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Let’s raise us some taxes.
The Virginian ^ | 11/17/2012 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 11/17/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by moneyrunner

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To: ThE_RiPpEr.
Barf alert? Might I suggest a "WHAAAT?" alert?

The fellow certainly likes to name-drop, so it's no surprise that he drops the names of Sweden, Norway and Denmark (all of them constitutional monarchies, by the way.)

Note that we're not invited to look under the hood, for:

  1. The income level at which the top rate kicks in.
  2. The scope and extent of loopholes, and whether or not there's an alternative minimum tax.
  3. Everyday life there. How, er, "close-knit" are the neighbours?
No, we're supposed to buy in sight unseen. How convenient that all of those nations have official languages that hardly any American study.
41 posted on 11/17/2012 6:40:59 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: moneyrunner

Ummm I’m not disagreeing with you. I lived in VA for a little over a year and agree with your view on the Pilot btw. Someone asked how long $400b would last and you corrected me. I was replying to your correction.


42 posted on 11/17/2012 6:45:35 PM PST by PJammers (I can't help it... It's my idiom!)
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To: moneyrunner

only those living within the United States

the mentally handicapped should never be allowed to even discuss tax proposals


43 posted on 11/17/2012 7:13:01 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: The Great RJ

“However, I have little faith that the GOP court eunuchs will do nothing but give the Emperor what he wants.”

I suspect that on the upcoming tax “compromise” bill we will find out which Republicans have thick FBI files and which are not vulnerable to persuasion due to their moral lapses.


44 posted on 11/17/2012 7:26:48 PM PST by Soul of the South
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To: JamesA
Perhaps its time to cut the pay of the part time politicians and set term limits. Don’t guess that’ll ever happen so I’m out of Ideas.

How about a excessive earnings tax on Federal elected and senior appointed officials equal to 75 percent of all income above their base pay as a Federal employee or officer? They are receiving pay from the people to do the people's work, and that amount keeps rising so as to keep up with inflaction.

How about a 30 percent tax on campaign donations?

45 posted on 11/17/2012 8:19:29 PM PST by asinclair (Bulls*it is an ever-renewable resource.)
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To: moneyrunner

I believe $400 billion pays the annual interest on the national debt or close to it.


46 posted on 11/17/2012 10:10:00 PM PST by yadent
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To: moneyrunner
Much as I hate Warren Buffett, part of the reason his taxes are so low is that he takes a "salary" of $100K/yr. His real "income" comes from investments.

If you REALLY wanted to cause a financial collapse, raise capital gains taxes.

It would stick it to old Warren real good, but everyone else would suffer.

47 posted on 11/17/2012 10:38:47 PM PST by boop ("I need another Cutty Sark"-LBJ)
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To: boop

You just hit the nail directly on the head. Among Dingle Barry’s many tax proposals for fairness is the increase on dividends from 15% to 43%-—this applies to all dividends not just stocks and bonds.


48 posted on 11/18/2012 3:41:30 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: boop
Much as I hate Warren Buffett, part of the reason his taxes are so low is that he takes a "salary" of $100K/yr. His real "income" comes from investments.

People are not thinking creatively enough. My proposal would tax capital gains, dividend income and other tax favored income in excess of some number, like $1 million, at 50%. For everyone else, it stays the same. Problem solved. Plus, it has the advantage of simplifying the tax code. It's a win-win!

49 posted on 11/18/2012 4:24:36 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: The Wizard
... [tax] high end clothes stores, end retirement funds for elected federal officials, remove provided vehicles for elected federal officials, end special health plans for all federal officials.

See, there are some creative ideas out there that we can all agree on as long as everyone is willing to share in the sacrifice. I know it's tough, but for the good of the country these are sacrifices I'm willing to make.

