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The GOPís horrible California nightmare
http://www.salon.com ^ | Wednesday, Nov 7, 2012 | By Andrew Leonard

Posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:44 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Republicans are having a bad day. But it’s going to get a lot worse when they look beyond the White House and U.S. Senate and fully absorb what just happened in California. The future of American politics — a majority-minority coalition handing complete political power over all branches of government to Democrats — is written here for anyone to see, in big, bold, rainbow colored letters.

California, reports the San Francisco Chronicle, may have delivered the most unexpected news in a night full of surprises:

California Democrats appear to have picked up a supermajority in both houses of the state Legislature Tuesday night, a surprise outcome that gives the party the ability to unilaterally raise taxes and leaves Republicans essentially irrelevant in Sacramento.

If preliminary results hold, 2012 will mark the first time in 80 years that either political party in California has enjoyed super-majority control. Republicans everywhere should be paying close attention. Because the demographic trends that led to Obama’s reelection — the increasing diversity of the electorate, the relative liberalism of the youth vote, the declining influence of old white males — made their national debut in California in the late 80s and early 90s. The rest of the nation is just catching up.

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bloodbath; california; decline; election
America has passed the tipping point toward decline and fall. It is over but for the actual suffering. I hate to post an article from the evil "Salon" but when you are right you are right. The California outcome from the California demographics is just a hint of things to come nation wide.

We are doomed.

It was a good run. Pray and God Bless. We could not keep the Republic we were given. I am proud that the USA lasted longer than most.

You will not recognize this nation in 4 years.

1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:30:54 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

A big “thank you” from Obama to the GOP for shoving another RINO down our throats to lose to him. Another big “thank you” from Obama to all Conservatives who sat home and did not vote, or who voted 3rd party. Obama could not have won it without you.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:32:16 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I think it’s California that’s in for the nightmare.

Will make for interesting spectating.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:34:21 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Reagan should be reburied at Arlington Nat’l Cemetery.
CA is screwed.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:35:24 PM PST by rfp1234
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Republicans everywhere should be paying close attention.”

Americans everywhere should be paying close attention to the Economic outcome is.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 1:35:42 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I think you overestimate the numbers of conservatives that stayed home or voted third party. For instance, I don’t personally know of a single one.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:39:26 PM PST by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

America will remain a two party system, the Democrats and China.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 1:39:41 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Gluttons for punishment.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I don’t recognize it now.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 1:40:57 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

California has just become a one-party state, not unlike its neighbor to the south, Mexico. Repubs in their supreme wimpiness have handed the state over.

The nation yesterday did the same thing, the evidence just isn’t as visible yet as it is in CA.

From here on, the Repubs are irrelevant. They gave it all away trying to be nice guys and buying into the idea of being “liberal-lite”......

As in a previous post - bye-bye USA......


9 posted on 11/07/2012 1:42:28 PM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Going the way of Detroit.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 1:45:59 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

When the US collapses we will balkanize into what is (rather simplisticly) red and blue America. I think it would be better to start the process early to keep the Californian parasites from flooding into Texas.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 1:46:02 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

America has not had a truly representative government in over a hundred years. “If voting would make a difference, the wouldn’t let us do it.”


12 posted on 11/07/2012 1:50:10 PM PST by Misterioso ("Do you like Ayn Rand?" "Kinda, how 'bout you?" "Well, I grew beyond her." "Oh, me too, just today.")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I disagree with this, in the sense that CA will show where liberal policies go faster than any other state. But whether anyone pays attention, that’s another story.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 1:51:57 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

America has not had a truly representative government in over a hundred years. “If voting would make a difference, the wouldn’t let us do it.”


14 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:26 PM PST by Misterioso ("Evil requires the sanction of the victim." ¬Ė Ayn Rand)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Funny how the article was presented.

Salon presented this as bad for the GOP. Sort of vindictive. Sorry Salon, but the GOP was essentially dead in California to begin with. They functioned as a check for excessive spending and taxation.

No, Salon. This is bad for California. The GOP didn’t have the ability to change policy in California, just to keep the craziness to a minimum.

Salon is acting like a rebellious teenager who just ran away from home. It feels good at first, lashing out at those who kept you in line. Free to do as you want.
Then the money runs out.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:33 PM PST by kidd
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

This isn’t a nightmare for the gop. California was lost years ago. This is going to be a nightmare for residents of California. There is NO WAY a democratic controlled government, super majority or not, is going to deliver fiscal sanity and prosperous times for that state. Quite the opposite. Democrat ideas and legislation has never worked in the past, present, and still won’t work for the future.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 1:53:09 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

—and who would your winning candidate have been ,who could have got the ABCCBSNBCNYTWPCNN Democrat machine into neutral—??


