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http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com ^ | 12-27-2012 | butterdezillion

Posted on 12/27/2012 12:52:06 PM PST by butterdezillion

My DEAR READERS:

It’s crunch time. My apologies to those who have tried to contact me; my computer died and I had no email access for several weeks. I’ve also been incredibly busy, part of which I will now describe:

After contacting my state AG, county attorney, and others, I realized I needed to file a criminal report in the city in which the crime was committed: Bob Bauer’s crimes of 1) of suborning perjury by advising Germond and Villaigarosa to sign an Official Certification of Nomination that Bauer KNEW had legally been disclosed as fraudulent, and 2) fraud when Bauer submitted that fraudulent, perjurious OCON to (almost) every state SOS in order to get Obama placed on the ballot. For me to fail to report these crimes would be misprision of those crimes.

With much computer trouble, I finally typed out an affidavit to submit to law enforcement, which I did on Tuesday, Dec 18th, at the Lincoln, NE Police Department. Officer Flood had seen Arpaio’s press conference and had found the evidence compelling, and was wondering why nobody was pursuing this. He gave me a case number and said he was sure he would be told not to investigate the case because it is out of his league. But he reassured me that he would refer it to the state Attorney General – whose office had (falsely, according to Flood) told me that they can’t accept referrals from the general public.

I published the affidavit here with a password required, so that I could allow the members of Congress and others (such as Larry Klayman) to easily see the evidence as well as the notary’s seal next to my signature. I didn’t want the general public to see the affidavit because all the names and contact info was intact. When I realized that others would see that I had posted something I removed the link from public view.

I may soon provide public access to a redacted version, though I first need to check on the legality and wisdom of doing so, given my sources and the circumstances. I’m not a lawyer; I’m blundering my way through. We have a very small window of time in which to act, and all I know is that I have to do whatever I can within that window of time, because after that it will be too late. If Obama is inaugurated on Jan 20th, it will be the equivalent of the Enabling Act of 1933 – after which any peaceful resistance to Hitler’s agenda was made criminal. By regulatory fiat, resistance to Obama can make someone a “belligerent”, vulnerable to open-ended detainment without charges and no recourse for justice. Part of the “more flexibility” Obama promised Medvedev is the ability to detain people without fear of the public being able to boot him out of office in an election.

What stands in his way right now are Congress and an armed citizenry. If Congress fails to stop him, America as we have known her will be over, and confiscation of guns will be next – the last obstacle to the final, open coup against the America of the Founders. We can all see how this is shaping up. The time to fight is now, through legal means while we still have them.

I bought a fax machine and faxed a letter to all Republican members of Congress. I wanted to send to them all but had neither the time nor the money to do so. I just posted a redacted version of the letter I faxed (at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2012/12/27/letter-faxed-to-every-republican-member-of-congress/ ). I have the transmission logs to prove that I sent to them. I can prove that all but a handful (whose fax machines were busy) of the Republican Congress members have been notified that every electoral vote for Obama is LEGALLY KNOWN to have been acquired through fraud, and that Obama CANNOT “qualify” by Jan 20th as required by the 20th Amendment, unless he is challenged in court, his legally-nonvalid BC presented as evidence, and its probative value determined so his birth facts can also be legally determined. They all know what they have to do if the rule of law means anything.

And now is the crunch time. This is when we find out whether we have any rule of law left in this country, or whether our Congress has become the German Parliament of the Third Reich which willingly gave all power to Adolf Hitler because they couldn’t see how piddly “politics” is compared to Hitler’s agenda. I will remind you all that Larry Grathwohl listened to Obama’s friends from Columbia University talk about the logistics of exterminating 25 million people they expected to resist “re-education”. Hitler has nothing on these guys, and if we or Congress ignore that fact we deserve everything we will most certainly get.

