Skip to comments.Why won’t Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine?
Posted on 11/18/2012 9:12:47 AM PST by jmaroneps37
Within a few days Father Joseph McShane S.J. the president of New Yorks Fordham University called Ann Coulter too hateful and needlessly provocative as he ordered that she be disinvited to speak at Fordham.
Then he had no trouble approving ethicist Peter Singer as a speaker. Singer is a man who promotes the murder of children he would consider defective within the first two years of their lives.
According an article in First Things magazine, Singer has spent a lifetime justifying the unjustifiable. He is the founding father of the animal liberation movement and advocates ending the present speciesist bias against taking seriously the interests of nonhuman animals.
He is also a defender of killing the aged (if they have dementia), newborns (for almost any reason until they are two years old), necrophilia (assuming its consensual), and bestiality (also assuming its consensual).
..As the founder of a movement elevating animals to equality with humans [Singer] has cheapened human life. He is guilty of promoting the murder of the sick and elderly in the name of convenience.
He is guilty of promoting the murder of defective children to satisfy of his own definition of who has a right to life. He is guilty of promoting necrophilia which is nothing less than Satanic and he is guilty of promoting bestiality a sin of the gravest degree that certain makes Satan proud.
Nevertheless, somewhere lodged in his own sick mind, Father McShane has determined that the purely political rhetoric of Ann Coulter would be more harmful to his students than the words of the monster Singer. Coulter is therefore not acceptable as a topic for free discussion at Fordham.
The worst thing about Singer is his endearing nature. He is a perfect earthly representative of Satan
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Defend Catholic doctrine? I’d be satisfied to know there are Jesuits who actually believe in Catholic doctrine, much less be willing to defend it.
Their education has been liberal for years.
Why wont Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine?
Because they are Jesuits, not Catholics. The Church has been stretched to the breaking point. The only way to remain true to its’ doctrine is to start excommunicating thousands, including a lot of Jesuits.
But that would slow the money train, and there is already trouble there.
Just like world govts, giant institutions like the Church are doomed until they burn down and rise again from the ashes.
Jesuits have always been rather...pragmatic about allowing heterodox beliefs and practices as long as it resulted in conversion.
The Chinese Rites controversy was all about the Dominicans demanding that Chinese converts practice the same Mass as Europe, and the Jesuits allowed for traditional practices like ancestor worship. That was centuries ago.
Marxism and Postmodern philosophy is a lot more dangerous to accommodate these days.
I was planning to attend Notre Dame but they invited to campus ...and bestowed a high honor on...an infamous advocate of killing babies...
Isn’t that like asking why Catholics won’t defend Jesuit doctrine?
Which proves they want to be dominated
If you look into the history of the Jesuits you’ll find they’re a brood of vipers.
Notre Dame honored The Incompetent One who voted multiple times to deny medical aid to a baby that survived an abortion and had pro-lifers arrested who protested his being honored. Outrageous!
>>Jesuits have always been rather...pragmatic about allowing heterodox beliefs and practices as long as it resulted in conversion.<<
I knew giving away toaster ovens for conversions would come back to bite them...
As I understand it, Fr. Mateo Ricci and others of the 16th-18th century Chinese mission, were appropriately allowing Chinese customs which had been purified of non-Christian meanngs. The most well-known was the Chinese custom of ancestor-worship. This was, in part, a matter of civic custom, (like putting a wreath at the grave of the Unknown Soldier); partly simple acknowledgment of felial piety, and partly a matter of pagan spiritist beliefs. Ricci saw that the first two meanings are compatible with Catholicism, and the third could be re-interpreted by believers as a reminder to pray for the souls of the dead.
The Catholic Church suppressed the Jesuit mission, wrongly believing that they tolerated idolatry; the Church reversed this stance in 1939, after further investigation and a clarified ruling by Pope Pius XII. But by then it was too late: the Catolic Mission in China was substantially dismantled.
Notre Dame isn’t Jesuit (SJ). It’s Holy Cross Fathers (CSC).
Not always. There are very great Jesuit saints: Ignatius Loyola, Francis Xavier, and Edmund Campion among many others.
The Church should have disciplined them 50 years ago. I told all my children at an early age: No Jesuit school ever.
yes of course, sorry I did not mean to confuse the two
(but the problem exists, in spades, at Notre Dame, just as it apparently does at Fordham..., alas....alas...)
Thanks again very much,
It isn’t only young Catholics who are confused, a lot of us older ones are having problems too.
The Bishops hiding pedophile faggots, Nuns wanting to be Preists and are pro-abortion, Lesbians in the fold, Bishops pushing Obamacare and then getting bitten by it. Bishops letting false Catholic politicians do anything they like.Few people go to confession any more and many we see Easter and Christmas.Bishops shoving illegals down our throats.
It is confusing, and it’s hurting the Church.
Good question. 4 years at a Jesuit University, chosen because it was supposedly a Catholic College, did more to harm my faith than grow it. I always say that my faith survived 4 years of Catholic education. Very sad.
As a beneficiary of 8 years of Jesuit education I disagree. While the opinions of many of the Society are controversial and were as well when I was at Fordham, I was never indoctrinated. As a matter of fact I was taught and encouraged to think and evaluate and conclude. One anecdote. Some years ago I attended a Fordham Columbia FB game. I made a politically incorrect comment on one of Fordham’s ends about his height and a Columbia fan chastised me for not being politically correct. I responded that I had a Jesuit education and didn’t have to be politically correct because I was taught how to think not what to think like the Ivies. Joseph O’Hare SJ the school’s Pres. came over and made a point of shaking my hand. Also, I attended several different grad schools of CUNY after Fordham and found myself far better prepared for the work than most of my fellows. As to the Coulter invite. It appears the College republicans withdrew the invite prior to McShane’s comments though there may have been some backchannel communication from McShane’s office. It appears Coulter was a second choice because George Will wanted too high a fee.
Why wont Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine? Because they are atheists, Marxists, and homosexuals.
Answer, Jesuits are not Catholic, they are pagan.
Jesuits, like their 'educated' friends believe that one should be able to do whatever one likes, as long as it feels OK. The Jesuits push the notion of 'conscience as King', and teach that as long as YOU feel good about something, it's not sinful, no matter what the Church teaches. It's the perfect 'moral system' for the self-obsessed.
they are smarter than the bible or the pope...or so they think
Since ballots are secret and have no m/f on them, I don’t believe such drivvle as to how many hispanic, females males etc..only believe the blacks vote for staying on the plantation...by about 95%, the rest is garbage...
I have always wondered about that myself. How do they get these statistics on the demographics of the vote?
Someone pulls the numbers out of a hat and say OK these are the numbers for today....they think we are that stupid. For years I have wondered in distance past voting, they would call a winner when thousands of military haven’t been counted and at sometime during the counting, it would be mentioned military ballots still aren’t counted...that goes back 30 years....but we have a mostly democrat winner...
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