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Easy to Prove the Administration Lied about Benghazi Attack
Deprogramming Liberalism ^ | November 17/12 | Jim Autio

Posted on 11/17/2012 10:16:52 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism

Congressional committees and hearings are not necessary to prove without doubt that the administration deliberately lied when it attributed the Benghazi consulate attack solely to demonstrators. A simple Google search for September 11-12 brings up dozens of media reports indicating that at the very least an organized attack took advantage of a possible demonstration as cover (we now know there was no demonstration). Experts from around the world were quoted as insisting that the attack was organized, with many naming names. Furthermore, evidence of an organized attack is multitudinous in these reports. For the administration to have claimed it had no information that indicated that organized terrorists might have been involved is to assert that the administration doesn’t read the media. Not even the Drudge Report, apparently. At 7:00 AM ET on September 12 Drudge had a main headline and link to a Reuters report that contained:

~U.S. government officials said the Benghazi attack may have been planned in advance and there were indications that members of a militant faction calling itself Ansar al Sharia - which translates as Supporters of Islamic Law - may have been involved. ... They also said some reporting from the region suggested that members of Al-Qaeda's north Africa-based affiliate, known as Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, may have been involved.~

For the Obama administration to adamantly insist for weeks afterwards that the Benghazi consulate attack was solely the result of a spontaneous demonstration can only be a result of a deliberate plan of propaganda to lie to the American people. Obama played stupid and expected his sycophantic press to play stupid as well and cover for him. Of course, they did, but not until after they got their talking points from the administration, which was a couple of days late. By then they had already let the cat out of the bag...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; benghazi; dncrico; misprisionoffelony; obama; obamaabdication; obamatreason; rinotreason; terrorism; treason

1 posted on 11/17/2012 10:16:59 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

I’m not sure it helps if we prove they lied. They just explain it with the “Bush lied us into war in Iraq” by exaggerating WMD. O can claim he was trying to not exaggerate terrorist threats and get a pass (because he is after all winner of Nobel Peace Prize. LOL).

I think it more productive to explore whether a distress call went out? Was it ignored? Who said “stand down”? Why did SOS Hillary and O leave this bastion unprotected and then when the SHTF just sacrificed them to the savages?


2 posted on 11/17/2012 10:24:12 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

They kept the lie going with taxpayer money to make an apology ad regarding the film they blamed. The poor film maker is still sitting in a jail!


3 posted on 11/17/2012 10:24:32 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
Why do you say The poor film maker is still sitting in a jail! That 'poor' film maker is exactly where he belongs.
4 posted on 11/17/2012 10:26:12 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

For making the film?


5 posted on 11/17/2012 10:26:59 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather
For making the film?

He went to jail for having fake identities, broke his probation. His so called film was done for the sole purpose of besmirching Jews and Christians of which he is neither.

6 posted on 11/17/2012 10:29:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
"That 'poor' film maker is exactly where he belongs."

Then so do his fbi handlers...and everyone else up the foodchain.

7 posted on 11/17/2012 10:32:07 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Mark Levin: We don’t tolerate fascism in America and we should be very very frightened of this administration

http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-we-dont-tolerate-fascism-in-america-and-we-should-be-very-very-frightened-of-this-administration/


8 posted on 11/17/2012 10:32:45 AM PST by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: DeprogramLiberalism
Yes it is easy to prove King Obama’s empire lied and are guilty of not providing security therefore they are guilty of murder. But in reality, King Obama and his empire has control of America and nothing will happen to them. They will continue to pilferage America and turn us into a third world population.
9 posted on 11/17/2012 10:33:52 AM PST by Logical me
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To: shalom aleichem

what’s this?: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html


10 posted on 11/17/2012 10:35:06 AM PST by stickywillie (stanley ann went black, & never came back)
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To: stickywillie

valerie Plame, Joe Wilson.


11 posted on 11/17/2012 10:40:17 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
So did Levin know this fake film maker told the AP on September 12, 2012 in an interview that his name was Sam Bacile, an Israeli Jew? AND this fake film maker has a record, and he was on probation? I don't think Levin has all the facts to call anything about this fake sitting in a jail cell fascism. Below is a link to a long article reported on September 12, 2012. The so called film maker has NO histroy of making films.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/us-libya-usa-attack-idUSBRE88B0EI20120912

“The “Innocence of Muslims,” the film blamed for provoking the violence, was the work of a California-based Israeli filmmaker Sam Bacile, according to a report by the Associated Press.

It portrays Mohammad as a fool, a philanderer and a religious fake and in one clip posted on YouTube, he was shown in an apparent sexual act with a woman. For many Muslims it is blasphemous even to show a depiction of the Prophet.

Bacile, who described himself to AP as an Israeli Jew, spoke to the agency from hiding on Tuesday. He said that the film, which cost $5 million to make, was intended as a political statement and was financed by more than 100 Jewish donors.