I need your help. I need you to call or visit your Representative and Senators and tell them they HAVE to look at the letter I sent and the affidavit I signed. And they need to contest every fraudulently-obtained electoral vote – which is ALL of them. Furthermore, they need to do what is LEGALLY required in order to determine Obama’s eligibility. Congress can’t do it; Hawaii statute says probative value is determined when the nonvalid birth certificate is presented as evidence to a JUDICIAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON OR BODY – NOT legislative. There is no way Congress can lawfully certify any of these electoral votes without a legal, court trial. The challenge of the electoral vote has to result in a legal challenge so Hawaii law can be fulfilled. Even if Congress UNLAWFULLY certifies the electoral vote, ANY ONE MEMBER OF CONGRESS can file a lawsuit with standing so that the BC and all the evidence related to its genuineness (microfilms, computer transaction logs, passport records, etc) can be examined according to the Federal Rules of Evidence and birth facts determined.

I also need your help to try to find who within Congress has the integrity and courage to be that one person, so I can address their concerns and questions personally.

I also need to know if there is anybody within the other states who would be willing to file a criminal complaint in the Police Department in your state capital. For the police to take it seriously somebody has to file the complaint in person, and I can’t afford to fly to every state capital and file a complaint. I can provide a signed affidavit that can be given to the police departments as evidence once there is a case filed, but I need somebody who can be there personally to report the crime to create a case file. The police will conduct a background check on whoever reports a crime, and the Lincoln Police Dept has conducted a background check on me.

This is where the rubber hits the road, guys. If you can help, please post to tell me what you can do and we can make arrangements using whatever email address you give me to use. If you create a free hushmail account at http://www.hushmail.com I can send encrypted email to you. I will keep all posts unpublished unless you specifically say you want it published.

God bless the USA!

Nellie


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You guys can Freepmail me rather than post on the blog if you prefer; if you don't hear back from me within a day assume that I did NOT get the Freepmail. Time is very, very short.

Thanks!

1 posted on 12/27/2012 12:52:14 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: null and void; LucyT; rolling_stone; bitt; little jeremiah; Nachum

With the computer troubles I’m having troubles finding my ping list. Can you guys help get the word out about this? I’m headed out the door but will be back soon and I’ll look some more when I get back.


2 posted on 12/27/2012 1:00:22 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

3 posted on 12/27/2012 1:02:59 PM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: null and void

Thanks. I looked the last place it could have been, and the hard drive that had crashed and was having its content retrieved totally bit the dust right before the ping list was retrieved. So it’s lost.

I was trying to post this from a different computer, and Google Chrome crashed 3 times within 2 minutes. I’d had 3 pages open and the FR page was the only one that was unresponsive. I’ve never had Google Chrome crash before.

Typical stuff. It’s a shame I’ve not suffered any particular harm from these crooks usurping the Presidency...


4 posted on 12/27/2012 1:31:32 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If I write to my Congressman and my Senator, what document shall I reference that I want them to read? I’m sure that I cannot say “recent letter from butterdezillion”. Does this document, or letter, have a title and a signature? (Please respond ia FReep Mail, if you desire.)


5 posted on 12/27/2012 1:52:48 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; butterdezillion

Same question here regarding your letter; to whom do I refer when pestering my Congressperson(s)?

Send by FRmail :)


6 posted on 12/27/2012 2:15:30 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: butterdezillion

So nobody has to go to the blog, here is the (redacted) letter I faxed to the Republican members of Congress:

CRITICALLY & LEGALLY URGENT FOR EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS:

Hawaii state registrar Alvin Onaka has publicly certified to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Barack Obama’s HI birth certificate is legally non-valid and the White House image is a forgery. He also confirmed to KS SOS Kris Kobach that the information contained in the White House image is NOT “identical to” that in the official record.

