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History Channel New Propaganda Tool for Oliver Stone's Rewrite of History
Self ^ | 12/2/2012 | Self

Posted on 12/02/2012 7:09:51 PM PST by winner3000

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I used to love the History channel. If we get a la carte programming, it might not make it to my carte!
1 posted on 12/02/2012 7:09:57 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

It’s a good thing nobody takes the “History” Channel seriously anymore.


2 posted on 12/02/2012 7:17:32 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: winner3000

The new and improved “REVISIONIST HISTORY” channel


3 posted on 12/02/2012 7:17:54 PM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: winner3000

The bottom line is this. Even is oliver stone was correct (snowball’s chance in hell of that ever happening) we still were justified in dropping the nukes. In fact, if we had 20 more nukes we would have been justified in dropping them too. Japan attacked us unprovoked. They forfeited all right to exist.


4 posted on 12/02/2012 7:30:52 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: ronnie raygun

Are you sure the History Channel didn’t bank-role the latest leftist fantasy Lincoln love-fest?


5 posted on 12/02/2012 7:33:10 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: winner3000

*** and they surrendered only after the 2nd bomb was dropped on them, it is the Soviet Union’s invasion of Manchuria that finally made them decide to surrender!***

Years go (early 1980s) I was listening to RADIO MOSCOW on my shortwave set.

Vladimir Pozner was giving his propaganda broadcast about how it was the Soviet invasion that caused the Japanese to surrender, not the nukes.

But then, no one could believe anything from RADIO MOSCOW at that time.


6 posted on 12/02/2012 7:36:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The parasites now outnumber the producers.)
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To: winner3000

I saw a show several years back on the History or Discovery channels that speculated that Japan may have tested a small nuclear weapon in a harbor in Korea during WWII. They described the Japanese effort to develop nuclear weapons and they were further along than you might think. Read a little bit about how they treated American prisoners.


7 posted on 12/02/2012 7:38:33 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NKP_Vet

Anyone with half a brain knows that the fanatical Japanese would have never surrendered. Hell, they told their men, women and children to fight to the death if Americans invaded mainland Japan. We bombarded the hell out of Iwo Jima for nine months, then lost 7,000 men during the fighting. The Japanese were underground! It would have been the exact same thing if we had invaded the mainland, but a thousand times worse.

I despise leftist/libertarian no-nothings that say the Atomic Bomb was not necessary. It was the only way to end the war without more bloodshed in the hundreds of thousands on both sides.


8 posted on 12/02/2012 7:44:57 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: winner3000

I have never understood this line of thought about the A-bomb attacks. If we would not have used the A-bomb LeMay would have firebombed those cities and others, probably killing as many people or more before forcing the surrender.


9 posted on 12/02/2012 7:49:27 PM PST by MCF
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And the History Channel has come against me ever being born, too.

My father went through the european theatre of WWII unscathed; however, he was then slated to go over to the Pacific theatre to participate in the invasion of Japan. The dropping of those two nuclear bombs on Japan ended the war and prevented the probable death of my father in a japanese invasion.

I have a special affection for Pres. Truman's action in that.

10 posted on 12/02/2012 8:18:05 PM PST by Stepan12
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Truman was a Great American.

Oliver Stone doesn't say more people would have died with a man invasion

11 posted on 12/02/2012 8:21:28 PM PST by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Stepan12

Me too. My dad served on an LST in the South Pacific and definitely would have participated in the invasion of mainland Japan. My feeling is that I most likely wouldn’t be here if Truman hadn’t made the decision he did. Thanks for my existence, Harry.

Japan started the war, not the U.S. Actions have consequences.


12 posted on 12/02/2012 8:40:47 PM PST by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: winner3000

Those two bombs almost certainly saved my father’s life and the lives of millions of other soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. Look at the battles for Okinawa and Iwo Jima for a vision of what the invasion of Japan would’ve been like. And what’s wrong with “bamboozling” the Japanese and Soviets?


13 posted on 12/02/2012 9:04:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ConservativeTeen

They left out the part that according to MacAurther, there would have been upward of a million casualties to invade Japan.


14 posted on 12/02/2012 9:17:24 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: winner3000
What hogwash.

The Japanese were preparing for an invasion. They would have fought for every inch, with a terrible cost in lives on both sides. My father was in the Pacific, and I probably would not be here had the planned US invasion gone ahead.

The US government ordered huge stockpiles of Purple Heart medals in anticipation of the campaign in the home islands. I believe that hoard of medals is still in use.

Were the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki ghastly? Yes. Does anyone doubt that such a bomb would have been dropped on Berlin had it been developed earlier? I do not. The firebombings of Hamburg and Dresden were also horrific.

The alternatives to Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have been tens of millions of Japanese deaths and quite likely the destruction of Japanese culture.
15 posted on 12/02/2012 9:18:58 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: NKP_Vet

BUMP

millions I bet


16 posted on 12/02/2012 9:34:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Man it seems like I am in a parallel dimension.

We have switched places with Russia, and we are now the promoters of international socialism, spewing the same propaganda Radio Moscow did in the Cold War...

One thing you can always count on is that Oliver Stone is ALWAYS wrong. Expect that whatever he says is exactly opposite of the truth.


17 posted on 12/02/2012 9:39:50 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: Nepeta

Many, maybe most, Japanese were aghast at the surrender, there was almost a coup over it!

They would have rather fought


18 posted on 12/02/2012 9:41:09 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Wildbill22

I too have a father who was going to be part of the mainland invasion, predicting 80 percent casualties.

Oliver Stone is not just wrong;

He is evil.


19 posted on 12/02/2012 9:41:43 PM PST by Wildbill22
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To: scooby321

Dropping the two bombs saved hundreds of thousands of lives. Maybe if Stone was one of the young Americans waiting off the coast of Japan with the invasion force he would see this differently. Japan would have been bombed for months by B29 bombers before the invasion. The use of firebombs were almost as deadly as atom bombs. They say over a million Japanese would have died in an invasion and America would have had something like 300,000 casualties.


20 posted on 12/02/2012 10:27:30 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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