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The Ramifications of Congress's Internet Sales Tax
ATR ^ | 2012-08-01 | Kelly William Cobb

Posted on 08/02/2012 8:11:39 AM PDT by 92nina

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Federal Internet sales tax bills would burden taxpayers and usher in the second coming of taxation without representation in America.
1 posted on 08/02/2012 8:11:44 AM PDT by 92nina
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To: 92nina

This administration is working overtime to put small business out of business. An internet tax would drive many companies out of business completely. I believe this is what they want.


2 posted on 08/02/2012 8:16:51 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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The proper Internet tax method would be to:

1) have each state publish as single internet tax rate expresed as a percentage of sales
2) Determine the tax by averaging the tax rates of the states in question (shipping location and billing location)
3) seller/shipper collects the tax
4) sends half of the tax amount to each state

The net effect will be for shippers to move operations and jobs to lower tax states. Likewise, individuals will want to move to lower tax states.


3 posted on 08/02/2012 8:18:43 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 92nina

List of Taxes that exist today

TAXES:
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and
local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS:
“Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family.”
They’re out of control
What happened?


4 posted on 08/02/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: 92nina

List of Taxes that exist today

TAXES:
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and
local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

COMMENTS:
“Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and only one parent had to work to support the family.”
They’re out of control
What happened?


5 posted on 08/02/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: 92nina
Federal Internet sales tax bills would burden taxpayers and usher in the second coming of taxation without representation in America.

The largest burden would fall on small business's that have internet sales. To subject small online retailers to the tax collecting efforts from 50 different states and who knows how many municipalities will be a disaster.

6 posted on 08/02/2012 8:21:15 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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This isn't the only thing threatening business in the country. Under the radar now, states are trying to concoct ways of making out of state businesses file income tax returns in states where the business has no presence. Under the concept of Economic Nexus, an out of state company will be dragged into a court to fight a tax assessment. This is a no-cost maneuver for states as their revenue division are already in place and assessing in-state companies.
7 posted on 08/02/2012 8:24:55 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: sunny48

And the telephone tax was the 1st tax and to this day remains the most ubiquitous in terms of number of taxes on services.


8 posted on 08/02/2012 8:26:46 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 92nina

Such a ‘tax’ could become a nightmare for businesses.

They could eventually have to establish appropriate taxation for individual states, for individual counties, for individual municipalities that have different tax rates.

Documenting the various taxes could cost the small businesses more than they might get from some sales.

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This is another idea that looked good on paper but has not been thought through.

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Oh yeah more tax money. So what if it ends up killing many small internet businesses. They probably didn’t need to exist anyway. [/s]


9 posted on 08/02/2012 8:26:56 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: sunny48
Apropos of your list of taxes, an example of how the system is gamed.
10 posted on 08/02/2012 8:28:23 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ALPAPilot

Even walking into a store here in Pennsylvania and trying to figure out how much sales tax you owe is next to impossible because the law is so complicated and riddled with exemptions.

Most clothing is not taxed. Sewing thread is taxed. Unless you tell the clerk you are going to use it to make clothing, in which case it is not taxed (I am not making that up!) Six or more donuts are not taxed as they are assumed to be grocery, but five or less are taxed as it is assumed you will eat them on-premesis and hence they are restaurant food.

The tax rate is 6%, unless you are in Allegheny County where it is 7%. How is an online retailer half a continent away supposed to keep track of all that? Local shop owners who were born and raised here can barely do it.


11 posted on 08/02/2012 8:28:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 92nina

This will compel people to either buy local, shop by phone, or do without.


12 posted on 08/02/2012 8:29:23 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: sunny48

100 years is what happened. How many would like to live in 1912?


13 posted on 08/02/2012 8:32:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: RC2

Except that is isn't just the current administration. Many on the GOP side of both Chambers are supporting the idea.


14 posted on 08/02/2012 8:32:36 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Westbrook

That would be horrible...why?


15 posted on 08/02/2012 8:34:43 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Proving once again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


16 posted on 08/02/2012 8:34:46 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Westbrook

The government wants at least two out of those three things.

Or maybe all three.

Government hates the Internet.


17 posted on 08/02/2012 8:35:05 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: 92nina

I’ll just come right out and say it. I EXPECT every vendor on the internet to subvert, avoid, not report, or to defray any no-value added sales tax to their products sold online.

I don’t care if it becomes law, I expect them to find a way around it. I’m not going to subsidize a government skimoff of their efforts and mine.

Business, do what you need to do. We both have a common enemy now. I don’t care about the ‘brick and mortar’ argument or any of that tripe. And, I don’t care if the government gets its due. They aren’t a friend of freedom and they certainly don’t earn their keep.


18 posted on 08/02/2012 8:37:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RC2

It’s not just dems and this administration.One of my states’ senators, Lamar Alexander (R), has been pushing this for years.Taxation is out of control and needs to be reduced, but neither side will do it


19 posted on 08/02/2012 8:38:14 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In NY the DMV tacked in a temporary(HA!) $50 surcharge on car registrations to subsidize mass transit. No doubt quite a few tree huggers and “train brains” are making out like bandits.


20 posted on 08/02/2012 8:39:39 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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