Many of you have replied to concerned constituents that the matter is settled by the public statements of Hawaii officials, the HDOH birth index list, the newspaper birth announcements, and Obama’s posted short-form and long-form birth certificates. Onaka’s disclosure – the only one made by a HI official under oath –negates all that and fits the vast legal and forensic evidence collected so far, some of which is in my affidavit (privately posted at for NE criminal case #B2-119. Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Commander, Mike Zullo (both of whom initially disbelieved the skeptics) have both signed affidavits saying there is legal-quality FORENSIC evidence that Obama’s long-form birth certificate and draft registration are forged. Onaka has now revealed the REASON for the forgery: to hide the non-validity of the birth record. Evidence in my affidavit proves (among other things) that the 1960-64 birth index includes non-valid records.

Onaka’s disclosure is proof of results-altering election fraud in every state in this country, since fraudulent filing documents were used to place Obama on every state’s ballot. Absent a non-Hawaii birth record, Obama doesn’t even have a legally-determined birth date, place, or parents so nobody can lawfully say he meets the age or citizenship requirements to be President – and yet every Certification of Nomination falsely swears that he is eligible. EVERY electoral vote for Obama is thus now LEGALLY KNOWN to be fraudulently-obtained and must not be certified as lawful on Jan 8th. As with the Sandusky case, those with knowledge have legal responsibility to act, and that is now you.

Even if the majority in Congress wrongly certifies the electoral vote, that only makes Obama the President-elect. The 20th Amendment says that if the President-elect fails to qualify by Jan 20th, the Vice-President-elect must “act as President”. Without any legally-determined birth date, birth place, or birth parents, there is no way that Barack Obama could have qualified by Jan 20, 2009 – or can qualify by Jan 20, 2013, unless his birth facts ARE legally determined. The biggest favor any one of you can do for this whole process (and for Obama himself if he is to become President LAWFULLY) is to file a lawsuit (with standing) challenging Obama’s eligibility so that the records will be presented as evidence to a JUDICIAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE person or body (not legislative, according to Hawaii statute 338-17, so Congress is powerless on this issue) and birth facts determined. That’s the only way Obama can “qualify” by Jan 20, 2013.

Our President has committed perjury 6 times by swearing (in AZ, NC, and WV) that he is eligible, knowing that he has no valid HI birth certificate (and claiming a Kenyan birth in his bio until 2007), and let his spokesmen pass off two forgeries as genuine on his behalf. He knowingly allowed a decorated military surgeon to lose his life’s savings and retirement and spend 6 months in prison for simply wanting to know if his combat orders were lawful, or whether they Constitutionally had to come from Joe Biden instead – who OPPOSED the “surge”.

It appears that many felonies have been committed. An impeachment must precede a criminal investigation and trial, so failure to impeach is obstruction of equal protection & the rule of law – without which, none of your life’s work even matters because the laws you make will only be enforced when politically expedient to the powerful. A banana republic. DON’T LET THAT HAPPEN IN THE AMERICA YOU HAND YOUR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, OR FRIENDS. Instead, keep your oath and love your families. Truth matters. Please reply to tell me what you will do to defend truth, the rule of law, and the Constitution you swore to defend.

Sincerely, Nellie (contact info redacted)


7 posted on 12/27/2012 2:17:32 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: afraidfortherepublic; WildHighlander57

You can say it was a letter from Nellie Ristvedt, faxed to them on Dec 20th or 21st.


8 posted on 12/27/2012 2:21:46 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
butterdezillion's Letter Faxed to Every Republican Member of Congress

From the letter: "Absent a non-Hawaii birth record, Obama doesn’t even have a legally-determined birth date, place, or parents so nobody can lawfully say he meets the age or citizenship requirements to be President – and yet every Certification of Nomination falsely swears that he is eligible. EVERY electoral vote for Obama is thus now LEGALLY KNOWN to be fraudulently-obtained and must not be certified as lawful on Jan 8th."

9 posted on 12/27/2012 2:51:30 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: IbJensen; garyb; Mr. K; Thorliveshere; copaliscrossing; plain talk; TigerClaws; ...

