Add votes, that could happen with those reported machines that when screen punched for Romney, they went to Obama. Some reported retrying as much as 3 times until it stayed on Romney.
Internally we don't know what those machines recorded. 3 Votes for Obama, 1 for Romney.
I think something was in play with those machines for sure, because remember when it was reported that Tagg Romney has some vested interest in the voting machines?
That was, IMO, put forth by the Democrats to place blame on the Romneys, in case it were ever discovered that they had actually commited FRAUD themselves.
Democrats are just more devious than we can ever imagine, they know how to play the games with lies and deception better than anyone. Get caught, blame others.
There is not hyperbole in the claim that our voting process lacks verifiability. There once was. A few decades ago precincts, after closing their polls, sat, with representatives from each party, and counted the paper ballots as they took them from the bin, in full view of their neighbors, since poll workers were registered voters of the precinct the managed. They were a critical part of the process. Today no poll worker has any idea of how the counts are passed to the state attorneys general, or what the count actually was. The local count was once the legal value unless a recount was requested, and could be confirmed by the stored ballots.
As the precincts count ballots they are placed in secure boxes which are sent, after the count is completed, to secure vaults, never to be touched unless a recount is requested. That connection with the local hand counts becoming the official represented vote provided an audit trail - a chain of ownership for the vote. Today there is no such chain of ownership, no audit trail, and only officials with fiduciary/political interests in the outcome have any idea of the values presumably delivered from each precinct.
The reasons claimed for the changes made to the process were several, but one was the requirement by television networks for real time reporting of the results. What few citizens knew at the time was that the actual tally federal votes was performed at a network-owned corporation, Voter News Service, in New York. Most would question the propriety of having the direction of our republic established by a corporation owned by NBC, CBS, ABC, and Fox. But cheating with machines is much easier than cheating when neighbors count paper ballots in full view, sign their agreement to the final report, and see the locked ballot boxes to sealed storage.
Absentee ballots in most states are counted by SEIU employees, out of public purview. Presumably-legal observers are often treated treated with hostility and even threats. I was one of those observers in Calif. Is there any chance the SEIU employees would pass on an unauditable vote count not favorable to their future employment or salaries? Their employer the State AG, would have to require a recount, and that won't happen.
Some were surprised that Americans living in Israel voted for Romney by 89%. Israel is one of the countries that uses auditable paper ballots. Personal experience, having very liberal relatives living in Israel, US citizen Jews in Israel do not vote significantly differently from Jews in the US. Israel is a more secular country than the US. More US Jews are conservative.
The assumptions being made about why this or that group voted as they did has no foundation in real votes. We have no idea of the choices made by voters. There are no data that would satisfy the integrity requirements for real statisticians. Our voting system is designed for corruption. Every computer-based vote counting system can be compromised, and has probably been selected because the interested political classes want to preserve their ability to control elections. Today, paper ballots and local human counts might show that we are a very different nation than the media are reporting about. Their reports are preparing us for the changes some would like to impose on us as a nation. They may have succeeded, and corrupted voting processes, as simple as they seem, may be the most important tool in their armory.
I don’t think they dropped votes, I think they “flipped” Romney votes to Obama. That way all the totals showed correctly. In a close election, all you would have to do is flip 5% or one in every 20 votes. This is consistent with data showing vote totals were way up in R counties and down in the cities. They just flipped over what they needed.
It's very hard to make the votes disappear altogether because at the very least every clerk and every judge is keeping a running count throughout the day in addition to the count that the machine registers. Also, as part of the GOTV effort, there are poll watchers and poll runners who're keeping lists of exactly who has come in to vote. If the machine tally did not agree with the hand tally, or if the final tally did not agree with what was recorded by the Secretary of State, red flags would go up immediately.
The missing votes could have been changed to 0bama votes by hacking the machines I guess, but the problem is, you then still have very low turnout numbers (the total of them + us isn't changeable.)
The fact that Romney's people have not issued any court challenges tells me that the people on their rolls for GOTV pretty much agree with the counts recorded by the Secretary of State in the various states. So, the only real possibility is Republican votes were changed. But, if so, 0bama's numbers would have to actually be down by at least 13,000,000. That doesn't seem very realistic to me.
I'm really just completely baffled by these turnout numbers...