Posted on 11/29/2012 10:23:24 AM PST by nitzy
I used to work for a non union printing company that printed union contracts. They chose us specifically because we weren’t union and could got the job done cheaply and would do it on an “on call” basis. If the union negotiations ended in the middle of the night, I would get a call and get up and go to work.
Good luck getting a union company to do that.
That is helpful. Thanks.
Yeah, when I heard about them I was scared for your state. I thought too many would not understand and sink you through ignorance.
Thanks for the link.
“As long as these trade unions don’t seek political power...”
Are you kidding? Have you been paying attention to the Obama
Administration for the past four years?
You are welcome, look up Davis Bacon Act for some more info.
“A non-union printing company that printed union contracts.
they chose you specifically because you weren’t union and could get the job done cheaply and would do it on an “on call” basis.”
There is more irony there than even my hard-charging brain
can process. What you are suggesting and what it proves is that unions can’t even deal with themselves! BUT THEY’D LIKE ALL OF US TO DEAL WITH THEM.
There’s so much in your short response it should serve as a prime example of what’s wrong with Unions.
You are not safe being in the woods with this guy.
I’m not even necessarily anti union. I was in the AFL-CIO myself and hated it but think unions are a good thing in a limited number of high risk jobs like mining, oil rig workers etc.
At the end of the day, every (private sector) worker should have the choice to join or not join a union
“Dues” is the key word...the Linemen from other states, like Georgia and Alabama, have all of the training and certifications for their job, but were turned away by the northeastern unions because they weren’t “members”...and the only thing missing was the “dues”.
Meanwhile, people who suffered damage from “Sandy” are still in the dark.
Unions build mediocrity in workers; sure, pay is equalized, but it’s also restricted so that those who don’t want to wander with the herd cannot exceed at their jobs and be rewarded for it.
“Security” of the paycheck? Benjamin Franklin said it of the government, but it applies to unions as well; “He who gives up freedom, for security, has neither.” (paraphrasing).
The union employees at the Hostess plant had “security”, until their union massas got greedy and now they have NO paychecks...over 18-thousand of them.
The bottom line, unions are mob rackets and benefit no one but the union leaders.
Right to work states have all of the services that they have up north, and do them just as well, of not better...with NO unions.
Unionism is a farce...it’s a microcosm of socialism/communism and it’s all about the leadership...not the members.
I have to disagree about those high risk jobs needing to be union. That is why we have OSHA,MSHA,DOL and numerous other agencies to protect workers.
Yeah how much did the unions steal till that law/ruling (I cannot remember which) was it was reversed?
He is a far better hunter than I could hope to be.
Maybe he can teach me to hunt and I can teach him to think. ;)
They’re still getting the money as the process works its way out. In a way, letting it continue for a little while might be good because they’re going to be sued and have to pay back the current $33 million + whatever else is included.
http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16302
I worked in the Electric Shop at the shipyard in Pascagoula MS for a while and had to join the electric union and I did it because I needed the job at the time. It was pretty ineffective and the union bosses were pretty much rubes who thought they were big shots. Never did anything beneficial and also caused some other issues - I spent 24 years in the military working on electronic/computerized communication systems and I was offered a job shaking down the ships comm gear. They offered it to me because unlike most of the riff-raff that used the union to get away with quitting and just walking out, then coming back for their jobs when it was convenient, I was a good worker and had turned in my 2-week notice. I asked what the pay differential would be for moving into the more technical area and was told there was no difference - it was all eclectic shop. I suppose there are more powerful trade unions, but I’m not a union person and would imagine that they don’t really serve a big purpose.
33 mil, nice chunk of change.
There are a handful which were actually useful once upon a time in certifying people to a certain skill level before they worked in the trade.
But I cannot think of one where that holds true now. IOW, you will probably get a better carpentry job done by hiring an Amish businessman than by calling on a crew from the carpenter's union. The union guys do most of their work at inflated prices from government entities (or their contractors) which have no other choice than to deal with the cartel.
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