Ping


10 posted on 12/27/2012 3:26:12 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: butterdezillion
Your resilience, is honorable, as a former Nebraskan, now Texan, I am at my wits end. We seem to be against forces larger than reason, unexplained and unaccounted for, the events happening in our country, show signs of being, akin to Schopenhauer’s “blind will”. Although moving along in an unsettling parallel to that of Christian prophecy. It would not be surprising if a civil war breaks out. In the meantime, we need to fight any attempt to subvert our constitution. Any suggestions?
11 posted on 12/27/2012 6:47:00 PM PST by notted
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To: butterdezillion

Reference ping


12 posted on 12/27/2012 7:02:05 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: butterdezillion; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; ...

PING!


13 posted on 12/27/2012 8:58:00 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: butterdezillion; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; ...

PING!


14 posted on 12/27/2012 8:58:25 PM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: butterdezillion

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!

I’ll be sure to write my Congresscritter even more now. He’s going to get tired of hearing from me.


15 posted on 12/27/2012 9:01:59 PM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: butterdezillion

Butter - please excuse my braindeadness (rapidly getting sick tonight). Am I correct in that only Republican Senators and Congressmen are worth contacting?

Unfortunately only one member of Congress and no Senators from my state are Rs.


16 posted on 12/27/2012 9:10:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I believe it would be worth contacting the D’s too - if for no other reason than to hold them accountable for acting on what they knew. I was just trying to prioritize the funds I had available. If somebody has a D who they think might be willing to stand for the rule of law and who they would like to work with I could fax that D the letter so they can see the affidavit and we can dialog with them.

I’ve actually thought I should probably do that with Ben Nelson. Until the Nebraska Kickback he was halfway decent in his votes. Since he’s leaving he might be willing to go for broke. Can’t hurt to try anyway...

Freepmail me if you think any of the D’s that represent your state would be a good investment of a fax, and I can do that - and give you what you need so you can contact them as follow-up, and also let others know that person can/should be contacted as well.


17 posted on 12/27/2012 9:28:31 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 12/27/2012 9:34:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Art in Idaho; butterdezillion; Puzo1

“must not be certified as lawful on Jan 8th”

OK, this is getting confusing.

The National Archives is saying the votes will be counted on January 6th.

Mario Apuzzo says that since that is a Sunday, the Congress voted to change it to January 4th. But I cannot find any confirmation of that.

I have seen references to the votes being counted on January 7th.

And Butterdezillion is saying it will occur on the 8th.

Can anyone post a link to the actual date?


19 posted on 12/27/2012 9:43:43 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: butterdezillion

Thank you, butter. I will look into them. AFAIK the Dem ones are all what you would expect.... Unfortunately. I’ll work on it tomorrow.

THANK YOU for your heroic efforts.


20 posted on 12/27/2012 9:47:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 4Zoltan; Art in Idaho; butterdezillion; Puzo1

BTW, to change the date from the official date of January 6th, it would take an act of Congress.


21 posted on 12/27/2012 9:48:43 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: notted

What’s happening matches Scripture so closely it’s almost breathtaking. If it keeps going at this pace, economic collapse (the fall of Babylon) and sharia (the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell) will be next, and the persecutions now happening all over the Middle East and Africa will come here as well.

A couple summers ago I watched “Left Behind” for the first time. I wasn’t much in tune with the end-time prophecies before that. Even now, I pretty much have a general picture rather than a lot of specifics. The part in that movie that seemed incredible was how Nikolai Carpathia shot the two investors at the UN Building and everybody came out of there saying how “tragic” it was that the guy had committed suicide. They couldn’t see what was right in front of their faces.

At that time I remembered that this was how Yuri Bezmenov had described a demoralized people - as being incapable of seeing what was in front of their own eyes.

Everything I’ve seen in the last 3 years suggests that America is there. There are none so blind as they who will not see, and there is a great darkness now, where people just don’t want to see. Some people think it is futile to resist so they’re better off not knowing.

