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1 posted on 11/08/2012 12:59:03 PM PST by EricTheRed_VocalMinority
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

it’s trending moderate as always.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 1:03:12 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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Though from when, from 2004 to 2012, 5 million R-votes stay home...then a loss is inevitable.


3 posted on 11/08/2012 1:04:13 PM PST by mkboyce
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Slightly less intensity for Obama... but we are definitely not a “center-right” country anymore. A nation that elects, then.. staring in the face of a horrendous job performance.. reelects him doesn’t qualify as “center-right.”

We’re center-left now. There’s no denying it...


4 posted on 11/08/2012 1:04:43 PM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Though when (from 2004 to 2012) 5 million R-votes stay home...then a loss is inevitable.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 1:05:39 PM PST by mkboyce
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority
I've read and re-read this, and I can't get my head around it ... it's almost like one of those "where's the dollar" problems.

Put this on a bumper sticker for us math dummies.

6 posted on 11/08/2012 1:06:17 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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It’s trending taker, not maker.
47% and growing on on some type of gov dole. That percent will go above 50% with four more years of Obama.
Decades of open borders, out of control spending, grand bargains by both sides have created a taker society.


7 posted on 11/08/2012 1:12:42 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority

Hey Bozo, you narcissistic a-hole who thinks everyone loves you, almost 58,000,000 Americans voted against you!! The majority of which hate your stinking guts!! It was not enough to overcome your MFing media and whatever voter fraud you perpetrated, but make no mistake a LOT of Americans are on to you and your ilk!!


8 posted on 11/08/2012 1:17:29 PM PST by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: EricTheRed_VocalMinority
I've read and re-read this, and I can't get my head around it ... it's almost like one of those "where's the dollar" problems.

Put this on a bumper sticker for us math dummies.

11 posted on 11/08/2012 1:20:41 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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This is a sincere question.. does analysis like that really matter when the the majority are apolitical and the Obama campaign included the MSM, et al? They could have elected a hemorrhoid president.

For example, the Hurricane Sandy coverage focused on Obama and ignored Romney. Obama acted "presidential" for the first time ever and the MSM employees swooned. Some exit-polling did show that made up minds to vote for Obama. Chris Matthews even said that he was glad the hurricane happened.. someone on the right saying a stupid think like that would be fired. But it helped Obama so no harm no foul -- except from the foul odor of the dead killed by the hurricane.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 1:24:12 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Denial isn’t a river in Egypt.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 1:25:21 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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I respectfully disagree.

As one old enough to remember prayer in public schools, a 4% illegitimate birth rate (41% in 2011), abortion illegal except in case of mother’s health, communists/socialists were pariah’s in US, never even HEARD of redistribution of wealth, gays were in closet, NO ONE cohabited outside of marriage, socialized medicine overwhelmingly rejected, no ‘Great Society’ spending, the US was the industrial wonder of the world, I can assure you that the US is far left from where she was.

We have come to accept the new ‘middle’, which is far left of the old left, as if things have always been this way. Even the standard shifts.


16 posted on 11/08/2012 1:25:42 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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“I do not believe our country is trending significantly leftward”

He’s insane.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 1:26:23 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Listen, I'm a Republican and I'm sorry to tell you. The GOP is currently a pile of crap and they blew their chance to start a reversal of the destruction of the Country by the communists Democrats. The Republican Party is a bunch of sad foolish stupid nitwits to not take a chance with Romney especially the Republican primary selected him. Lets quit the shi! and tell like it is.
22 posted on 11/08/2012 1:36:17 PM PST by Logical me
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A valuable analysis, but Romney's vote was also down.

Some elections bring massive turnout, drawing in many people who usually don't vote. While one candidate benefits most, the opponent's total also goes up. Later elections can't match that enthusiasm and the high vote count.

For example, if I'm not mistaken, Richard Nixon got more votes in 1960 when he lost than in 1968 when he won (a third party candidate may also have been a factor, though).

So yes, 2012 doesn't mark any kind of progressive surge. But the lack of enthusiasm is more general than confined to one party.

25 posted on 11/08/2012 1:58:56 PM PST by x
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Look, no personal offense meant, but you are insane. Here are the facts. During the next four years (and for years ahead) Obama will use an Executive order to create OPen Borders. There is absolutely NOTHING you or anyone else can do to stop him.

