The Fusion Revolution

The Renewable Energy Disaster ^ | Nov 2011 | Christopher Calder

[muawiyah]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-scientists-vacuum.html You need to read this in case you missed it. LENR might well be something else!

[dinodino]

Really, muawiyah? You think scientific fraud is acceptable as long as it’s entertaining and only the rich are parted from their money? Wow, that’s SOME kinda ethic ya got there.

What’s to complain about? LOTS.

[Lx]

What's to complain about?

The fact that you extrapolated dinodino being in the Mafia based on growing up next door to someone you thought might have been in the Mafia.

Just remember this judgement that you hand out will be used on you so don't cry when it happens.

I grew up in a bad part of town and had hard core bikers on both sides of our house. They were actually very cool people that never bothered anyone.

When you were describing the folks you thought were in the mob, you missed some other things that stand out as well:

They drive cars!
They wear clothes!
What to do?

From what I've read, I don't think dinodino is upset, I think he's laughing.

Alfredino (Dino) Ferrari:

Ferrari Dino:

I'll be happy when the Rossi sideshow is over.

[muawiyah]

Indianapolis is like that ~ you can get variances for anything. Way back years ago my father in law wanted to find a certain address where serious parts for some very serious Department of Defense satellites were manufactured.

It was a guy's garage not far from my folk's home.

It's called Work at Home. There are other cities like that where they foster small precision businesses.

[muawiyah]

Fraud happens.

[muawiyah]

My next door neighbor bought a new car every year. He always had spare tanks installed in the doors, under the seats, in the fenders ~ carry illicit hootch from Tennessee (on his weekend runs to see his wife's relatives) ~ and in his 70s just a short while before his death he was arrested with several million dollars of cocaine in his new car (with the spare tanks).

He used to run the numbers at a large automotive plant in the neighborhood.

No, I didn't think he was mob, I knew he was mob, but it's the stuff he did that has me matching up others with similar behavior or claims.

Rossi reported the mob did certain things to him, and I've seen things like that which are typically mob related.

[muawiyah]

So, tell me seriously, are you the reincarnation of J. Edgar Hoover?

He didn't believe in "the Mob" ~ said it didn't exist ~ just a figment of someone's imagination.

He continued to say that in the face of "the commission" ~ designed to control competition among the 5 families in NY, and others in the same competitive zone.

Rudolph Giuliano thought they were real and started busting them up.

The Detroit mob began to decentralize its operations long before the others hence the use of soldiers in outlying cities throughout the Midwest.

[dinodino]

Oh, for God’s sake, give it a rest. Nobody is suggesting that organized crime doesn’t exist—rather, what we are suggesting, nay, flat-out saying, is that Rossi’s invention is a fake. In short, yes, we believe in organized crime; no, we do not believe in Rossi or his invention.

[muawiyah]

Then it’s a matter of “faith” with you?

[Lx]

Rossi reported the mob did certain things to him, and I've seen things like that which are typically mob related.

Was it the mob that forced him into smuggling in gold? Rossi's stories have a hundred contradictions but you believe him.

Where are Rossi's factories? Are any still standing or did they all burn down?

He said he used an ECAT to heat his factory for over a year, where's that ECAT? That factory burned down. But what was he manufacturing?

He was supposed to produce TE devices of 20% efficiency. I seem to recall that when it was time for someone else besides Rossi or his staffers to test the device, his NH factory burned down. Since then, his TE devices had a high failure rate and an efficiency of 1%. He was never again able to create a TE that worked like the ones he tested at 20% efficiency. I wonder why?

You sound like you lived next door to the Gambino's yet this Italian you trust after all the contradictions, even when he's talking his story changes.

It sounds like you have a lot of emotional energy tied up in this thing. If I were you, I would step back and disconnect yourself from this. If it works, great, if the Govs let them be manufactured and used, the world would be much better off. Use the ECAT to create heat or pre-heat heat for a boiler (providing they don't figure out a way to do it from the ECAT) and use the hydrocarbons for fuel for cars. I wonder how much percentage of oil is used for uses other than for transport (cars, buses, trains, planes)? All that would be eliminated if this thing works.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that have some serious emotions tied up in this and when the scam is revealed, I fear for their mental health.

I hate to tell you, it's a scam.

