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Why won’t Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine?
coachisright.com ^ | Nov 18, 2012 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 11/18/2012 9:12:47 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Within a few days Father Joseph McShane S.J. the president of New York’s Fordham University called Ann Coulter “too hateful and needlessly provocative” as he ordered that she be disinvited to speak at Fordham.

Then he had no trouble approving “ethicist” Peter Singer as a speaker. Singer is a man who promotes the murder of children he would consider “defective” within the first two years of their lives.

According an article in “First Things” magazine, “Singer has spent a lifetime justifying the unjustifiable. He is the founding father of the animal liberation movement and advocates ending “the present speciesist bias against taking seriously the interests of nonhuman animals.”

He is also a defender of killing the aged (if they have dementia), newborns (for almost any reason until they are two years old), necrophilia (assuming it’s consensual), and bestiality (also assuming it’s consensual).”

“..As the founder of a movement elevating animals to equality with humans [Singer] has cheapened human life. He is guilty of promoting the murder of the sick and elderly in the name of convenience.

He is guilty of promoting the murder of “defective” children to satisfy of his own definition of who has a right to life. He is guilty of promoting necrophilia which is nothing less than Satanic and he is guilty of promoting bestiality – a sin of the gravest degree that certain makes Satan proud.

Nevertheless, somewhere lodged in his own sick mind, Father McShane has determined that the purely political rhetoric of Ann Coulter would be more harmful to his students than the words of the monster Singer. Coulter is therefore not acceptable as a topic for free discussion at Fordham.

The worst thing about Singer is his endearing nature. He is a perfect earthly representative of Satan…

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TOPICS: Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: fordham
No wonder so many Catholic young people are so confused about right and wrong. Fordham as most Jesuit colleges teaches that Catholic doctrine is wrong and harmful. How sad!
1 posted on 11/18/2012 9:12:51 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Defend Catholic doctrine? I’d be satisfied to know there are Jesuits who actually believe in Catholic doctrine, much less be willing to defend it.


2 posted on 11/18/2012 9:16:02 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Their education has been liberal for years.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 9:16:38 AM PST by bmwcyle (Women reelected Obama)
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To: jmaroneps37
Jesuits are Catholic?

Who knew?

4 posted on 11/18/2012 9:18:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Apostates.


5 posted on 11/18/2012 9:20:10 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: jmaroneps37

Why won’t Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine?

Because they are Jesuits, not Catholics. The Church has been stretched to the breaking point. The only way to remain true to its’ doctrine is to start excommunicating thousands, including a lot of Jesuits.

But that would slow the money train, and there is already trouble there.

Just like world govts, giant institutions like the Church are doomed until they burn down and rise again from the ashes.


6 posted on 11/18/2012 9:20:53 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: jmaroneps37

Jesuits have always been rather...pragmatic about allowing heterodox beliefs and practices as long as it resulted in conversion.

The Chinese Rites controversy was all about the Dominicans demanding that Chinese converts practice the same Mass as Europe, and the Jesuits allowed for traditional practices like ancestor worship. That was centuries ago.

Marxism and Postmodern philosophy is a lot more dangerous to accommodate these days.


7 posted on 11/18/2012 9:28:08 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: jmaroneps37

I was planning to attend Notre Dame but they invited to campus ...and bestowed a high honor on...an infamous advocate of killing babies...


8 posted on 11/18/2012 9:33:04 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: jmaroneps37

Isn’t that like asking why Catholics won’t defend Jesuit doctrine?


9 posted on 11/18/2012 9:33:34 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: bmwcyle
said, "Women reelected Obama"

Which proves they want to be dominated

10 posted on 11/18/2012 9:39:20 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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If you look into the history of the Jesuits you’ll find they’re a brood of vipers.


11 posted on 11/18/2012 9:39:35 AM PST by Hayride
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To: faithhopecharity

Notre Dame honored The Incompetent One who voted multiple times to deny medical aid to a baby that survived an abortion and had pro-lifers arrested who protested his being honored. Outrageous!


12 posted on 11/18/2012 9:51:41 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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To: Shadow44

>>Jesuits have always been rather...pragmatic about allowing heterodox beliefs and practices as long as it resulted in conversion.<<

I knew giving away toaster ovens for conversions would come back to bite them...


14 posted on 11/18/2012 10:04:59 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: Shadow44; jmaroneps37
Shadow, in reference to the Chinese Rites controversy, I believe your interpretation is questionable.

As I understand it, Fr. Mateo Ricci and others of the 16th-18th century Chinese mission, were appropriately allowing Chinese customs which had been purified of non-Christian meanngs. The most well-known was the Chinese custom of ancestor-worship. This was, in part, a matter of civic custom, (like putting a wreath at the grave of the Unknown Soldier); partly simple acknowledgment of felial piety, and partly a matter of pagan spiritist beliefs. Ricci saw that the first two meanings are compatible with Catholicism, and the third could be re-interpreted by believers as a reminder to pray for the souls of the dead.

