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Historian Unhappy About Zimmerman Citation
The New York Times' The Lede ^ | April 11, 2012 | Robert Mackey

Posted on 04/11/2012 12:23:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

An American historian is “not happy” to have been quoted prominently on TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com, a Web site set up by the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot and killed the unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in Florida.

As The Lede reported on Tuesday, the bare-bones Web site apparently controlled by the gunman, George Zimmerman, features a link to a PayPal account for donations, an American flag and quotes from writers — including Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine, Henrik Ibsen and James W. Loewen, an American sociologist and historian.

The quote from Mr. Loewen is an observation made in his book, “Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong,” on the need for critical thinking by students: “People have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts. Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight.”

Mr. Loewen expressed his alarm at this development on Wednesday in a post on his blog for George Mason University’s History News Network. After noting, “I’m happy to be in the company of Burke, Ibsen, and Paine,” the historian wrote:

Still, it was jarring to see my name and quotation behind the talking heads Tuesday as they told the story of Zimmerman’s lawyers’ resignations on the evening news. I’m not happy with being used as a resource by George Zimmerman, and I disclaim any relationship with him and his cause....

(Excerpt) Read more at thelede.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; internet; pansy; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
So even being quoted on his blog taints you? What a bunch of p****ys inhabit this country nowadays.
1 posted on 04/11/2012 12:23:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It sounds like Mr. Loewen really likes himself. A lot.

If I were Zimmerman, I'd stay away from using any Springsteen and Heart music too.

2 posted on 04/11/2012 12:29:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is like a stool sample. You have to pass it to see what's in it.)
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In other words, He is entitled to his own facts and His opinions not backed by evidence can be given much weight.


3 posted on 04/11/2012 12:30:38 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The good historian is simply seeking publicity. Move on.


4 posted on 04/11/2012 12:31:47 PM PDT by sagar
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. “Such skills might have induced Mr. Zimmerman,” he wrote, “not to profile young African American males, which — this much seems factual — he seems to have done.”

I don’t think Mr. Loewen would know a fact if it hit him in the head.


5 posted on 04/11/2012 12:36:17 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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6 posted on 04/11/2012 12:42:17 PM PDT by stormer
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7 posted on 04/11/2012 12:42:41 PM PDT by stormer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boo friggin’ hoo.


8 posted on 04/11/2012 1:09:35 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I love this summary:

Brown democrat shoots black democrat, white republicans blamed


9 posted on 04/11/2012 1:13:15 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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David Horowitz has also been snarled at by James Loewen. Here is Horowitz’s response:

http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/news/2452/reply-to-loewen

Personally, I think that Mr. Zimmerman should instead post exact quotations by M.L. King, Jr. about racism, hate and persecution, all of which Mr. Zimmerman has been subjected to.


10 posted on 04/11/2012 1:29:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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Brown democrat shoots black democrat, white republicans blamed


GREAT!!! I'm sure I'll be using that one soon!
11 posted on 04/12/2012 4:42:02 AM PDT by zencycler
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So then he doesn't really mean what he said? I mean, if it's the truth and it's his conviction, why would it bother him who quotes it? Oh, I get it; he's a liberal.
12 posted on 04/12/2012 4:53:32 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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When I had my coffee shop, I had a fresh out of college customer who loaned me Loewen's book. He thought it was the greatest history book ever!

Fairly quickly, I figured out it was crap, and I gave it back a few days later. I probably only read a chapter. It was awful.

13 posted on 04/12/2012 6:51:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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