[Lx]

You have some serious issues. Yes, organized crime exists. Yes, you might have actually seen some mobsters. But you go from there to, dinodino is in the Mafia? What the H?

Then you say out the other side of your mouth how you believe Rossi?

And no, you're not that clever, implying I'm J Edgar also implies I'm gay, what, are you ten years old?

Yet another long time Freeper headed to the padded room, it's sad really.

[muawiyah]

He's just an Italian. The Sicilians are the real deal ~ or, Italians from Reggio de Calabria ~ you don't usually expect a mere Italian to run an effective scam without mob backing and control.

Rossi makes a claim that the mob used political connections they had to run him out of business ~ even get him charged with environmental crimes.

BTW, none of you have been very credible with your explanation of "gold" in all of this. Europe has interesting controls in place that can turn you into a criminal for thinking about it ~ remember, Switzerland is not part of the EU. You cross that border with paper dealing with gold, or gold, one way or the other, you can have problems.

Now, about the big news ~ pulling photons out of the vacuum. This is beginning to look like a trivial problem ~ and for all anybody knows that's what the guys with the chunks of Paladium, or nickel powder, or whatever have been doing. Fur Shur none of them are all that certain what theory they are proving out.

Your complaints of "hidden chemistry" continue to overlook the fact that "chemistry" is just a manifestation of the "Electroweak" force, and most of the LENR projects claim some connection to that force ~ but it doesn't mean they're playing with chemistry, or magnetism.

I find it all a quite entertaining show.

BTW, when I started out paying attention to science the cell nucleus continued to show up as a blob with inclusions. Our ability to examine the nucleus has improved MILLIONS OF TIMES. Same with most other things "scientific". Much of this is simply beyond the ability of mere citizens to scope out ~ we don't have the equipment. That was probably Rossi's problem so he went to Focardi, the retired professor.

If I were you I'd keep my eye on Focardi.

[dinodino]

Not at all, it’s entirely a matter of reason. When I said, “don’t believe in Rossi,” I meant that I do not believe Rossi is sincere or honest and that I do not believe that his invention is legitimate. Surely you must speak English well enough to have understood that.

[muawiyah]

J. Edgar wasn't gay, but thinking that implies you are politically a Far Leftwingtard.

This is a Conservative board.

Jus' sayin'.

One of the charateristics of the mob is that they keep coming back at you to make sure you stay in your place. That's just short of knee-capping you or maybe killing you, but they do it. Rossi reported that as well.

That's why I expect somebody showing up on FR doing that to Rossi.

[dinodino]

“BTW, none of you have been very credible with your explanation of “gold” in all of this. Europe has interesting controls in place that can turn you into a criminal for thinking about it ~ remember, Switzerland is not part of the EU. You cross that border with paper dealing with gold, or gold, one way or the other, you can have problems.”

You are talking out of your ass. If you want to know the details of Rossi’s problems with the Italian tax authorities, ask them. Have you ever even been to CH or crossed in from Italy?

[dinodino]

Better run to the store to buy some more tin foil to wrap your head...

[muawiyah]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2809897/posts ~ just in case you wanted to know where Rossi is getting his large battery containers from “cheap” ~ they’re showing up because of widespread shutdowns of windmills. You’re the guy with the conspiracies in mind so here’s another one.

[muawiyah]

I’ve actually helped people with criminal records get visas to visit family in Reggio. The Italian tax police are known world wide. Just because they can come up with a crime doesn’t mean it happened or that they have a law against it.

[Lx]

J. Edgar wasn't gay, but thinking that implies you are politically a Far Leftwingtard.

It's one thing to have no class, it's another to not know it and put it on display.

I would prefer Hoover had been straight but Clyde Tolson, his constant companion ended up getting his house after hoover died. It's not exactly a secret and who are you to tell me where to post? What's with the hysterics? You're not rational.

Do you have nightmares about the Mafia? What's with the obsession? You, this is no joke, need to get some help, maybe a therapist who can at least point you where you need to go. It might even end with him. I hope you can get the help you need. Seeing posts from you aren't funny anymore, they're sad.

[dinodino]

I have no conspiracies in mind at all. I believe Rossi is a fraud. He has been convicted of fraud in the past, he has a fraudulent engineering degree, and everything he is doing is characteristic of fraud. No conspiracy theories required!