The Catholic Church suppressed the Jesuit mission, wrongly believing that they tolerated idolatry; the Church reversed this stance in 1939, after further investigation and a clarified ruling by Pope Pius XII. But by then it was too late: the Catolic Mission in China was substantially dismantled.

15 posted on 11/18/2012 10:14:41 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: faithhopecharity; Marathoner 244

Notre Dame isn’t Jesuit (SJ). It’s Holy Cross Fathers (CSC).


16 posted on 11/18/2012 10:16:25 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Hayride

Not always. There are very great Jesuit saints: Ignatius Loyola, Francis Xavier, and Edmund Campion among many others.


17 posted on 11/18/2012 10:17:53 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: jmaroneps37

The Church should have disciplined them 50 years ago. I told all my children at an early age: No Jesuit school ever.


18 posted on 11/18/2012 10:39:49 AM PST by STJPII
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To: Mrs. Don-o

yes of course, sorry I did not mean to confuse the two

(but the problem exists, in spades, at Notre Dame, just as it apparently does at Fordham..., alas....alas...)

Thanks again very much,
fhc


19 posted on 11/18/2012 11:16:33 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: jmaroneps37

It isn’t only young Catholics who are confused, a lot of us older ones are having problems too.

The Bishops hiding pedophile faggots, Nuns wanting to be Preists and are pro-abortion, Lesbians in the fold, Bishops pushing Obamacare and then getting bitten by it. Bishops letting false Catholic politicians do anything they like.Few people go to confession any more and many we see Easter and Christmas.Bishops shoving illegals down our throats.

It is confusing, and it’s hurting the Church.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 11:20:59 AM PST by Venturer
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To: jmaroneps37

Good question. 4 years at a Jesuit University, chosen because it was supposedly a Catholic College, did more to harm my faith than grow it. I always say that my faith survived 4 years of Catholic education. Very sad.


21 posted on 11/18/2012 11:23:05 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: STJPII

As a beneficiary of 8 years of Jesuit education I disagree. While the opinions of many of the Society are controversial and were as well when I was at Fordham, I was never indoctrinated. As a matter of fact I was taught and encouraged to think and evaluate and conclude. One anecdote. Some years ago I attended a Fordham Columbia FB game. I made a politically incorrect comment on one of Fordham’s ends about his height and a Columbia fan chastised me for not being politically correct. I responded that I had a Jesuit education and didn’t have to be politically correct because I was taught how to think not what to think like the Ivies. Joseph O’Hare SJ the school’s Pres. came over and made a point of shaking my hand. Also, I attended several different grad schools of CUNY after Fordham and found myself far better prepared for the work than most of my fellows. As to the Coulter invite. It appears the College republicans withdrew the invite prior to McShane’s comments though there may have been some backchannel communication from McShane’s office. It appears Coulter was a second choice because George Will wanted too high a fee.


22 posted on 11/18/2012 11:24:21 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: jmaroneps37

Why won’t Jesuits defend Catholic doctrine? Because they are atheists, Marxists, and homosexuals.


23 posted on 11/18/2012 12:34:29 PM PST by feralcat
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To: jmaroneps37

Answer, Jesuits are not Catholic, they are pagan.


24 posted on 11/18/2012 1:13:12 PM PST by rcofdayton
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To: jmaroneps37
Many years ago, the Jesuits wedded themselves to the idea that being educated was the most important thing, and they wanted to be connected to the literati. In order to do that, they had to jettison any notions that would not comport with the 'morality' of that group. That's one reason why the Jesuits have seemed to split with the Church on most, if not all, of her teachings on sexuality. So they're squishy, at best, or downright hostile at worst to the Church's teaching on abortion, fornication, and homosexuality.

Jesuits, like their 'educated' friends believe that one should be able to do whatever one likes, as long as it feels OK. The Jesuits push the notion of 'conscience as King', and teach that as long as YOU feel good about something, it's not sinful, no matter what the Church teaches. It's the perfect 'moral system' for the self-obsessed.

25 posted on 11/18/2012 1:49:30 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: jmaroneps37

they are smarter than the bible or the pope...or so they think


26 posted on 11/18/2012 6:45:40 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Since ballots are secret and have no m/f on them, I don’t believe such drivvle as to how many hispanic, females males etc..only believe the blacks vote for staying on the plantation...by about 95%, the rest is garbage...


27 posted on 11/18/2012 6:49:39 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

I have always wondered about that myself. How do they get these statistics on the demographics of the vote?


28 posted on 11/18/2012 9:01:45 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Someone pulls the numbers out of a hat and say OK these are the numbers for today....they think we are that stupid. For years I have wondered in distance past voting, they would call a winner when thousands of military haven’t been counted and at sometime during the counting, it would be mentioned military ballots still aren’t counted...that goes back 30 years....but we have a mostly democrat winner...


29 posted on 11/18/2012 9:34:39 PM PST by goat granny
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