I don’t know what time it is - whether a minute until midnight or just mid-day. But it does feel like the night is closing in on America, with hearts and minds dark and dead to reality.

I think there are 2 things we can do:

First is pray, with all our hearts, that God would spare this country from our own blindness and hardness of hearts, and raise up leaders who will do what is right. As you hinted, our battle is not against flesh and blood but against the spiritual powers of darkness and deception. We can’t win this through merely human means. This is literally a battle against Hell itself, and ultimately it is only the One who has defeated Hell who can overcome the enemy this time.

Second is to inform as many people as we can of what is really going on. People say that Obama can’t be ineligible because it would require such a huge conspiracy to cover for him. But now Onaka has revealed that Obama’s birth facts can’t be verified. IOW, he has confirmed that whatever conspiracy this cover-up required.... has already happened and continues to happen. When people realize how many people have lied to them and broken laws in order to deceive us all - and when they consider what would be worth the risk of ever being found out.... they will realize that 2008 really and truly was a coup. Who was behind that coup? Well... that’s something they better find out, and seeing that all our allies in the war on terror have been stiffed, alienated, deposed, or killed with US approval... and the Islamists have all been appeased, armed, or installed with US approval.... I think that tells thinking people all they really need to know. When the political winds shift in an ugly direction, Obama will always stand with the Muslims - according to what he said in his own book.

If people have all this pointed out to them and still can’t see it, then I think their hearts may be hardened beyond repair. If too many are like that, this country has no hope except through divine intervention, and our consolation if the Lord doesn’t intervene to save the country is that He is still with His people even when things get REALLY BAD, as they are sure to do when the Islamists take over.


22 posted on 12/27/2012 9:58:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: rfreedom4u

Then Jesus told His disciples a parablet o show them that they should always pray and not give up. He said:

“In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men. And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’

“For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care about men, yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually wear me out with her coming!’

And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. And will not God bring about justice for His chosen ones, who cry out to Him day and night? Will He keep putting them off? I tell you, He will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:1-8)

AZ SOS Ken Bennett asked Hawaii for a verification because the good people of Arizona were like that persistent widow. They were not going to take NO for an answer. Bennett wasn’t going to take NO for an answer from Hawaii, because he knew that until he satisfied these persistent people he was going to get no rest. And as a result we now have legal confirmation that Obama has no legally-established birth facts. That’s the crack in the legal “ice” that can set loose the whole wild river (using the Narnia theme) and wash away the filth of Saruman (using the Lord of the Rings theme).

When the people of America become like those patriots in Arizona we will see real things happen - even from people who neither fear God nor care about men, which appears to be the entire Congress at this point. The greatest obstacle we face is giving in to the enemy through apathy or despair.

Let your Congress-critter get tired of hearing from you. It may be the only thing that gets him/her to do the right thing, if he/she neither fears God nor cares about people.


23 posted on 12/27/2012 10:14:08 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: 4Zoltan; Art in Idaho; butterdezillion; Puzo1

Mr. Apuzzo was correct the vote was moved to January 4th.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:3:./temp/~c112bpWJrL::


24 posted on 12/27/2012 10:17:20 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Thanks for the information.


25 posted on 12/27/2012 10:24:01 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

bttt


26 posted on 12/27/2012 11:05:33 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: bitt
I live in the heart of Philadelphia, where only representatives and senators become such if they are proven die hard Socialist Democrats.


27 posted on 12/28/2012 2:57:32 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

If you’d like I could fax them the letter and you could remind them that what happened to the people who knowingly covered for Sandusky will be piddles next to what will happen to them if they cover for the coup that happened in 2008 and again in 2012 - either in this life or in the next...

Freepmail me if you want to go for it.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 7:32:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

You have personal mail.