50 posted on 11/18/2012 4:28:55 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: Yo-Yo
The problem is, and Obama knows this, is that uber-riche like Soros don't get a paycheck for $500 million per year. They get their money as capital gains. Raise the Capital Gains Tax on any gains over $10 million per year, and you'll hit Soros while leaving small businesses untouched. Slap a 75% tax on entertainment-derrived income over $10 million per year, and you'll get the rock stars and A list movie stars as well.

I think you are putting the number too high. Remember, this is for the good of the country. I would put the limit at $1 million. It's going to be a sacrifice, but I'm willing to do it FOR THE CHILDREN.

51 posted on 11/18/2012 4:32:30 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: cableguymn
Didn’t make it past that. Raise any ones taxes and it will in turn affect “the little people”

Well, you have a point. But would Warren Buffett really fire someone if his taxes quadrupled? Or Bill Gates? For people like these, money is not something they need to buy groceries or even their next mansion or yacht. It's a way of keeping score, to see who is ahead on the “Forbes richest” list. Or would Barbra Streisand fire her staff if she had to pay a few million more in taxes? Would you want to work for her anyway? Would the Yale endowment's janitors suffer if we taxed their assets at 10%? Doubtful. Besides, how many people work there anyway? I'm not talking about taxing the clothing store or the guy who installs windows, or the building contractor. The guy who owns the plastics factory or the small manufacturer with 500 employees is probably already a "C" corporation or can become one in short order.

The problem with the conversation the country has had on taxes is that the thinking is stuck in a rut. Conservatives have golden opportunity to change to conversation. The Left says everybody needs to sacrifice, right? By saying this they have fallen into a trap that was explained by Saul Alinsky. Let’s make them live up to their own standards. Let’s talk about taxes on the left’s wealthy fat-cats. let’s talk about the obscene wealth found in tax sheltered foundations and endowments. Let’s talk about taxes on entertainment like movie tickets and CDs. There was a tax on movie receipts back in the 1950s to pay off the war debt.

I’ll bet once you begin to think about it you could come up with some good tax ideas of your own.

52 posted on 11/18/2012 4:51:31 AM PST by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner

You should’ve told him.

Obama’s certainly ruined my night.


53 posted on 11/18/2012 4:57:11 AM PST by sauropod (For Barack so loved the poor, he created millions more of them.)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

That’s just what I want. To be like Sweden, Norway, or Denmark.

FOAD Mr. Butterfield.


54 posted on 11/18/2012 5:02:46 AM PST by sauropod (For Barack so loved the poor, he created millions more of them.)
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To: moneyrunner; Carry_Okie

If your proposal includes the Sierra Club, Defenders of Wildlife, World Wildlife Fund, the League of Conservation Voters, the Center for Biodiversity, Earthjustice, etc. then...

Sign me up.


55 posted on 11/18/2012 5:05:23 AM PST by sauropod (For Barack so loved the poor, he created millions more of them.)
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To: moneyrunner
I think you are putting the number too high. Remember, this is for the good of the country. I would put the limit at $1 million. It's going to be a sacrifice, but I'm willing to do it FOR THE CHILDREN.

I know my tag line has a play in your response, but I think $1 million is too low. We don't want to discourage venture capitalists from investing in the next Bill Gates. There is a good reason why the capital gains tax rate is lower than ordinary income tax tates.

56 posted on 11/18/2012 5:16:29 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: moneyrunner

I agree with you completely—My point is that we also need to go after, aggressively, the “hidden” wealth that insulates the Left/liberals from their policies that hurt average Americans.


57 posted on 11/18/2012 7:11:25 AM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about liberals, and it lies about conservatives.)
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To: asinclair

A tax on some officials ... now you are talking.

I think we need to start trimming from the top down with lay-offs, hiring freezes and wage freezes for bureaucrats and their staffs.

Fire all of Obama’s czars and lay off all of their staffs. Cut the white house staff. Put all federal employees on Medicaid instead of gold-plated health insurance.

I think the president should lead the way by volunteering to take a 10 percent wage cut and working with a skeleton staff.


58 posted on 11/19/2012 12:50:12 AM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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