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To: Mr170IQ
The problem is that there is a filing and a precinct by precinct submission verified by the judge of elections and his clerk or clerks, and very often witnessed by several attorneys or representatives of the major parties. The vote in the precinct is posted by the State's Secretary of State and I can guarantee you it is checked against what was submitted by the election judge (and others.)

So, in order for the votes to be missing, they would have to disappear throughout the day -- they could not disappear at the end of the process once the votes were tallied. If they disappeared throughout the day, how was that done right under the nose of the poll watchers, clerks, and judges of elections? It's much easier to add votes than it is to make them disappear, nobody "unstuffs" a ballot box.

I find it curious myself that I hear so many stories of huge turnout, but then discover this is a low turnout election. That was not true in my precinct in 2012, where my son was the last to vote at #1538. I third or fourth from the last to vote in 2008, and I was #1414. So our turnout was about 7% higher.

I agree, it seems weird, but I still don't see how it happens under your theory.

15 posted on 11/08/2012 12:44:37 AM PST by FredZarguna (I'm sorry, General Washington. We owed you and the men at Valley Forge so much more than this.)
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To: FredZarguna
It's much easier to add votes than it is to make them disappear, nobody "unstuffs" a ballot box.""""....

Add votes, that could happen with those reported machines that when screen punched for Romney, they went to Obama. Some reported retrying as much as 3 times until it stayed on Romney.

Internally we don't know what those machines recorded. 3 Votes for Obama, 1 for Romney.

I think something was in play with those machines for sure, because remember when it was reported that Tagg Romney has some vested interest in the voting machines?

That was, IMO, put forth by the Democrats to place blame on the Romneys, in case it were ever discovered that they had actually commited FRAUD themselves.

Democrats are just more devious than we can ever imagine, they know how to play the games with lies and deception better than anyone. Get caught, blame others.

35 posted on 11/08/2012 1:11:51 AM PST by annieokie
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To: FredZarguna

Where we vote we had to wait an hour in line. There was a line ALL DAY. We have lived here 20 years and vote EVERY TIME (primaries and all). I have NEVER, REPEAT NEVER had to wait in line. Yet we had LESS votes than in 2008. Curious, to say the least. No, the fix was in. Perhaps this explains Zero’s behavior, ESP. The first debate. He really did believe all he had to do was show up.


38 posted on 11/08/2012 1:18:01 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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