29 posted on 12/28/2012 8:00:50 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: butterdezillion

Followed up and email my representatives.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 9:21:15 AM PST by notted
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To: Marine_Uncle

Can you send it again? I didn’t get it.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 9:24:34 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: notted

Excellent! Thank you!


32 posted on 12/28/2012 9:28:06 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

It has been sent.


33 posted on 12/28/2012 9:48:44 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: butterdezillion

I admire your efforts.

Sometimes I have knowingly fought losing battles in order to make a point, to do what’s right.

I’m looking at this more philosophically. So much more is involved than legalities, crucial as they are.

Obama is the President of the United States in all the ways that count, in practice if not in law. The people that have to accept him as President in order for him to function as one, do accept him. It would be like a fake doctor who has been a doctor for long enough to have been accepted as real by his colleagues and all who count. You are backtracking, talking about credentials to run, eligiblity for the ballot, fraudulent documents etc. while from back in ‘08 he has been generally accepted as the President-Elect or the President.

That perception of him, and how he or any President functions under our system, is going to rule the day. Any other thought would be unthinkable to those who to this very moment are meeting with him hoping against hope to avoid “the fiscal cliff”, for example.

If Obama weren’t eligible to be sworn in, what would happen to the Presidency?

Under such a scenario, who would function in that role?

VP Biden?? Or would the ticket be ineligible as well? I won’t get into those weeds here, but you could make a case that Biden is not fit to serve as President, and that Biden was part of a larger conspiracy to elect a fraud, Obama, which he would then benefit from by becoming President himself.

Also, in terms of the 50 states and their SOSs and their AGs being amenable to handling this, I would hate to be the person who was empowered to INVESTIGATE the particulars of this alleged crime. You might believe that the affadavit by the individual calling the BC a forgery makes this open and shut, and that speaking with him would be the only action needed. I don’t think so. That is on the side of the accusation against Obama. Obama has a legal side in this, too. And to investigate this from Obama’s side you would need to pursue interviews with him and people around him and all sorts of other issues. Remember when they suspected Scooter Libby and Karl Rove of an illegal leak and those two got their own attorneys and were questioned by investigators and brought before Grand Jurys etc.

Remember when Bill Clinton ran into his legal problems, that Clinton had a definite “side” in the matter. Finally in the end only the judge in whose court he made false statements held him accountable, and that in a minor way (ultimately law license suspended and he was in contempt of the proceedings in her court). Chump change.

How I would hate to try to investigate the potential defendant’s side in this matter. State SOSs and AGs trying to individually pursue this against the interests of the President of the United States??

The only way to avoid such due process mindnumbing hurdles would be if the case became a federal case and the federal prosecutor in DC where Obama resides would pursue it. But as we all know, that will not happen.

Congress could investigate. That would be the House. But they are trying to deal with the occupier of the Oval Office on matters that must be dealt with, and they will have to deal with him after inauguration day as well. There has to be a President, under our system.

I know you are looking at this from the narrow legal perspective you laid out (issue: Presidential election ballot access) and are doing your best to go forward with.

OK.

There is so much more to it than that.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 11:17:33 AM PST by txrangerette ("hold to the truth...speak without fear". (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

The size of the problem is all the more reason it HAS to be addressed.

Right now Congress knows that Obama cannot qualify by Jan 20, 2013, unless his birth facts are legally determined. The starting point for all this is for a Congress-critter to file a lawsuit with standing so the evidence can be looked at and it can be determined whether he qualifies. That is the first step. We have to have that step. If we don’t have that, we have NOTHING. No rule of law. No America.

If, after a legal examination of all the records and explanations for the discrepancies thus far, it is found that he HAS qualified, then Congress has to deal with the crimes that have been committed - the forgeries, the perjury, the fraud, the threats, the destruction of legal records, etc.

If it is found that he has not qualified, then the courts have to figure out what that means regarding what has been unlawfully done for the past 4 years. And law enforcement begins the huge, huge task of investigating and prosecuting all the crimes committed.

