Posted on 11/13/2012 12:48:04 PM PST by Goldwater Girl
Could be- I saw a video of the local REC chair supporting West. Don’t recall his name. But he is mistaken- whoever he is.
There is so much misinformation floating around!
the darkest pit is not impervious to the faintest glimmer of light. Bring the light of truth to the dark evil of fraud and deception. This injustice must not, will not stand. Wemust be courageous and demand justice. If the vote is not sacred nothing is safe.
The Fort Pierce Mayoral race is still undetermined, it’s not just West.
Yes- and those numbers changed too much, also. Still within the .5% margin to trigger an automatic machine recount- which I believe they are going to do tomorrow.
All those number shifts not only exceed the state regulations for “acceptable error rate” (.00002%) but I think the federal law (HAVA) has the same standard. I think that’s why the state is coming down to supervise. If her memory cards are truly faulty, it will show on the precinct vote compared to the sign in sheets. Then they need to handcount the ballots, and settle this thing!
I just wish West had better legal advice, If he really has all the millions on hand the media claims he does, he can buy a true expert in Florida law. Like Richard Coates, or Mike DeGrande or Bucky Mitchell. Someone who knows better than to file a contest action before the count is certified.
Look at this!! She had a press conference tonight- first she blamed the Division of Elections for the confusion. Said she wanted to count all the early votes and they told her not to. (Sure! That’s why they are racing down there to clean up her mess.)
Now she is admitting just how badly she messed up- exactly as West claimed election night.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/13/st-lucie-elections-supervisor-to-address/?partner=popular
Look at my last post!
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/rescan/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf
It isn’t possible. Massive voter fraud.
It’s time the spineless Repubs got their heads out of their behinds and did something about it.
Her complete report is 170 pages long, and shows precinct level votes for each race. The average turnout for county wide votes is 70%
St. Lucie 123,750 votes cast 175,554 eligible voters= 70%
That does not include the military ballots which will be counted statewide on Friday.
Hope that helps-
Do you have any idea why this is in “bloggers and personal”? It’s news!
More citizens are beginning to doubt our voting systems, as indeed they should. There is no audit trail for votes, and unless the count is performed before ballots have left the room and oversight of the local precinct workers, no recount has meaning. The recount simply counts what remains after those controlling the ballots have decided to retain. The most we can hope for is enough nonsense, enough ridiculous reports of counts, that a new election is called. Thus far, the 100% counts for Obama in Pennsylvania, even when the majority of black voters in California voted against same sex marriage, makes no sense. The appearance, in more the 50 precincts in "swing states" of more votes than registered voters is ludicrous. Those precincts should all have been removed from the final tabulation, if there ever was one. In truth, we have no way to extract meaningful numbers from those reported by our hodgepodge of voting mechanisms.
In most states the SEIU counts absentee ballots. Our election system used to be based upon paper ballots and local counting by precinct workers within plain view of one another. Any of the workers can check a ballot. There can be two or more counting teams, which would need to agree within a few votes. The ballots are sealed before they leave the room in which they were cast. After the count, which is the official count, the ballots are transported under guard to secure storage, never to be opened without a court order.
Any vote involving counts in computers cannot be verified. There is no “chain-of-evidence” - no audit trail with computers. I have read many proposals, IEEE papers, graduate thesis, and believe I could invalidate any count with which they were used. Read Prof. Avi Rubin's blog to see examples of such exercises. There have been thousands, fun for engineers but not for voters. Computers can help with identification, but the count must be on paper to be trusted. Yes, it might take several days for a complete count, but our citizens would have some reason to keep working, with hope that citizens will learn why a representative republic is worth being part of, even if your measure and candidate was not chosen this election. Today you are not represented. Voting is meaningless, except for the talking points raised by pundits and the state-run media, whose livelihoods are based upon explaining. Today, voting is symbollic, and claimed results decided by our managers, our community activists, via a secret process. Coordination is most likely distributed to activists in individual states so that exposure of corruption must proceed one state at a time.
