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16 SHTF Barter Items to Stockpile
SHTF Plan ^ | 3/15/12 | Tyler of Debt Reckoning

Posted on 03/15/2012 2:39:57 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Travis McGee

I agree. Having a simple solar power solution to interface with standard power requirements such as 5 volt, 9 volt, 12 volt, etc., would be a fine addition to the preppers cache. Even a set for hot water creation would be nice.


61 posted on 03/15/2012 5:38:12 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I don’t no about the ‘exotic liqueurs’, I think most who are trading will just want something strong that gets them wasted fast. Black pepper is a GOOD Thought as well as Tabasco Sauce!


62 posted on 03/15/2012 5:51:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Travis McGee

Got the solar battery recharger, rechargables, and a handcrank radio. Not bad for a po’ boy like me.


64 posted on 03/15/2012 5:55:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: NonValueAdded

I’ll be sure to have a lot of that on Hot Fudge Fridae next year.


65 posted on 03/15/2012 6:06:58 PM PDT by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: familyop

One simple thing for refrigeration - get a couple of two by 10s and lay the fridge down on them, like a chest freezer. You use far less power to keep the fridge cold, since all the cold air doesn’t spill out when you open the door.

It’s why supermarket chiller cabinets are usually horizontal. In THEORY, by doing that and only opening the fridge twice a day you can run them off a 4X4 panel easily. In practice, you need a burst from a gennie every so often to keep the batteries up.


66 posted on 03/15/2012 6:38:45 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Noumenon

Hmmmm ... not a bad idea.

I generally try to avoid those things.

That’s a different perspective.


67 posted on 03/15/2012 7:23:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: familyop

I’ve run four-foot-diameter three aluminum-bladed wind generators on my boat. They are a good complement to solar power, often windy on cloudy days etc.

BUT, it gets mighty sporty when the wind gets above about 25mph. I’ve seen an albatross get its wing chopped clean off. Securing those blades gets real fun in high winds. Your hand can be removed without a problem. I’d sure hate to be climbing a pole to secure that 10’ diameter rig. The alternative is to trust the shutoff system, or watch it self destruct in high winds. I’d love to see it in action, shutting itself off at 30+kts of wind.


68 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Osage Orange

For sure, it works. In my application (boats) space is limited, so you tend to use things that are light and compact. Wind and solar fit on my stern arch.


69 posted on 03/15/2012 8:12:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazamataz

Yep, solar rechargeable batteries can provide a lot of “civilization” cheap, and anywhere. (Well, not down in a cave.)


70 posted on 03/15/2012 8:19:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EnglishCon

That will not work - you will fry that sucker in minutes.

Buy a chest freezer, insted.

Uprights are designed to be ... upright.


71 posted on 03/15/2012 8:39:48 PM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: SwankyC

Knock off the filthy trash talk!


72 posted on 03/15/2012 8:44:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Eye of Unk

What makews you think there will be an Internet to log onto when tshtf?


73 posted on 03/15/2012 8:47:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Kartographer; I see my hands

I see my hands: what is your problem, plus your posts make no sense.

Kartographer: Thanks for this thread and keep it up. I’ve read your handbook, also. I have prepped since 1998. Can close my door and need nothing for a year and be cool, warm, have food, can cook, have water and light. I’ll even have running water at my sink and in bathroom even if pipe water is off.

I live by myself so giving to others would be a safety problem for me.


74 posted on 03/15/2012 8:49:51 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: NonValueAdded
"Harvey Randall says black pepper, spices, and exotic liqueurs."

Yes, if SHTF Many spices would again become worth their weight in gold at the very least maybe much more!

75 posted on 03/15/2012 8:51:36 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: EnglishCon
"One simple thing for refrigeration - get a couple of two by 10s and lay the fridge down on them, like a chest freezer. You use far less power to keep the fridge cold, since all the cold air doesn’t spill out when you open the door."

You would need to modify the internal workings for such to work. The cooling system is subject to gravity and must remain in the upright position. I used to manage an appliance and electronics store and if we had to lay down the frig in the truck while delivering we were instructed to not plug in the unit till it had set for at least 8 hours least the unit be damaged.

76 posted on 03/15/2012 8:58:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Eye of Unk
Obama cannot steal the sun.

Soros will probably try to buy it.

77 posted on 03/15/2012 9:09:35 PM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Kartographer
Many a fronter lady was able to develop a good business in

another commodity that has been traded since the dawn of man. No mason jar needed.

78 posted on 03/15/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Kartographer

There are enough restaurants going out of business that you might be able to go pick up a few boxes of those for free or really cheap.

Also, since we have kids in diapers, we have cases of wet wipes stockpiled and rotated.


79 posted on 03/16/2012 5:12:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: EnglishCon; patton

One thing you can do with a defunct fridge or upright freezer - make a solar oven.

Paint the inside black, take the door off, and put a glass window/door over the thing and you have a nice, insulated solar oven. Bakes bread really nice.


80 posted on 03/16/2012 5:14:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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