Egypt's Coptic Orthodox Church, meanwhile, condemned Copts living abroad who it said had financed “the production of a film insulting the Prophet Mohammad”. About a 10th of Egypt's 83 million people are Christian.”

12 posted on 11/17/2012 10:42:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: shalom aleichem
You may be right, but I just wanted to illustrate how easy it is to prove the lie.

As far as Bush supposedly lying about WMDs, I debunk that here: #16 The Quiet Funeral of "Bush Lied - Thousands Died!" If you are interested.

13 posted on 11/17/2012 10:44:58 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: Logical me
I agree, it seems bleak, but I am trying to do something about that. Maybe you might be interested: Deprogramming Liberalism
14 posted on 11/17/2012 10:45:27 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: shalom aleichem

“Who said ‘Stand down””?

This is the important question because it is the factor in the resulting deaths of 4 Americans.

I think we need to hear more about that “stand down” order.


15 posted on 11/17/2012 10:48:16 AM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Just mythoughts
or the sole purpose of besmirching Jews and Christians of which he is neither.

I thought he was a Copt (christian).

16 posted on 11/17/2012 10:48:47 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
I thought he was a Copt (christian).

That is exactly what you are suppose to think given the reporting. There is nothing Christian about him.

17 posted on 11/17/2012 10:51:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: shalom aleichem

What is so unbelievable about Libyan film critics running amok? Have you not seen the photos of Roger Ebert standing outside a theater with a mortar?


18 posted on 11/17/2012 10:52:18 AM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: Just mythoughts
He's a two-bit producer who the FBI had to dig dirt on to find something for which to throw him in jail to appease the Islamists.

The charge found was daring to use the internet while on probation...nothing related to the production of the film.

19 posted on 11/17/2012 10:53:09 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

http://shoebat.com/2012/09/27/innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists-2/

This link has been posted many times, and always somebody shows up saying they don’t trust the writer... Well I was searching for answers not hunting for a body to ‘trust’ and what this guy says explains a whole lot.


20 posted on 11/17/2012 10:54:00 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
That is exactly what you are suppose to think given the reporting. There is nothing Christian about him.

He's a copt who wanted to make an anti-Islam film.

21 posted on 11/17/2012 10:54:22 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
He's a copt who wanted to make an anti-Islam film.

Do yourself a favor and do some homework on who this fake film maker really is. He is not a copt or a Jew as he claimed.

22 posted on 11/17/2012 10:58:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
I have done some homework.

Although he's not what you might call an upstanding member of society, a large number of sources (including his Wikipedia bio) identify him as a Copt.

He wanted to make an anti-Muslim film. He's in jail on unrelated charges.

23 posted on 11/17/2012 11:08:53 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Why yes it is like an orchestrated concert, singing Sam the man Bacile is a Coptic Christian except for this guy.

http://shoebat.com/2012/09/27/innocence-of-muslims-film-was-made-by-terrorists-2/

24 posted on 11/17/2012 11:27:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
I understand there is an alternative story.
25 posted on 11/17/2012 11:29:12 AM PST by what's up
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

I have maintained since day one of this, and will continue to maintain until I’m proved wrong, that the whole Benghazi debacle was a coverup for something much, much larger and way more sinister. A blown coverup perhaps, but a coverup nontheless.


26 posted on 11/17/2012 11:33:01 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Anybody can put up a website. The one you refer to is called shoebat.com. It’s a site that was created to send out a message whether it be false or true, about Shoebat.


27 posted on 11/17/2012 11:41:47 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Of course ‘anybody’ can put up a website. But when a lie can be proved from the top, it does not mean every body is required to believe the lie or ignore it.

I just happen to find shoebat more believable that what the rest of the chorus is singing as it makes NO sense that a Coptic Christian would be besmirching other Christians claiming to be a Jew.

28 posted on 11/17/2012 11:48:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: upchuck

Look at the three part story on The Chicago Connection at illinoispaytoplay.com. I had the wrong site on that, before. Look at Aaron Klein’s reporting at WND. Look up THE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP. See who is on their board. Look up the phrase RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT. Obama and Soros and buddies are using the name of the UN to conduct war in the Middle East. They are using our (American taxpayer) money, personnel, equipment and facilities to put money in their pockets. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Kelley’s sister was married to the guy responsible for handing out the cash and favors in postwar Iraq? Too many coincidences here.
The coverup at Benghazi isn’t just about the Obama administration’s incompetence. The coverup is trying to hide the reason why Obama has been using war to change governments in Libya and Syria.


29 posted on 11/17/2012 11:58:46 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

And, lest we forget, the Clintons are involved in this right up to their eyeballs.


30 posted on 11/17/2012 12:00:13 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Just mythoughts

“Film maker” is in jail for violated terms of parole (or is it probation? I always get the terms mixed), he was not supposed to use a computer.

