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California Law Enforcement Is Losing Fight Against Mexican Drug Cartels
Friends of Ours ^ | 01/01/13 | Friends of Ours

Posted on 01/01/2013 5:25:39 AM PST by AtlasStalled

California has indeed become The Golden State for Mexican drug cartels which have solidified their hold over the narco trade by eliminating the middle man to deal directly with street gangs in the distribution chain as reported by Adam Housley for Fox News. Of course, it's hard to place the full blame on law enforcement for failing to push back the drug cartels. After all, the border remains unsecure, many cities provide sanctuary to illegal immigrants among whom the narco traffickers hide, the entertainment industry glorifies drug culture and the criminal underworld, and so-called medical marijuana makes a mockery of the drug laws. Snide memo to California citizens: you own the drug cartels. Good luck.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: california; drugcartels; mexico; narcowars

1 posted on 01/01/2013 5:25:44 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

Illegal-alien-drug-lords PING


2 posted on 01/01/2013 5:30:36 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: AtlasStalled

the way Odungo wants it......


3 posted on 01/01/2013 5:35:16 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Tennessee Nana
The only way to get rid of the cartels is to bankrupt them by repealing prohibition on marijuana, which is the drug primarily used to finance the day to day operations of these cartels.
I don't see any moon shiners sneaking over from Mexico to tell Tequila.
But we would lose an entire infrastructure of law enforcement jobs and a winning pretext for the creation of a police state so that idea is a non starter.
Happy new year!
4 posted on 01/01/2013 5:35:56 AM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: AtlasStalled

When the Mayor of Los Angeles is one of their own, how can they lose?


5 posted on 01/01/2013 5:39:25 AM PST by Regulator
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To: AtlasStalled
Another idiot prohibitionist weighs in.

Blast that pesky Tenth Amendment, right?

6 posted on 01/01/2013 5:40:58 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Clump

“The only way to get rid of the cartels is to bankrupt them by repealing prohibition on marijuana, which is the drug primarily used to finance the day to day operations of these cartels.”

What? Are you insane? Why we’re only one more dead Labrador, one more splintered door, one more SWAT wet-dream away from winning the “war”.


7 posted on 01/01/2013 5:48:56 AM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Clump

The only way to get rid of the cartels is to bankrupt them by repealing prohibition on marijuana.
Now that sounds like stoner logic,what about ALL the other drugs they sell will the just go away?


8 posted on 01/01/2013 6:08:24 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Clump
Door to door; ground to air ~ those expressions can have meaning in disposing of users, abusers, sellers, dealers ~ their heirs and assigns!

It's a matter of political will and we don't see any in California.

In the coming months we will be helping more Californians relocate to Virginia as they flee the coming storm.

9 posted on 01/01/2013 6:17:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Institute Singapore-style drug laws. Anything less shows our unwillingness to stop the drug trade.


10 posted on 01/01/2013 6:21:36 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: AtlasStalled

Viva Capitalism!


11 posted on 01/01/2013 6:25:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: AtlasStalled

Because they can’t arrest drug dealers if they are illegal aliens.


12 posted on 01/01/2013 6:48:41 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: AtlasStalled

Because they can’t arrest drug dealers if they are illegal aliens.


13 posted on 01/01/2013 6:48:51 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Cant they just shoot them?? Why wait for the justice system that would only free them and clear them of the charges.


14 posted on 01/01/2013 6:58:28 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Vaduz

Look, my point is that the sale of marijuana is the bread and butter of the drug trade. Cartels use the annual multi billion dollar marijuana market to fund its other activities.
I’m not saying all problems in the world will disappear by repealing prohibition.
Prohibition very predictably creates two things; 1. a government market and 2. a black market.
The problems that face our nation cannot and should not be solved by militarizing local police and continuing to spend billions pissing into the wind.
Believe it or not the US existed and did fine before prohibition.
The government learned from its experience with trying to prohibit alcohol what a wealth of opportunity there was to expand its own power by banning and regulating substances and inanimate objects.
It’s not like the founding fathers dropped the ball by not banning and regulating these things right away.
They didn’t see the role of the government to solve every problem or ill in society.
And it’s not “stoner logic” to question the wisdom of a seemingly never ending “war” that (as far as I can tell) has only resulted in a massively oversized government and an infrastructure that can quickly be used to impose grave tyranny.
I’m open to other options. And just FYI I’m married to a woman, have my own law business, and we have three children together.
Neither one of us use drugs or hang out with druggies.
I am also a former prosecutor and I can tell you that most people in the “justice system” will admit behind closed doors that the “war” is a sick joke and exists solely because of the livelihoods that depend on its continuation.


15 posted on 01/01/2013 7:01:16 AM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Clump

What you said.