The white birth-rate in the US is flat and will remain so in the face of an economic recession/depression, falling home values, increasing cost of a college education, increasing taxation etc. Meanwhile, the muslim, hispanic and black birth-rates are sky-rocketing and will increase as more and more are added to the welfare roles as victims. Victims vote DemonRat, not GOP or Conservative.

You're wrong. It's as simple as that. The Grand Old Party is DOA. The party is over. And I will give you a few other 'Predictions' for the next four years. I may be wrong on some, but we'll see.

1. Gun confiscation.

2. Climate change taxation on carbon-derived energy sources and use.

3. New leftists appointed to SC. I assume they will be marxists.

4. 2016 National elections will be cancelled by Executive Order.

5. Israel will be eradicated by Iran.

6. US will enter a depression.

7. DemonRats will win back the House in 2014 giving them complete control over all branches of government.

8. Obama will approve amnesty for all illegals.

9. Obama will establish Open Borders.

10. Whites will be denied healthcare options in favor of minorities.

11. Obama will confiscate your retirement savings.

12. Elements of Sharia Law will be incorporated into U.S. law.

I could go on, but my fingers are bleeding.

Like I said, no personal offense meant.

26 posted on 11/08/2012 2:02:08 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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You are correct. The problem is elsewhere. Most of the electorate who vote these Communists into power leads conservative lives, and yet. They are uninformed, misinformed, easily swayed by arguments of “goodness”, prejudiced against business, and generally clueless simpletons. This is the electorate that Romney was trying to win over with his childish arguments, because they wouldn’t comprehend adult talk. Evening news, Dancing with the American Idol, Judge Judy, Hollywood movies, treat them as children, or perhaps mentally disabled adults. I don’t think that all who voted for Romney are much different from the crowd of TV addicted idiots out there.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 2:08:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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Personally, I feel like the whole election charade was a sham, a set up nomination for another unelectable GoP guy. The racist leninist in the white house never felt in any danger of losing the election because the communist machine had it rigged from the beginning, and the mass media (”fourth estate, now the fifth column”) together with corrupted primary system and whacked out Republican leadership nominated an unelectable leftist for the GoP to run against the thuggish nationalist socialist machine.

Who can possibly be elected four years from now and repair the additional damage another 4 years of these monsters will do? Nobody can fix this mess, and it is going to get much, much worse.

Hitler’s fascists nationalist socialist party won the election in 1933 in Germany. Then there was the Reichstag fire.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933
Winning an election is not a good thing for bad people. The “Progressives” are bad people and are dismantling the American republic from the inside. The latest American national “election” of president looked strikingly like elections for dictator Omar Bongo in Gabon, in some locations polling almost 100% of the vote. Be assured, the “enemies” of the election winner, those who voted against him, will be “punished”, he already promised that ahead of time.

We have marxist communists running the USA. Congress means nothing, and does nothing, except enrich its own members, trade favors with corrupt lobbyists, and spend more than they tax by a factor of 1.4 or more. Who knows where all that money is going. The rule of law is for all practical purposes gone, certainly from the notion of enforcement at the fed-gov level, courts are corrupt all the way to the SC, and the economy is kaput, employment levels lower than in the great depression, triple deficits, unsustainable 16 trillion in real debt, etc. The military is co-opted and was forced to stand down while a US ambassador and former Navy Seals were murdered, while the administration leadership watched from a drone overhead. Iran attacks American aircraft flying in international airspace and the American people are not told about it. This is a tyrannical regime.

The first republic is over. Just look at Fast and Furious, Arab Spring, Benghazi massacre, immigration amnesty by decree - our country is run by presidential decree like some African banana republic. Wealth redistribution has been mandated now on multiple occasions, by voters, by leadership, and by congress. First and Second amendment rights are routinely violated. America is becoming a tin pot communist dictatorship. There are too many egregious matters of government misconduct to mention. There have been 50 MILLION ABORTED BABIES in America, and the government wants more of that to happen. God cannot possibly be happy about such matters - traditional values of freedom, life and marriage are no longer mainstream American values.

The question to me is, will there be civil war veterans in the USA in my lifetime, or not? Will people fight for freedom and liberty, or run away? How can this tyranny be stopped?


29 posted on 11/08/2012 3:09:39 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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