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Why Hispanics Don’t Vote for Republicans [Clash of Core Interests]
National Review ^ | November 07, 2012 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:25:22 PM PST by Steelfish

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1 posted on 11/09/2012 3:25:24 PM PST by Steelfish
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I don’t expect this revelation will make a dent in the Bush/Rove/Rubio ‘give em amnesty’ school of thought, but its good its finally being written about.


2 posted on 11/09/2012 3:30:24 PM PST by skeeter
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I have resigned myself to the fact that my country is going down the crapper.

I don’t care.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 3:37:50 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: Steelfish
Why Hispanics Don’t Vote for Republicans
Asked and Answered

4 posted on 11/09/2012 3:40:53 PM PST by radioone
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To: Steelfish

Feliz Navidad


5 posted on 11/09/2012 3:44:06 PM PST by Lexington Green (Burn down the house.)
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my take - hispanics, like the countries they come from, are highly class-divided. they have been this way for centuries, and it found its most obvious expression with socialism and corrupt statism.

The lower classes that have fled their own countries to come to the USA are pickled in the class-warfare rhetoric and thinking. Its part of their society, government and language. So its an easy thing for them to accept Obama’s class-warfare cliches, especially on a “rich” gringo like Romney.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 3:45:10 PM PST by PGR88
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The Free Sh*t Army won this election and hispanics are part of it.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 3:45:11 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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“Twenty-nine percent of Hispanic voters were suspicious of the Republican party on class-warfare grounds — “it favors only the rich”; “Republicans are selfish and out for themselves”; “Republicans don’t represent the average person”– compared with 7 percent who objected to Republican immigration stances.”

“U.S.-born Hispanic households in California use welfare programs at twice the rate of native-born non-Hispanic households.”

These two facts shred the arguments of those who claim we need to cave on controlling our borders. They should be repeated every time the issue comes up.


8 posted on 11/09/2012 3:50:59 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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How do we re-educate them to the real Republican values, when we don't have any control over the media? If a way can be found past the Democrat propaganda media, we have a chance. Strategy, folks! We can win, if we work smarter!
9 posted on 11/09/2012 3:52:34 PM PST by Missouri gal
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There is a large number of bi-national families who live in Mexico near the U.S. border. They have U.S. and Mexican citizenship. They come across the border to give birth and collect welfare and go home to Mexico. There must be hundreds of them all claiming to live at the same U.S. address. You should see the parking lot of the county welfare office in Chula Vista. The parking lot is full of cars with Baja California licence plates. These people consider themselves to be Mexican. The only reason they want U.S. citizenship is to get the freebies. Period.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 4:01:19 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Missouri gal
How do we re-educate them to the real Republican values, when we don't have any control over the media? If a way can be found past the Democrat propaganda media, we have a chance. Strategy, folks! We can win, if we work smarter!

First step might be to have a nominee that reflects conservative values?

11 posted on 11/09/2012 4:01:25 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Missouri gal
How do we re-educate them to the real Republican values, when we don't have any control over the media? If a way can be found past the Democrat propaganda media, we have a chance. Strategy, folks! We can win, if we work smarter!

It's been done here in southern New Mexico. I've posted the below on a couple of threads. It will amaze readers who haven't seen it:

In New Mexico, Congressional district 2 occupies the southern half of the state. The boundary is a slightly WNW-ESE line south of the I-40 corridor (south of Gallup, ABQ, Santa Rosa, Clovis). Republican registration is 34%. The area includes lots of Latino voters, the oil and gas fields, Mexican border counties and rural ranchers.

Tea-party conservative Steve Pearce won re-election with 59.2% of the vote not only in the oil patch but in most counties too (The Democratic candidate was Evelyn Madrid Erhard). I'm not sure of his secret (besides hard work) but the GOPe needs to emulate this for future victories.

Democratic counties and percentages:

Republican counties and percentages: One more thing -- Lea, Eddy and Chaves counties make up SE NM Oil Patch - jobs are plentiful, "help wanted" signs everywhere, and skills bring a premium salary and benefits. These folks vote to protect their jobs and are rightfully wary of what Obama will do shut down their livelihood.

12 posted on 11/09/2012 4:05:12 PM PST by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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70-30 doesn’t mean “Hispanics” don’t vote Republican. I know lots that do and it’s because they share the same basic values, not the gimme crowd


13 posted on 11/09/2012 4:09:57 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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What's the secret? It's actually very simple, and I will leave it as an exercise for the student. You will find -- I believe -- a very similar percentage of Latinos in NM-1 as you have in NM-2. I believe you will also find that a Republican can't get elected in NM-1.

So the difference isn't one of being Latino or non-Latino, and it isn't being legal or illegal. The answer lies in what you are not showing in the map that lies in NM-1.

14 posted on 11/09/2012 4:11:50 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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This does not surprise me in the least. This whole hand wringing about “how do we win the hispanics” is an enormous waste of time. Personally, I am convinced and was even before this election that the ballot box has become a worthless lost cause. We have refused to secure our borders allowing people in who don’t give a flaming rat’s ass about the principles of liberty and the ideals this country was founded upon.

For the short term, my advice is to arm up and excercise one’s 2nd Ammendment rights as aggressively as possible.

Anyone who is white and unarmed in this coming society is probably as good as dead. Lock & Load.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 4:18:09 PM PST by MachIV
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OK. If a single, black mother of three living in a government apartment in Detroit had Will Smith ask her to come marry him and move into a mansion in Malibu with him, what do you think she would do? I think she’d be out the door with him in a minute. They don’t have any problem with people making a lot of money. Do they get jealous? Sure! We all do. So if it isn’t envy, then what is it?


16 posted on 11/09/2012 4:22:19 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: FredZarguna
I believe you will also find that a Republican can't get elected in NM-1.

They can though not since 2008 when Heather Wilson ran for Senate and lost in the primary to Pearce. Pearce lost in the general to Tom Udall, but came roaring back in 2010 to take the District 2 seat. Heather also lost the Senate seat in the general election last Tuesday.*

The answer lies in what you are not showing in the map that lies in NM-1.

I'm not going to speculate; what's your solution?

(*Heather lost to new US Senator, Martin Heinrich, who, with the help of the heavily Democratic and poverty-ridden area of northern NM and enviros in Santa Fe, is a radical left-wing nut job with documented ties to eco-terrorists (just as Obama has to the radical Bill Ayers). His comment on energy: "Oil and coal are fuels of the past."

http://newsnewmexico.blogspot.com/2012/09/heinrich-ties-to-eco-terrorists-well.html)

17 posted on 11/09/2012 4:26:14 PM PST by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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“single, black mother of three living in a government apartment in Detroit had Will Smith ask her to come marry him and move into a mansion in Malibu with him”

She’d get better free sh*t!


18 posted on 11/09/2012 4:26:51 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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in other words, Hispanics are, in general, not assimilable.
19 posted on 11/09/2012 4:26:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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I have resigned myself to the fact that my country is going down the crapper.

You are not alone. Next year, I am outta here. I am going over seas. I have had the course.

20 posted on 11/09/2012 4:28:25 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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