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House GOP Caves, Will Fund ObamaCare
American Clarion ^ | July 24, 2012 | Bob Ellis

Posted on 07/24/2012 3:21:18 PM PDT by WXRGina

Well, that didn’t last long. Barack Obama has been busy shooting his re-election campaign in the foot, and the constitutional contempt of the U.S. Supreme Court has handed Romney the best hope he’s ever had at winning in November, and lately I’ve been wondering what the bunch of idiots who run the Republican Party these days would do to, as they so often do, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Just yesterday it looked like Republicans in the U.S. House might have the brass to block the unconstitutional ObamaCare monstrosity by defunding it–the only legal tool left to protect the freedom of the American people after being sold out by John Roberts and the Supreme Court last month.

Now, it seems “Republicans” in the House have misplaced their testicles as well as their spine, and are now stating they will fund this abomination. And if they will fold so easily on something this important, can anything they say about sticking with something or other tough-talk be believed?

From CNS News:

CNSNews.com) –When asked whether the House Republicans would permit or not permit funding for Obamacare in whatever legislation is enacted to fund the government after Sept. 30–when the current funding legislation runs out–House Speaker John Boehner responded that “our goal would be to make sure the government is funded,” thus indicating that House Republicans do plan to fund implementation of Obamacare past Sept. 30.

Unless a special provision is put into the bill to fund the government past Sept. 30 that expressly prohibits funding specifically for the Obamacare regulation that requires health-care plans to cover, without cost-sharing, sterilizations, artificial contraceptives and abortifacients, the House Republicans, by funding implementation of Obamacare, will also be funding implementation of that regulation.

If despite having some of the most pathetic excuses for “Republicans” imaginable on the ballot in 2012 we still manage to hand control of OUR government to Republicans in the executive and legislative branch, we simply must get rid of worthless buffoons like John Boehner in the House leadership. Michele Bachmann would make a great speaker, or perhaps Allen West. But with America teetering on the edge of ruin, if God mercifully gives us a reprieve in November, we must not squander that reprieve on the likes of John Boehner.

What the hell happened to the party of Ronald Reagan, the man who stared down the nuclear-armed Soviet Union and brought it crashing to defeat? What happened to the party of Reagan which managed to turn America around from the Jimmy Carter malaise, even with Democrats in control of congress? What happened to the Republican Party that won control of congress for the first time in 40 years in 1994 and cut the knees from under the welfare state for the first time in decades? When did the Republican Party become such a country club of cheese-eating surrender monkeys? Do we need to send the GOP a huge shipment of those testosterone pills I’m always hearing about in commercials? Do Boehner and the boys need a truck-load of Ageless Male? Maybe they need to borrow some stones from Michele Bachmann. What a bunch of pansies!

If this monstrosity is allowed to go into place, it will almost certainty tip America over the edge and on a downward spiral that will be unrecoverable. ObamaCare was designed to destroy the last vestiges of free market health care, and once more people go on the public health care tit, it will be almost politically impossible to ever get them off again. Religious freedom will be trampled along with our most basic right to buy what we want, and not buy what we don’t want.

It remains to be seen whether there are enough Americans not yet on the federal tit to elect the candidates most likely move this nation back toward its historic principles, and whether enough Americans can be distracted from the “bread and circuses” of American Idol, Facebook, Farmville and whatever bilge keeps many Americans anesthetized to the growing loss of their hard-won freedom.


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1 posted on 07/24/2012 3:21:24 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

2 posted on 07/24/2012 3:24:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: WXRGina
Boehner, a tower of jello, just trying to thrown the election to Obama.
3 posted on 07/24/2012 3:25:37 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

This just makes me sick. It’s like a flippin’ nighmare watching this government and those who are on “our side” behaving like Demonrats!


4 posted on 07/24/2012 3:28:10 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: WXRGina

Republicans in the House can’t change anything until after the election, because the Dems control the Senate. Only IF we flip the Senate will a new Congress be able to kill Obamacare after Jan. 1.


5 posted on 07/24/2012 3:29:00 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: WXRGina
When will Americans realize that we don't have a two party system? We have a one party system with two different wings or factions.

But, when push comes to shove, they are ONE PARTY. The geniuses (or are they disruptors?) on FR who insist that we have have to vote for the Republican regardless of who he is, won't admit that nothing will change as long as we keep politicians from either party in office. The outcome of the current election will have zero impact.

Any real conservative with any guts at all will dump the GOP and work passionately for a real conservative party. Perhaps it can grow out of the Tea Party as long as we keep the GOP politicos out.

6 posted on 07/24/2012 3:29:25 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

It would behoove conservatives to refer to themselves as RINOs, being that, Republicans do not seem concerned with principles that could be deemed conservative.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 3:30:03 PM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Truth29

You’re MUCH too generous to him! Boehner aspires to be scum.


