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Talisker

Right on!! So when homosexuality is pushed on us, let’s keep quiet lest we be called hypocrites or drive people away!!

Homosexuality is a higher degree of grievous sin :

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV) “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Since you seem to be lecturing us on driving people away should the church stay quiet? That didn’t help in the 60’s and 70’ did it?

Remember now it is the homosexual agenda that is being pushed onto us? Is your solution to not push back? But that would kind of defeat the purpose now wouldn’t it? Don’t speak out against it because then people will be against Christ and people will be mad at us and vote Democrat, but then being homosexual is against Christ is it not?

No thank you I’ll reject your interpretations and keep up the good fight and not stay quiet and not accept homosexuality :

Matthew 10:22 (KJV) :

“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”


42 posted on 01/11/2013 2:01:50 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Talisker

Right on!! So when homosexuality is pushed on us, let’s keep quiet lest we be called hypocrites or drive people away!!

Homosexuality is a higher degree of grievous sin :

Leviticus 18:22 (KJV) “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

Since you seem to be lecturing us on driving people away should the church stay quiet? That didn’t help in the 60’s and 70’ did it?

Remember now it is the homosexual agenda that is being pushed onto us? Is your solution to not push back? But that would kind of defeat the purpose now wouldn’t it? Don’t speak out against it because then people will be against Christ and people will be mad at us and vote Democrat, but then being homosexual is against Christ is it not?

No thank you I’ll reject your interpretations and keep up the good fight and not stay quiet and not accept homosexuality :

Matthew 10:22 (KJV) :

“And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”


43 posted on 01/11/2013 2:02:23 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: CARTOUCHE

Wow. Your post certainly attracted the Viking Kitties. Did you mean to do that?

“...or do we ignore and do no harm?”

May I remind you that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke.

Ignore and do no harm? No sir. I - for one - will NOT ignore the harm that gays do.


44 posted on 01/11/2013 2:05:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Talisker

“When you damn people in Jesus’ name who Jesus did NOT damn, they turn against you.”

Did you even read the article? The entire point was to treat those struggling with this and all sin that it’s not easy and that all Christians should be supportive in helping those struggling with all sin.

Or did you just see another opportunity to criticize evangelicals under the guise of being the good Christian?


45 posted on 01/11/2013 2:08:05 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: Talisker

“Did it EVER occur to you that the reason the Left might have so much power in this country is BECAUSE the hypocrisy of Christians have driven them AWAY from the teachings of Jesus that WOULD have reined in their madness and hatred?”

Or did it ever occur to you that the reason the Left has so much power is because Satan is the ruler of the world and tries to influence everyone as much as possible?

2 Corinthians 4:4 (NIV) :

“The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.”


46 posted on 01/11/2013 2:16:17 PM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: ReformationFan
I've read the many replies to this article/post. Some are good, some are very good, some are downright inhospitable, some are "just so wrong."

I will say only this:

1st Corinthians 3:1-8, "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

And this:

John 12:32, "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

All we can do is present the Gospel to the homosexual community, the correct, pure and unblemished truth of God's Word. It is the job of the Holy Ghost to draw them to Jesus.

And please, don't call them gay. "Gay" was once a good term used to denote someone as being happy. Homosexuals are not "happy," homosexuality is a perverse lifestyle, one condemned by the Word of God.

That's my two cents worth. Like it or not, deal with it.

47 posted on 01/11/2013 2:44:53 PM PST by ducttape45 (Can you tell I'm angry?)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Concentrate on defeating the real enemies of freedom. BHO for starters.

There is a reason that the homosexual sex practitioners are a community organized group of useful idiots supporting BHO and it has nothing to do with individual freedom or conservatism.

Get a clue -the promotion of homosexual sex normalcy; the homosexual agenda, is an enemy of freedom.

Though you may suggest to politely impose acceptance of homosexual sex as normal among conservatives while the left imposes it by force of government; there is no difference.

Only leftists think they can create a heaven on earth and in doing so create a hell.

48 posted on 01/11/2013 3:05:58 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: CARTOUCHE
There are many of us that worship Jesus Christ and yet ignore the rest of y’all that seem to want to send our gay s to the gas chamber.

Worship of Jesus and defense of sin are contradictory in nature - and homosexual relations are sin (http://www.peacebyjesus.net/homosex_versus_the_bible.pdf) - and liberty without limits is anarchy.

That said, all have sinned, and all do, and compassion is to be shown to the penitent, and love toward even enemies, and there is room at the cross for all who are of a contrite heart and will come to the risen Lord Jesus for salvation by His sinless shed blood.

49 posted on 01/11/2013 3:26:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: DBeers

Indeed. While I’ll concede that many individual homosexual persons may very well be free-market capitalists who only wish to be left alone by the government, the homosexualist collective movement that blindly worships Obama and the Democrats most certainly does not hold to that view. Check out-

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


50 posted on 01/11/2013 4:40:14 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Ramonne

Thanks. I’m not the author of the article. I just posted it because I found it interesting and thought others would too.

However, I do believe only the Holy Spirit can regenerate the heart of one spiritually dead per Ephesians 2:1-10

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:1-10&version=ESVUK

“And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness towards us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”


51 posted on 01/11/2013 4:58:25 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ctpsb

Here’s another helpful one from Christ Himself.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:17-19&version=ESV

Christ Came to Fulfill the Law

17 ‘“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.’


52 posted on 01/12/2013 10:07:24 AM PST by ReformationFan
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