17 posted on 11/07/2012 1:55:18 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Misterioso

California will have Earthquake Sandy one of these days and the show will be over.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 1:55:54 PM PST by Misterioso ("Evil requires the sanction of the victim." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Well, today is the 95th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution...


19 posted on 11/07/2012 1:55:54 PM PST by Argus
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
The Union is dead, and now it's time to salvage whatever we can of a nation that our founding fathers envisioned. We have to take the revolutionary action that's needed to even have a chance at saving anything. Like-minded Conservative states need to start working together for closer ties in preparation of surviving as independent nations, or building a new union based on our current disregarded Constitution. Let the liberal states destroy themselves, but don't let those who destroy them seek refuge in any new union or they will destroy it just the same.

It's time for states that still have common sense leaders to rid themselves of the enormous and unconstitutional federal government. We are collapsing regardless, but lets do it on our own terms instead of waiting for it to catch many individuals and states unprepared even though everyone can see it coming.

We can't keep lying to ourselves and thinking we will be able to solve our problems in the broken system we have. We also can't survive Obama for another term, and we will end up worse off if we just sat idly by as we collapse.

20 posted on 11/07/2012 1:57:02 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (We must start working outside the broken, corrupt, and unconstitutional system to save this nation.)
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To: Arlis

California has just become a one-party state, not unlike its neighbor to the south, Mexico.


Geesh! Howdidthathappen??? The invasion is total for one State. That is America’s future.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 1:58:31 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

This is bad for the GOP because of the liberals that will be climbing on our backs and shouting “Forward!”. Get to work you angry white guys, a “reresentative of diversity”will be depending on you.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 2:04:35 PM PST by BRK
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To: kidd

I don’t see a supermajority of RATS in nutjob California as a bad thing. They’ll go do stupid RAT stuff, ruin the state and need an intellectual bailout from Republicans.

I do weep for the citizens of that state.... They are nuts. BUT at least they’ll have to wear condoms in pornos made in California now....


23 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:08 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Unless you want America to be like CalifornicatingU land, the rest of America needs to separate this blue state pos’s from your money.

Start a boycott, buycott or avoidcott with the Blue States.

Don’t buy a product made or raised in a blue state unless you have proof its owners are not left wingers.

Don’t vacation in, or have conventions or business meetings in, Democrat blue states. Start with Nevada until the casino bosses get rid of Reid and send him home to have more time with his family.

Don’t visit CalifornicatorU land. Don’t go to Follywood movies and stay away from our products except those produced or raised by conservatives.

Avoid NY City like it has the plague. It has the terminal Bloomberg mental illness.

The Blue Staters hate you, your religion, your belief system, and your priorities in life, like your family members and friends. Let the Blue Staters try to live without your $’s.

Let the blue states sink on their own!

Save your charity $’s for red state people when disasters hits their area.

http://boston.com/news/special/politics/2012/general/us-president-election-results-2012.html


24 posted on 11/07/2012 2:09:32 PM PST by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

California has slipped into an abyss from which it will never recover. Any Californians with an ounce of integrity left should pack up and leave the state before it utterly collapses economically and morally. California will quickly become a banana republic run by corrupt cleptocrat officials who run a society of peons.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 2:15:59 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Please pass the popcorn.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:38 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: NYRepublican72

Diving held long into the abyss.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:54 PM PST by CityCenter (Presidential terms are 4 years, eternity is forever.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

What was that book..Lord of the Flies?


28 posted on 11/07/2012 2:17:56 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I’m not so glum.

The Democrats overreach when in full control, just like the Republicans did. They get fat, lazy, think they deserve everything and own nothing. They will sow the seeds of their own destruction at the same time they systematically destroy California.

The people in California have now received the government they deserve.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 2:22:23 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: lowbridge

“This isn’t a nightmare for the gop. California was lost years ago. This is going to be a nightmare for residents of California.”

Exactly. I intend to sit back and watch and do a little “see, I told you so” to liberals.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 2:25:36 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: kidd

You don’t get it. 40 years ago California was a bedrock Republican state. Reagan was Governor 40 years ago.

California is now a one-party communist strong hold. It only took 40 years from Reagan to solid communist state.

Well, Regan was US president 20 years ago. The US has about 20 years to go before it is solid blue due to the maturing and colonizing of the states by Hispanics.

The point is, 40 years ago we had Reagan. We stayed Republican long enough to have relatively right leaning governors in Deukmajian and Pete Wilson. Wilson’s last election was 1996, and by 2010, California is solid liberal/socialist/commie thanks to minorities.

