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House GOP Caves, Will Fund ObamaCare
American Clarion ^ | July 24, 2012 | Bob Ellis

Posted on 07/24/2012 3:21:18 PM PDT by WXRGina

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1 posted on 07/24/2012 3:21:24 PM PDT by WXRGina
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2 posted on 07/24/2012 3:24:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: WXRGina
Boehner, a tower of jello, just trying to thrown the election to Obama.
3 posted on 07/24/2012 3:25:37 PM PDT by Truth29
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This just makes me sick. It’s like a flippin’ nighmare watching this government and those who are on “our side” behaving like Demonrats!


4 posted on 07/24/2012 3:28:10 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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Republicans in the House can’t change anything until after the election, because the Dems control the Senate. Only IF we flip the Senate will a new Congress be able to kill Obamacare after Jan. 1.


5 posted on 07/24/2012 3:29:00 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: WXRGina
When will Americans realize that we don't have a two party system? We have a one party system with two different wings or factions.

But, when push comes to shove, they are ONE PARTY. The geniuses (or are they disruptors?) on FR who insist that we have have to vote for the Republican regardless of who he is, won't admit that nothing will change as long as we keep politicians from either party in office. The outcome of the current election will have zero impact.

Any real conservative with any guts at all will dump the GOP and work passionately for a real conservative party. Perhaps it can grow out of the Tea Party as long as we keep the GOP politicos out.

6 posted on 07/24/2012 3:29:25 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It would behoove conservatives to refer to themselves as RINOs, being that, Republicans do not seem concerned with principles that could be deemed conservative.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 3:30:03 PM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Truth29

You’re MUCH too generous to him! Boehner aspires to be scum.


8 posted on 07/24/2012 3:30:38 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Jedidah

You are correct. There simply isn’t anything one can do as long as Harry Reid is the Senate leader. At this stage, just over 3 months until the election, I don’t feel like giving the Dems any sort of opportunity to change the current momentum for our side. Any threat of government shutdowns or sob stories from targeted groups only hurts us at this stage. We want to fight about the big issues, which are in our favor.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 3:34:54 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: WXRGina

Much of what happens in the lame duck session will be dictated by what happens in November.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 3:35:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WXRGina

The BEST outcome for America is to shut down the Federal Government, and have a do-over to re-establish a REAL Constitutional Repulic......where Term Limits and non-Union Employees are the Rule.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 3:39:25 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

obamacare is the law of the land, folks, and you might as well get used to it. Just think, for the rest of your life you’re going to hear the word “obamacare”. With the republican party in charge you’ll never hear the word “impeach” or “birth certificate” or “dictator” or any other derogative word about the one. So, I guess if you want to stop hearing the word “obamacare” anytime in the future, it’s time to start building a third, and real, conservative party.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 3:40:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Jedidah
If Obama gets reelected, it matters not whether the GOP gains control of the Senate or not--presuming the Reps won't have 60 votes. And Obama has the veto power.

Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.

13 posted on 07/24/2012 3:43:24 PM PDT by kabar
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Unless a special provision is put into the bill to fund the government past Sept. 30 that expressly prohibits funding specifically for the Obamacare regulation that requires health-care plans to cover, without cost-sharing, sterilizations, artificial contraceptives and abortifacients, the House Republicans, by funding implementation of Obamacare, will also be funding implementation of that regulation.

The RATS would love to see that. It would be DOA in the Senate, and the Pubs would either have to cave, or see the government shut down a month before the election, for which they would be blamed. Talk about snaching defeat from the jaws of victory!

14 posted on 07/24/2012 3:47:16 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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“Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.”

Exactly. The house has voted to defund it numerous times. We need a senate to let it come to a vote and a president that will sign it.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 3:51:16 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jedidah

BS.

The House can defund it. Spending bills must originate in the House.

Obviously, when they voted to repeal it, that was just a bunch of hot air.

When the time comes to effectively repeal it without the Senate, by defunding it, they’re a bunch of spineless pansies.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 4:05:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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The House can defund it. Spending bills must originate in the House.

So how do spending bills become law?

17 posted on 07/24/2012 4:09:50 PM PDT by kabar
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Spending bills become law by passage through both houses of congress and a signature by the President. But that doesn’t change the fact that, if the house does not originate the bill, there is no bill for the Senate to vote on or for the President to sign.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 4:13:34 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: DuncanWaring

Of course spending bills must originate in the House.

Are you seriously suggesting that House passage is all that in necessary? They also have to pass the Senate, which is impossible now.

So there’s no reason to waste energy on the impossible, when the possible is directly before us in November.

We have a chance to reverse this thing, but not if we’re distracted by futile arguments.


19 posted on 07/24/2012 4:24:51 PM PDT by Jedidah
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What the hell happened to the party of Ronald Reagan

It ceased being the party of Reagan - if it ever truly was - in 1989, once Bush I took over. Except for the Gingrich-led takeover of Congress, the GOP has mostly been pathetic, like they were before Reagan came along.

20 posted on 07/24/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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