That’s how it has to be, unless we concede that the rule of law is gone from this country. In which case, let’s just disband Congress and every law enforcement entity in the country already, since nothing they do matters anyway.

That’s where we’re at. And Congress and everybody else knows it.


35 posted on 12/28/2012 11:51:51 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, would you please consider putting this thread under “Breaking News”? This thread is a call for Freeper action that is time-sensitive and based on a criminal complaint that I have legally filed concerning election fraud.

Thanks!


36 posted on 12/28/2012 12:15:18 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: txrangerette

Ah, this Miracle on 34th st rational was recently used by one of our enlightened judges.


37 posted on 12/28/2012 12:32:31 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: butterdezillion
That’s where we’re at. And Congress and everybody else knows it.

Yes they do, and I predict that not one of them will pony up. Louie Gomert of Trey Goudie, maybe even outgoing Alan West could step up, but I doubt it.

We are reaping what we have sown, and it will be a bitter harvest.

I am sure there will be some 2A people along telling us it could never happen here, but I said when he was elected that we had under gone a bloodless Coup d'état and no one noticed. Well they will notice soon.

You have taken on a task that will not be appreciated not unlike Orly, and you saw how she was pilloried on FR.

38 posted on 12/28/2012 12:39:12 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot

I don’t know Goudie. I had thought of Gohmert and West. Does anybody here have any particular “in” with Allen West? He of all people should realize that without the rule of law he’ll never get elected again anyway, simply because of election fraud - which is what this is about.


39 posted on 12/28/2012 1:00:08 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: All
bmk.

40 posted on 12/28/2012 1:06:33 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: butterdezillion

You might try Joe Manchin of WV. He is at heart a conservative who has bought the cool-aid. He is the only one I can think of who “could” be persuaded.


41 posted on 12/28/2012 4:17:17 PM PST by WVNan
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To: butterdezillion
Timing couldn't be much worse: we're heading into Saturday of a holiday weekend.

Nonetheless, as one of Louie Gohmert's constituents who has worked with his home (Tyler) office staff, I will do what I can to get through to him.

Please list the top three (3) things I should request from Louie:

1)

2)

3)

Should I start with your letter (which Gohmert should already have)?

With your guidance, I'll e-mail Jonna, his District Director, tonight and call her cell phone tomorrow.

42 posted on 12/28/2012 4:46:30 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: WVNan

WV is one of the states where Obama perjured himself twice. If there’s anybody who hates being lied to, this should definitely rub them the wrong way.

Any idea how I could get access to him and/or his attention?


43 posted on 12/28/2012 5:14:50 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: TXnMA

I just sent you a Freepmail.


44 posted on 12/28/2012 5:40:31 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Took me three tries to post a reply!

I just sent you a freepmail.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 5:49:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: butterdezillion

Gd bless you!
we need a condensed version
the info with cold case posse is the most convincing


46 posted on 12/28/2012 7:32:48 PM PST by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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To: butterdezillion

Joe Manchin is a democrat Senator for WV. His contact info would be on his official web page.


47 posted on 12/28/2012 10:57:56 PM PST by WVNan
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To: butterdezillion

Did you take into account that the 113th Congress is sworn in on January 3rd and that they will be the ones counting the vote on January 4th. Senators or Representatives who retired or were defeated in the November 6th election (for example Rep. West) will not be there.


48 posted on 12/28/2012 11:23:39 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: paythefiddler

I’m working on this, between family responsibilities and computer repairs. Hopefully will have something soon.


49 posted on 12/29/2012 6:38:48 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Nellie ? do a search on the web on a person named Derick J. Howell , he is a ex-state police man and currently a lawyer.
He's at this web sight.

Institution of the Constitution the American View

Perhaps you can get Larry Klayman to get in contact with Derick J. Howell, this man is very bright, smart, and passionate for our country.

Here is his picture:


50 posted on 12/29/2012 10:20:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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