Well, GW’s last election was 2004, that puts the USA as deep liberal/commie by about 2025.

Just as there are many conservative counties in one-party California, there will be plenty of conservative states in one-party commie USA.

The Demographics are going to bury us. The GOP is dead and by 2025, the USA will be a one-party Democrat nation. That is the jist of the Salon article, although my spin is to put dates to it, based on California’s fall.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 2:35:09 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Misterioso

You have a good point with earthquake Sandy. It is definitely going to show up the takers and their enablers.

I think God literally that I fled the San Francisco bay area 5 years ago. Now, to flee this communist state.

I was keen to move to Virginia. Now, not so much after they have gone deep purple.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 2:37:27 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Bingo. That is the point. It is not as if right leaning 60’s era Californians just woke up one day and embraced socialism. The state has been colonized for 50 years by New England liberals and foreign immigrants who bring their socialist backgrounds with them.

This is America’s future. Low birth rates for whites, massive immigration rates thanks to Ted Kennedy (may he burn in hell).

That is America’s future. The parasites already outnumber the workers. It is only going to get rapidly worse.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 2:40:34 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Lorianne

The GOP is dead—Now they exist as a symbolic straw man—to set up fools to be beaten. They are gone! We are a one party state now— No Republican will ever sleep in the White House! lets work to give control of the house to the Democrats and change the Laws so Obama can run for a 3rd and 4th term. Thank you George Bush! We may well be out of work but at least we will have health care and food stamps!


34 posted on 11/07/2012 2:41:47 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
How did the GOP ensure that Romney won the nomination via winning the most votes in the election for the nomination? How is winning the most votes for the nomination him being shoved down anyone’s throat?

It may be nice to think some big conspiracy was/is controlling it all, but how does the GOP control who runs and who wins the most nomination votes?

35 posted on 11/07/2012 2:46:28 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I have a relative who is panicking that Prop. 13 will be revoked. Has anyone heard this?


36 posted on 11/07/2012 2:48:44 PM PST by diamond6 (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/#!watch/409925)
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To: Grampa Dave

I wish I could move out of California.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 2:50:24 PM PST by diamond6 (Hulu has "The Hope and the Change" for free: http://www.hulu.com/#!watch/409925)
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To: Lorianne

Amen. If I was in California I’d think about taking my business and running away as fast as I could.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 2:51:21 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: Grampa Dave

It is interesting that you put things that way. For 3 generations we have lived in Illinois, but over the last couple of years, I have heard things like “blue staters deserve what they get” “screw blue staters” “Illinois should just die” or the same about any blue state. Our state happens to very very red, with the exception of Chicago.

So, now, after this election, I can sympathize with you. I say all the US can go rot. Texas and every other state. Because, like us in Illinois, we are affected by a small tiny blip of blue on our map. It is obvious that the overwhelming part of America wants their “stuff” from the government.

Our kids are near done with school, and we have been wondering where to retire. We thought about places like Texas and the like, but after so much hatred from people like you, we know we would only be “Yankees with a u haul”

My wife and I talked last night, and even for tax reasons, it is becoming more and more evident that we will have to expatriate, but even when others in our own country think that we are guilty of something because of association, I must conclude that they are right, and in that same model say you are guilty by association of being part of what once was the greatest nation on earth, but is fast becoming nothing more than a university experiment in diversity and jingoism.

It is quite clear though, that at this point, we are the enemy of the nation. We are hated by the left because we are white and what some would consider wealthy, and we are hated by the right because I am not a native Texan, or I’m not Baptist, or whatever reason. Why stay in a nation where we are not wanted any longer? Why pay one of the worlds highest tax rates where we feel we are just being milked for our cash?

My wife being German, we may go back to there, where I was stationed, or maybe just vacation there for a few years. We are considering moving to the Philippines as well, or perhaps Shanghai to live out our years. But, you and those like you over the years have helped solidify the notion that there is no more United States of America. You can hunker down with your guns and wait for the taxman to take all you have. We are thinking that we are going to go off the grid and wish our friends in the US the best of luck (even if they hate us because we lived in a blue state).

Sour Grapes? Maybe, but I’m too old to care anymore. I worked hard all my life, had our company closed up by IBEW and the Plumbers union last year, have no desire to start another business in this climate, and feel alienated by both people like you, and liberals.