All the talk about this state's voting blocks or attempts to interpret an election where the data are absolutely unverifiable is well meant, but meaningless. Some of us, mostly those in the computer industry, have known this for decades. Most citizens have a naive trust in computers. The trust that matters in a representative republic is trust in the judgment of citizens.
Some citizens, most of whom want to retain or obtain more power over federal policies, did away with paper and local counts claiming it was to assuage the TV networks, which wanted to report vote counts in real time. The networks formed a private corporation, Voter News Service, owned by CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, and CNN. Voter News Service actually counted the votes and reported the results. Today, whether or not there was chicanery in Voter News Service, our voting system so thoroughly corrupted that election managers probably take care not to deviate too much from previously reported fictitious counts. What blocks voted, in what numbers, and for whom cannot be trusted, and there is nothing that can be done to recover the real intentions of voters because there are no ballots that have secured, and no count before they were secured with which to compare a recount. Those cheating are often very clever about the techniques used from state to state.
This is not conjecture. This is a truth that those who develop secure systems, for banks, for chemical and pharmaceutical analysis, doing any kind of legitimate statistical analysis, have come to take for granted. How trustworthy are your data? Our elections do not come close because the data disappear after being generated in each precinct, leaving no verifiable hint of their content. Voting is a symbolic activity, with meaning to the naive, but meaningless if one wants to use the data to describe the intent of voters. Those filled stadiums for Romney, the attempts at polling so contrary to the vote until two days before the election, were not incompetence. When the vote is generated by political activists the actual polling done by people who actually call likely voters will have no reason to correlate. They didn't. It was not an accident. Voting today is a political process managed by those who control the process, as Stalin explained long ago.
There has been a dialog which prepared me to expect the outcome of this “election” - in parenthesis, because it was nothing of the sort. We were fed, and accepted, a story conjured up by people who knew the outcome because they controlled it. The details differ from state-to-state, but with growing certainty as the SEIU became the vote counters and Soro’s Secretary of State Project bore fruit.
In questioning the background of Barack Obama, one which remains largely concealed, many “authorities” explained that we could not know what our founders meant by the phrase “natural born citizen” because there was no definition in the Constitution. Most people accepted that explanation, clearly never having carefully read the Constitution, because our framers, explicitly, and for excellent reasons, did not include definitions in the Constitution. That is called a false flag conundrum. The Constitution contains but one refinement of a term, an exception which proves the rule. Our Constitution was written, as Madison and Chief Justice Waite explained, to depend upon our common-law and language familiar to our framers for definitions. Otherwise, the natural evolution of words will change the meaning of the Constitution.
Our rulers depend upon our ignorance for their commissions. Believing that without a definition in the Constitution, a provision's interpretation is indeterminate. Believing votes counted and reported by those who don't believe we have the intelligence to rule ourselves assumes a similar naivety. Think about how trustworthy is a poll of 100 people in a room, whose secret opinions were written on folded paper, with the paper passed out of the room to be tabulated, in secret, by people whose jobs depended upon a certain outcome. Without a local count, results have no meaning. Once out of the room, the folded papers have no validity, unless they are guarded, and unless there was an internal count, before they left the room. Our voting system does not represent our citizens. We must realize that it is a fraudulent mechanism to control us. We must fix it, or lose most of what our founders and our military gave their lives for, our freedom.
I guess the MODs took it out- I tried to put it in breaking, Florida, news and politics.
That is bad. Sometimes it works to hit abuse on your first comment to get their attention and in the message say “I posted this in “breaking, Flordia, news and politics” and now it’s in bloggers. Why? This is important news.”
etc.
I’ve seen things change if they’re alerted. I’ve also seen them say hitting abuse is the best way to get ahold of them.
Thanks for the tip- too late now, but I’ll remember that next time.
Best
GG
Oh, it’s not too late. They can change it any time. I’d ask them, it is NEWS, not chatting or bloggers, for crying out loud!
I’ve seen them change the status of articles to news later on, when asked.
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