Posted on 11/16/2012 7:29:31 AM PST by marktwain
Someone stopped by searching for why do so many people want gun control.
That is a good question. Essentially, because gun control appears to be a quick, cheap, and easy solution to a perceived problem. For Germany, the perceived problem was the Treaty of Versailles. For England, the perceived problem was labor violence and the presumption that large numbers of unemployed veterans would turn to crime. For the United States, the first batch of gun control laws were a result of labor violence, the next were a result of prohibition; and the third was an end to politically motivated assassinations.
United States Violent Crime Rate 1960-2011
Of course, like any policy, gun control has costs. Gun control enthusiasts believe the cost will be small, and borne by those forced to surrender their property. And when there are no more guns there will be no more crime, or assassinations, or whatever they see as the problem. In recent months almost every call for gun control has cited our soaring crime rates.
But the facts are simple enough. The chart on the right shows the effects of the third American gun control drive on crime. At the beginning of the United States gun control mania in 1963, violent crime rose from 162 violent crimes per 100,000 persons to 758 at the peak of gun control mania in 1991. Over the same time period, homicide rates more than doubled, going from 4.6 to 9.8 per 100,000.
Since the peak of gun control mania Americans have purchased more than 150 million new guns, and at least 40 million used guns have found new owners. Far from rising crime rates, as gun control enthusiasts would have you believe, the violent crime rate has fallen by 49%, from 758 to 386 violent crimes per 100,000 Americans in 2011. And violent crime continues to fall, from 404 to 386 per 100,000 between 2010 and 2011.
At the same time, our homicide rate has fallen from 9.8 per 100,000 to only 4.7, a 52% decline. So gun control has costs. Costs measured in lives lost, psychological damage to the victims, and in property stolen or destroyed. Some of the costs of gun control can be measured, much cannot.
We can, with some supercomputer time, calculate that the gun control legislation brought on by the rash of political assassinations during the 1960′s have cost at least 585,000 American lives. The true number is substantially more.
Other costs are harder to assess. Victims reported 17,190 forcible rapes in 1960, when surveys found the reporting rate was 18 percent. There were 109,060 rapes reported in 1991, when surveys found the reporting rate had fallen to only 13 percent. What is the cost of an 850% increase in rape associated with the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 and the State and municipal gun laws? I cannot say what the dollar loss has been I can tell you it has been enormous.
The incidence of robbery also went sky high when poorly considered gun controls were instituted. In 1963 the United States saw only 107,840 robberies. By the peak of gun control mania there were almost seven times as many robberies; 687,730. Since more permissive gun laws began to be enacted in the early 1990′s, robbery numbers have fallen to 354,396, far more than we had before gun control mania struck but gun control mania is still with us.
Statisticians tell me the current cost of existing gun laws is more than $500 billion a year; without putting a dollar value on the excess number of lives lost as a result of those laws.
So gun control advocates demand a cure for a problem that is curing itself as more and more of the restrictive gun laws that created the problem are softened. The demand for laws that have, at least 22,420 times, resulted in far more criminal violence, is irrational and irresponsible. Some, and I am one of them, would characterize the most extreme gun control advocates as insane.
But by and large, people advocate restrictive gun laws because they believe it would be a cheap remedy for a perceived problem. And since few gun control advocates own guns, a remedy that would cost them nothing at all.
Stranger
Because they’re anti-American, treasonous, traitorous, homo, pieces of sub-human, braind-washed, monkey vomit filth? Maybe?
Peurile logic. If we have gun control there will be fewer guns and consequently less crime. The same type of thinking drives tax policy: higher tax rates equal greater revenue. Or nutrition: if 1 milligram of Vitamin E is good for you, ten milligrams are ten times as good for you.
Many of them are straight, probably most of them. The Pink Pistols are explicitly gay, and our on our side. They also get a lot more flak from liberals for endorsing self-defense rights than they do from conservatives for being gay. I don’t think conflating homosexuality with the disarmament crowd accomplishes anything useful. All the rest of your words are spot-on, though.
I thought the first batch of gun control laws were intended to protect the Klan.
“A populace cannot rally against a bad government without free speech, and will fail without the right to bear arms to protect free speech.” - Jack )me)
I can accept that.
The totalitarian impulse is very strong on the left, and many would like nothing more than to toss aside the Bill of Rights, nullify our constitutional republic, and enslave us in a manner not unlike what happened to those unfortunate souls who resided in the USSR last century. The problem for them is that, if they actually tried it, we’d kill every last one of them. They know this and so they agitate for the disarming of the citizenry. Then, in addition to the Malevolent Left, are the millions of ordinary leftwing ignoramuses who swallow their propaganda without regard to the data and end up supporting gun control because “guns kill people.” It’s become one of the core tenets of the secular religion known as leftism. Hey, WWCD? (What would Castro do?)
We all saw in the last election that voters don't vote based on intelligent analysis, but on sound bites fed to them, skin color, who promises them the most plunder from their fellow citizens, etc. All the facts in the world don't matter to people who are either too stupid or too idealogically driven to make rational decisions.
It is weird, I don’t know anyone personally that wants to disarm citizens, even my crazy sister in Ca.
It goes back to the fundamental difference between the Democrat leaders and the Republican leaders. The Democrats have listened to the social scientists. The Republicans still listen to political scientists. The Democrats take advantage of people’s fear. To fearful people, who each get a vote in our democracy, guns are scary. To us, guns aren’t scary. To us, this is a freedom, Second Amendment issue. Why should we not take advantage of fearful people’s fear? Ideally, we should build up their courage, but all of our freedom may be gone by the time we shape them up. Take advantage of their fear. If it’s OK for the Democrats, then it’s OK for us.
“Understand yourself and understand your opponents, and in one hundred battles, you will not be defeated.”
Useful idiots want gun control until they are a victim of a crime and couldnot protect thier families, politicians want gun control because it is a threat to thier treasonist government.
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