8 posted on 07/24/2012 3:30:38 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Jedidah

You are correct. There simply isn’t anything one can do as long as Harry Reid is the Senate leader. At this stage, just over 3 months until the election, I don’t feel like giving the Dems any sort of opportunity to change the current momentum for our side. Any threat of government shutdowns or sob stories from targeted groups only hurts us at this stage. We want to fight about the big issues, which are in our favor.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 3:34:54 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: WXRGina

Much of what happens in the lame duck session will be dictated by what happens in November.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 3:35:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WXRGina

The BEST outcome for America is to shut down the Federal Government, and have a do-over to re-establish a REAL Constitutional Repulic......where Term Limits and non-Union Employees are the Rule.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 3:39:25 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Dr. Thorne

obamacare is the law of the land, folks, and you might as well get used to it. Just think, for the rest of your life you’re going to hear the word “obamacare”. With the republican party in charge you’ll never hear the word “impeach” or “birth certificate” or “dictator” or any other derogative word about the one. So, I guess if you want to stop hearing the word “obamacare” anytime in the future, it’s time to start building a third, and real, conservative party.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 3:40:06 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Jedidah
If Obama gets reelected, it matters not whether the GOP gains control of the Senate or not--presuming the Reps won't have 60 votes. And Obama has the veto power.

Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.

13 posted on 07/24/2012 3:43:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WXRGina
Unless a special provision is put into the bill to fund the government past Sept. 30 that expressly prohibits funding specifically for the Obamacare regulation that requires health-care plans to cover, without cost-sharing, sterilizations, artificial contraceptives and abortifacients, the House Republicans, by funding implementation of Obamacare, will also be funding implementation of that regulation.

The RATS would love to see that. It would be DOA in the Senate, and the Pubs would either have to cave, or see the government shut down a month before the election, for which they would be blamed. Talk about snaching defeat from the jaws of victory!

14 posted on 07/24/2012 3:47:16 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: kabar

“Obamacare will be implemented if Obama wins.”

Exactly. The house has voted to defund it numerous times. We need a senate to let it come to a vote and a president that will sign it.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 3:51:16 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Jedidah

BS.

The House can defund it. Spending bills must originate in the House.

Obviously, when they voted to repeal it, that was just a bunch of hot air.

When the time comes to effectively repeal it without the Senate, by defunding it, they’re a bunch of spineless pansies.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 4:05:17 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
The House can defund it. Spending bills must originate in the House.

So how do spending bills become law?

17 posted on 07/24/2012 4:09:50 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Spending bills become law by passage through both houses of congress and a signature by the President. But that doesn’t change the fact that, if the house does not originate the bill, there is no bill for the Senate to vote on or for the President to sign.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 4:13:34 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: DuncanWaring

Of course spending bills must originate in the House.

Are you seriously suggesting that House passage is all that in necessary? They also have to pass the Senate, which is impossible now.

So there’s no reason to waste energy on the impossible, when the possible is directly before us in November.

We have a chance to reverse this thing, but not if we’re distracted by futile arguments.


19 posted on 07/24/2012 4:24:51 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: WXRGina
What the hell happened to the party of Ronald Reagan

It ceased being the party of Reagan - if it ever truly was - in 1989, once Bush I took over. Except for the Gingrich-led takeover of Congress, the GOP has mostly been pathetic, like they were before Reagan came along.

20 posted on 07/24/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
A continuing resolution does exactly what it says it does ~ it continues to allow federal agencies to spend at the rate they had been spending for programs that had been authorized.

New stuff that'd never been funded doesn't get funded.

ObamaKKKare is new ~ some of the most obnoxious elements started in 2012. Even worse things are coming in 2013.

These things were not previously funded because the Democrats did not participate in the establishment of a federal budget general authorization for 2012 ~

If Boehner says they are going to fund the government, that means they are going to fund the government pretty much as it was funded in 2009, the last year for which there was a federal budget.

If the Democrats want to get ObamaKKKare funded to any degree except as elements of it might have been funded in 2009, they will have to overcome the fact that the House of Representatives voted to rescind ObamaKKKare.

Frankly, I think the Republicans are going to leave an awful lot of that law UNFUNDED ~ end of story. And then there's the upcoming election.

21 posted on 07/24/2012 4:33:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JewishRighter

So the issue is who blinks first. Do you think that the House will hold all funding hostage to the repeal of Obamacare? In the court of public opinion, this would be a loser for the Reps.


22 posted on 07/24/2012 4:36:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WXRGina

All that remains now is for Boehner and Roberts to fly to some same-sex state and get married.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 4:37:44 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: kabar
The Supreme Court told you that all the relevant parts of ObamaKKKare could be authorized under the taxing authority. That means that recission ~ and defunding ~ only requires a majority vote in the Senate, not 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.

It would be up to Obama to sign the bill, or not sign it. If he didn't sign it, ObamaKKKare would be dead anyway becaue it wouldn't be funded.

24 posted on 07/24/2012 4:38:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kabar
The Supreme Court told you that all the relevant parts of ObamaKKKare could be authorized under the taxing authority. That means that recission ~ and defunding ~ only requires a majority vote in the Senate, not 60 votes to overcome a filibuster.