I’ll add that, unfortunately, even if the prohibition is lifted, many of the societal malfunctions developed in its name will live on. Three that come to mind are excessive police militarization, the TV glorification and frequent use of no-knock searches, and civil forfeiture, where the government grabs assets under the presumption they were involved in a crime and forces the “grab-ee” to sue in order to get them returned. Cash in your car? It must have been used in the drug trade. It’s ours now, sue us.


16 posted on 01/01/2013 7:09:23 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: AtlasStalled

Losing? They lost years ago.


17 posted on 01/01/2013 7:50:20 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: AtlasStalled
Can't prove it but empirical evidence indicates our government is in bed with the narco trade. Else we would have eliminated it long ago. Further I suggest that street gangs could be considered leftist militia. Since they routinely kill and are clearly a seditious presence, taking areas of America as their own, why does the government allow them such free reign? Because at some level the government wants them to exist. Mark my words, the gangs will be the governments street soldiers when the SHTF.
18 posted on 01/01/2013 7:52:20 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: AtlasStalled

Marijuana serves the same purpose in our nation that the circus played in Rome. It is a distraction. Legal or illegal, it is a distraction. A republic REQUIRES an involved citizenry. Pot is used to keep the citizens uninvolved in what happens politically in our country. And spare me the sophistry of saying alcohol is the same. I already know that. That is such an intellectually lazy argument that it should be embarrassing to those who use it. We sit here on Free Republic and wonder why the Democrats win. Blow a little weed, and the answer will come to you.


19 posted on 01/01/2013 8:39:44 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: AtlasStalled

“California Law Enforcement Is Losing Fight Against Mexican Drug Cartels”

It’s California...

Really... does it matter anymore what happens there?


20 posted on 01/01/2013 9:06:49 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: muawiyah
Door to door; ground to air ~ those expressions can have meaning in disposing of users, abusers, sellers, dealers ~ their heirs and assigns! It's a matter of political will and we don't see any in California.

True - the problem is that one can picture it happening to actual citizens who own guns and there will be no shortage of political will.

21 posted on 01/01/2013 10:22:00 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Road Glide
Really... does it matter anymore what happens there?

Ever hear of the Domino Theory? I will assume you do not live anywhere near California.

22 posted on 01/01/2013 11:55:54 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Clump

Druggies are the problem so why help them to get drugs of any kind?.
Being passive cures nothing.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 3:10:09 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz; Clump
Druggies are the problem

Really? A bigger problem than the billions of dollars being put in the hands of cartels by the War On Drugs?

Being passive cures nothing.

Ending the War On Drugs cures the problems caused or aggravated by the War On Drugs.

24 posted on 01/02/2013 11:07:40 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Clump
The only way to get rid of the cartels is to bankrupt them by repealing prohibition on marijuana, which is the drug primarily used to finance the day to day operations of these cartels.

Luckily, cocaine, heroin, and methamphetamines are utterly unprofitable, and the cartels studiously avoid dabbling in such things, so your plan is FLAWLESS.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 11:16:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Reality check: Being passive cures nothing.


26 posted on 01/04/2013 6:07:30 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: AtlasStalled

IOW, Northern Mexico. I am glad I escaped.


27 posted on 01/04/2013 6:09:15 AM PST by lodi90
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To: blueunicorn6

Great post.


28 posted on 01/04/2013 6:16:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (I took extra credit at the School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Lazamataz

Legalize all those, too. Hell, sell the crap in 5 pound sacks at Safeway to anyone who is over 21. My only caveat is that “society” doesn’t pay a nickel to clean up after you. The only possible exception is to toss your corpse into a garbage truck.

In the ER due to a drug overdose? You pay cash or they toss you out into the street for said garbage collection.

I am sick and tired of paying to babysit idiots. If they want to poison themselves, fine. But they do it on their own dime.


29 posted on 01/04/2013 6:24:50 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Vaduz
Druggies are the problem

Really? A bigger problem than the billions of dollars being put in the hands of cartels by the War On Drugs?

Being passive cures nothing.

Ending the War On Drugs cures the problems caused or aggravated by the War On Drugs.

Reality check: Being passive cures nothing.

Reality check: Repeating your rebutted arguments doesn't un-rebut them. (And the War On Drugs has manifestly failed to cure the problem of druggies.)

30 posted on 01/04/2013 7:54:23 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: blueunicorn6
Pot is used to keep the citizens uninvolved in what happens politically in our country. And spare me the sophistry of saying alcohol is the same. I already know that.

So what should we do about alcohol being used to keep the citizens uninvolved in what happens politically in our country? (Note that criminalizing other 'de-involving' drugs does nothing about alcohol being used to keep the citizens uninvolved in what happens politically in our country.)

31 posted on 01/04/2013 7:57:18 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

War On Drugs has manifestly failed

Where?


32 posted on 01/05/2013 5:32:00 AM PST by Vaduz
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