He’s a business partner of Walid Shoebat’s cousin who is a Palistinian Muz jihadi.

The whole thing stinks. The admin. wants the “film maker” away from anyone who can ask him questions.


31 posted on 11/17/2012 12:20:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: DeprogramLiberalism
One of the excuses that pubbie congresscritters are buying is that the riots in Cairo were because of the video. Don't let that BS stand either. They weren't.

Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots video 12:01

32 posted on 11/17/2012 12:21:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Just mythoughts

Thanks for more details and links.

Coptic Christian my ***....


33 posted on 11/17/2012 12:25:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Just mythoughts
His so called film was done for the sole purpose of besmirching Jews and Christians of which he is neither.

He didn't do that.

Proof Positive - In My Opinion (who created Innocence of Muslims)(Obama)

There were four versions of Nakoula's movie.

Only the final one was forwarded, by persons unknown, to Sheikh Khalid Abdullah the cleric in Cairo who aired it on TV. Nakoula, the maker of the original film, was not the one who uploaded the final version, Innocence of Muslims, to the internet.

You can hear some interesting things about the timeline of all these iterations of "the movie" in the Youtube video linked below. Start at 9:30 and watch to 16:00 for the meat of that.

False Flag, Currently Underway ?

Even the protests and attack in Cairo weren't about that stupid 'video.'

Brian Lilley: The MSM is lying about the muslim riots
Interviews on the streets of Cairo. 'Video' had nothing to do with protests and attack.

34 posted on 11/17/2012 12:26:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: upchuck
There's always the secret CIA prison angel: Google search
35 posted on 11/17/2012 12:28:24 PM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: upchuck
And then I just found this: Benghazi Betrayal May be a Cover-Up of American Weapons in Hands of Terrorists
36 posted on 11/17/2012 12:29:24 PM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: Just mythoughts
The "Innocence of Muslims," the film blamed for provoking the violence, was the work of a California-based Israeli filmmaker Sam Bacile, according to a report by the Associated Press.

The only source there is "a report by the Associated Press." There is no interview and no person cited as a source. It goes on to tell what is now known to be an outright fabrication...

It portrays Mohammad as a fool, a philanderer and a religious fake and in one clip posted on YouTube, he was shown in an apparent sexual act with a woman. For many Muslims it is blasphemous even to show a depiction of the Prophet.

That wasn't the script that Nakoula filmed as the actors themselves have said. The first version of the film was not about Mohammed at all. Not one word about him.

37 posted on 11/17/2012 12:34:08 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye

Placemark for fake film info eompendium.


38 posted on 11/17/2012 10:59:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: shalom aleichem
Who said “stand down”?

Funny with all our fascination withe sex and betrayal, we have completely lost sight of the real question in all of this.

39 posted on 11/18/2012 5:15:24 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

IT WAS NOT A CONSULATE! It was A Diplomatic Facility,whatever the Hell that is, What is the Government definition of a Diplomatic Facility?


40 posted on 11/18/2012 5:24:21 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: TigersEye
I sure do appreciate you posting all these links. It sure would be interesting if Congress would take the time to investigate the Obama, Clinton and Rice's claims of causation for the deaths of 4 Americans.
41 posted on 11/18/2012 7:43:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ballplayer

Sorry. I’m not seeing the significance of this. I have already posted links suggesting it might have instead been a detention center or arms cache. What matters is why Americans were unnecessarily left to die - whatever the compound was and whatever it was called.


42 posted on 11/18/2012 9:16:44 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: Just mythoughts

Thank you. All we can do is keep making a stink about it I guess. I’m open to suggestions from anyone on how to put a fire under their butts.


43 posted on 11/18/2012 11:00:23 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

Well its pretty simple,they did not provide security or come to the aid of these people because Obama does not want the American People to know he is arming Islamic Jihadists that had been Previously Killing our troops,Arming them with weapons from Kadafis arsenal and sending them to Syria to oust Assad. If you cant Understand That I cant Help you


44 posted on 11/18/2012 1:34:01 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: DeprogramLiberalism

Well its pretty simple,they did not provide security or come to the aid of these people because Obama does not want the American People to know he is arming Islamic Jihadists that had been Previously Killing our troops,Arming them with weapons from Kadafis arsenal and sending them to Syria to oust Assad. If you cant Understand That I cant Help you


45 posted on 11/18/2012 1:34:15 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer
If you cant Understand That I cant Help you

What's with the 'tude? It is completely unnecessary.

Well its pretty simple,they did not provide security or come to the aid of these people because Obama does not want the American People to know he is arming Islamic Jihadists that had been Previously Killing our troops,Arming them with weapons from Kadafis arsenal and sending them to Syria to oust Assad.

I find that rather convoluted, not "pretty simple". I am not saying you are not correct, only that I haven't followed the dots to that conclusion. Frankly, I am not sure what to conclude.

46 posted on 11/18/2012 5:31:02 PM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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