It would be up to Obama to sign the bill, or not sign it. If he didn't sign it, ObamaKKKare would be dead anyway becaue it wouldn't be funded.

25 posted on 07/24/2012 4:38:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JewishRighter
You guys can harp all you want about the pubs, BUT you need to aim your ammo at ROBERTS and the evil despicable lib RATS! I Hope the American folk don't give ROBERTS a pass when he resumes. I am still mad as hell at that bastard!! I hope folk pickett Roberts in front of the court house for months. He thinks this has blown over. He probably thinks that by going to a secluded island for a few weeks or months folk here will forget all about his STAB in the back deed... DAMN SOB BENEDICT ARNOLD! Go straight to hades ROBERTS!!
26 posted on 07/24/2012 4:40:07 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Truth29
Boehner, a tower of jello, just trying to thrown the election to Obama.

Maybe the fake-tanned son of a bitch will get on TV and cry.

Worthless.

27 posted on 07/24/2012 4:43:37 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: WXRGina
There is no way the Republicans could kill Obamacare now. For Pete's sake, they're funding it for three months. It's a continuing resolution. Fighting it now would just energize Obama and his miserable base.

Go out and vote in November.

If the Republicans win the presidency and both houses of Congress and then don't do anything about Obamacare, we'll have a problem.

28 posted on 07/24/2012 4:47:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: muawiyah
No, Obamacare wouldn't be defunded. Even under a continuing resolution, the funding would be there. And much of the funding for Obamacare has already been provided.

Defunding the Already Pre-Funded Obamacare

One largely unknown fact is that $6-billion or more was immediately appropriated in the new law and approximately $105-billion more was appropriated for FY2011 and beyond. That violates the typical Congressional process of appropriations. The normal process typically involves enacting authorization bills that authorize spending, and then follows those with separate legislation that actually appropriates the money. This enables those to be balanced with other spending decisions. The PPACA contained large authorizations for future appropriations as well as containing these actual appropriations. That made it quite different from most bills, even major legislation.

To any who do not realize that over $105-billion has already been appropriated to fund Obamacare, I direct your attention to the February 10, 2011, revision of the Congressional Research Service’s paper, “Appropriations and Fund Transfers in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA),” CRS number R41301. It documents the specific provisions that I’m discussing and the magnitude of those advance appropriations.

29 posted on 07/24/2012 5:24:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Dr. Thorne

“When will Americans realize that we don’t have a two party system?”

I totally agree. This country is ruled by a republicrat oligarchy that does not really represent the people.

Those who preach the “lesser of two evils” doctrine and reject a third party as giving a win to the democrats are only ensuring this republic dies slower.


30 posted on 07/24/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: WXRGina
It’s like a flippin’ nighmare watching this government and those who are on “our side” behaving like Demonrats!

There hasn't been an "our side" since Reagan and a few early days of W. The minute McRino said we had nothing to fear from Obama was the minute my stomach turned and I knew there was no longer an "our side."

31 posted on 07/24/2012 5:34:44 PM PDT by bgill
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To: WXRGina

Boner is fail.


32 posted on 07/24/2012 3:57:16 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: bgill

Yep. That’s why I always put “our side” in quotation marks.


33 posted on 07/24/2012 3:59:17 PM PDT by WXRGina (Further up and further in!)
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To: kabar

I’m aware that stuff has been appropriated in advance. At the same time none of that stuff is up for inclusion in the continuing resolution. We have to take over the government to get rid of the ObamaKKKare stuff.


34 posted on 07/24/2012 4:09:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: BfloGuy

You are exactly right. Let’s keep this in perspective.


35 posted on 07/24/2012 4:09:15 PM PDT by Steve1789 (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -A.L.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Harping on pubs and Roberts are not mutually exclusive. Nevertheless, harping on the Republican Congressional Caucus can actually accomplish something, since they face re-election and need votes and campaign cash. Roberts does not. He’s appointed for life and you can protest until you’re blue in the face and it won’t affect him one bit. Having said that, I, too am really angry about that decision. Having listened to him describe his judicial philosophy during his confirmation hearings, I believed he was a textbook strict constructionist who would never pull a stunt like this decision, where he wanders all over the map, twists logic beyond comprehension and issues a self-contradictory monstrosity of a judicial opinion. I doubt we’ll ever know what happened behind closed doors, why this apparent conservative judge betrayed a nation that looked to him to do the right thing.


36 posted on 07/24/2012 4:16:17 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: WXRGina

No Balls Boner cries again.


37 posted on 07/24/2012 5:53:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: WXRGina

Boner and the limpwristed pubs can’t lose the House fast enough.

If they become the minority then they don’t have to try and do the hard things, “we aren’t the majority in power”...


38 posted on 07/24/2012 5:55:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: WXRGina

Of course the GOP caves in. This is a surprise?


39 posted on 07/24/2012 10:21:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Jedidah

The Senate hasn’t passed a budget in three years.


40 posted on 07/25/2012 4:15:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kabar
So how do spending bills become law?

For the last three years, they haven't.

41 posted on 07/25/2012 7:51:26 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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