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1 posted on 04/23/2012 10:23:13 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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Why? Because he’s too “white”.


2 posted on 04/23/2012 10:33:38 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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Known as the 'father of modern American radicalism,' Saul D. Alinsky (1909-1972) developed strategies and tactics that take the enormous, unfocused emotional energy of grassroots groups and transform it into effective anti-government and anti-corporate activism. ... Some of these rules are ruthless, but they work. … Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

Alinsky's second chapter, called Of Means and Ends, craftily poses many difficult moral dilemmas, and his 'tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends' is: 'you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments.' He doesn't ignore traditional moral standards or dismiss them as unnecessary. He is much more devious; he teaches his followers that 'Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.'...

"'The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,' and 'organizations must be based on many issues.' The organizer 'must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.'"

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3 posted on 04/23/2012 10:42:33 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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And, these are the same exalted, ‘I’m smarter than conservatives’, liberal thinkers who are convinced they can pander to the Muslims for love just like the do to the NAACP and th New Black Panties.


4 posted on 04/23/2012 10:45:36 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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So all that innocent until proven guilty doesn’t count anymore in the Obama regime of things?


5 posted on 04/23/2012 10:53:48 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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These kinds of people are the reason that we’re headed for CW-II.

They start messing with the constitution and they’re targets.

Period.


7 posted on 04/23/2012 11:13:47 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Here's the disturbing comment found on that website, "… there is no constitutional right to the presumption of innocence."

That's the constitution of the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

8 posted on 04/23/2012 11:45:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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"Here's the disturbing comment found on that website, "… there is no constitutional right to the presumption of innocence."

Without the context of this statement we can't make a judgement about whether it's correct.

The presumption of innocence is a legal concept, and applies in a court of law. It does not apply to the general public and our own private opinions about a case.

If the writer was saying that he was not entitled to a legal presumption of innocence in the eyes of the law, then clearly he was wrong. If the writer was suggesting that we the public have no obligation to assume innocence until the legal system decides the case, then he was right.

Just as we are not required to pretend that Casey Anthony or OJ Simpson are innocent just because they were acquited, we are also not required to suspend judgement of an accused before trial. It might be better to do that, but there's no entitlement to a presumption of innocence in the eyes of the public. Only in the eyes of the law.

9 posted on 04/23/2012 11:47:53 AM PDT by mlo
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Technically, they’re right. There is no explicit constitutional right to be presumed innocent. While that right can be inferred from the Sixth Amendment (and elements of the Fifth and Fourth as well), it is not spelled out. Presumption of innocence (and burden of proof) are legal doctrines that have arisen out of common law and established precedent. As you point out, they must be universally applied if one is to claim “due process” has been served.


12 posted on 04/23/2012 12:02:46 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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Here's the disturbing comment found on that website, "… there is no constitutional right to the presumption of innocence."

WTF...didn't that BLOGGER ever read the constitution??? I guess if a black shot a white....he would be innocent.

Stupid Liberals love to make things up!!!

13 posted on 04/23/2012 12:34:25 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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Florida should give a medal to Zimmerman for saving them a bunch of taxpayer dollars. The thug-in-training Trayvon was on his way to becoming a guest of the state prison system.


14 posted on 04/23/2012 12:39:50 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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Here's the disturbing comment found on that website, "… there is no constitutional right to the presumption of innocence."

Why no link to that website?

16 posted on 04/23/2012 12:49:28 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Liberalism is a mental DISEASE!


17 posted on 04/23/2012 12:51:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Follow the money on both sides of the border.)
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