Oh, i’m sure everyone in Texas is packin 30 handguns, a hundred rifles and has water for a year. When they start sending drones your way because of tax evasion, you’ll wish you had vacated as well. I learned in the service, you need to know when to stand your ground, and when to retreat. It’s time my wife and I started considering an exit strategy.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 2:54:14 PM PST by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

This is why I am packing up and leaving heading for better environs


40 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:14 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

The election was not because of a RINo, but it was that we aren’t modern. Today’s GOP is as modern as a Model T. We need to stop focusing on SOCIAL ISSUES and ILLEGALS and return to the big tent...and rebuild the GOP in the Northeast and in Florida and on the WEST COAST!


41 posted on 11/07/2012 3:10:03 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Conservatives needs to listen to the people...Social issues lost votes for the GOP)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Your “salvage” idea sounds good. We’re in a southern red state; in fact, a huge chunk of the country is made up of red states. We do need to cooperate and share with each other as much as possible (barter, etc.) Know any websites?


42 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:48 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Uhmmm...GOP is dead as of last night. Conservative movement- done moving.
43 posted on 11/07/2012 3:18:12 PM PST by jgophel
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To: ExCTCitizen

Is “modern” passing laws that legalize, say, a transgendered man using the women’s restroom at a university and exposing himself (under the guise of changing to a “her”) to little girls. Of course, the school is helpless to stop him/her because it’s not PC to ban him/her from the women’s restroom. - Then, there’s the matter of the woman who goes into the military expressly to get herself a “penis” attached through surgery that we have to pay for. - Now, the President can do NOTHING to stop abortion; but never mind common sense. Democrats have screamed “Republican men want to take your precious abortion away from you! . . and the Catholic Church doesn’t want to pay for insurance for your abortion or for Sandra Fluck’s free conraceptives!” - Oh, and yeah, by all means, no country has the right or need to control its borders (except Mexico, of course).


44 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:23 PM PST by Twinkie (REMEMBER BENGHAZI !!!!)
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To: diamond6

Prop 13 will not be revoked all at once, silly. First they’ll exclude commercial property, that will allow them to pay for another wave of wasteful spending. The money from that will run out in about 5 to 10 years, so then they’ll look at multi-family rental housing which will give them another quick high and then run out in 2 to 5 years. Only then will they slam the coffin lid closed and start piling the dirt on homeowners.

Like the old joke says “ a pig that special, you don’t eat him all at once.”


45 posted on 11/07/2012 3:29:28 PM PST by Go_Raiders (The wrong smoke detector might just kill you - http://www.theworldfiresafetyfoundation.org)
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To: esoxmagnum

Well I live in California and can say that I agree with all that you’ve said. There really in no where to run to in the US anymore as they will all soon be like Cali and Illinois, much sooner than people think.

Also, once Cali and other blue states blow up who do you think they’ll be looking to to pay for all the pensions and welfare from those states? Why it’ll be those red states that are still somewhat solvent! It’ll come as a rude surprise to all those Texans pointing and laughing when O comes to them with a gun and his hand out to force you to pay for the blue state follies.

I’d like to bolt from the US as well but looking around can’t quite see any place that looks even remotely stable 10 or 20 years down the line. They all look like s#$% and it’s no fun to be a foreigner when the SHTF in a country not your own.

Good Luck and I wish you well on your journey!


46 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:24 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Lorianne
I think it’s California that’s in for the nightmare. Will make for interesting spectating.

Yeppers. Our economy was circling the drain already. Now it is spinning fast. The dominoes have begun to topple with cities going bankrupt. Stockton, San Bernardino come to mind. Others are close behind. Like Los Angeles and Oakland. I try pointing some of the danger signs out to libs of my acquaintance - mainly teachers and other gvt employees - and get a blank stare. The plan seems to be liquidate all assets and redistribute the take to the unions. They see no further than that.

47 posted on 11/07/2012 3:42:47 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: diamond6

I have not heard of Prop 13 being revoked, but they can do anything they want now that they have a 2/3rds majority in the house and senate. They can’t change the California Constitution, but they can do anything else. Prop 13 that limited kept property taxes low and prevented large annual increases in property taxes, is just a normal ballot proposition, not a change to the California Constitution. The California House and Senate could overturn it tomorrow if they wanted to and if Jackass Brown would sign it.


48 posted on 11/07/2012 8:08:33 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Dear California Democrats...and I say this in the heart of the Inland Empire...you broke it, you own it.


49 posted on 11/07/2012 8:11:00 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: ExCTCitizen
Today’s GOP is as modern as a Model T. We need to stop focusing on SOCIAL ISSUES and ILLEGALS and return to the big tent...and rebuild the GOP in the Northeast and in Florida and on the WEST COAST!

Romney was that guy, so why didn’t he win? He loved queers more than Teddy, and cap and trade and abortion your dream candidate.

50 posted on 11/07/2012 11:12:08 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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