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Japan feared evacuation of 30 million in nuclear crisis, ex-PM says
CNN ^ | September 19, 2011 | Mallory Simon

Posted on 09/28/2011 6:49:23 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

After the March 11 earthquake and tsunami off Japan damaged the Fukushima Daichi nuclear reactor, the Japanese government was presented with a scenario which would have required the evacuation of half of Tokyo and the entire width of the main island of Honshu, former Prime Minister Naota Kan says in an interview with Kyodo News.

The evacuation zone would have covered all areas within 200 to 250 kilometers (125 to 155 miles) of the nuclear reactor, meaning about 30 million people in Tokyo and its surrounding areas would have needed to be moved, according to the Kyodo report in The Japan Times.

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Any idea of the death toll in Japan from the nuclear crisis?

What about in America? Any deaths from the cloud of radiation that hit the West Coast?

1 posted on 09/28/2011 6:49:30 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Gee CNN why would you report this , now? I mean according to you there was never any danger, anyway. Well you and many posters here on freerepublic.

Not more than an airline pilot, a microwave, the sun.....that’s what we were told. And then in this age of Obama, if anyone dare dissent, they were promptly riduculed, called names, and some were threatened to be shot...


2 posted on 09/28/2011 6:57:54 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Freddd

What was the danger?
I read on FR that we’d get 750 Rem on the West Coast.
Did we? Did we have the predicted massive casualties?


3 posted on 09/28/2011 7:13:02 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

...and then they just decided to pretend it was all ok and let things fall where they may.

Last report from Tepco was that the rods had burned through the basement.


4 posted on 09/28/2011 7:16:19 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Freddd

A banana!! I love me some Rush, but to say a destroyed nuclear plant is about as harmless as the radiation of a banana is stupid.

For one thing, there is different kinds of radiation, right? I mean elemental wise.


5 posted on 09/28/2011 7:17:38 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Freddd

I don’t know of anybody who claimed there was never any danger.

If the worst case scenario, a true meltdown with complete breach of the containment, had occurred then the scenario in this article would have been a fact.

There would have been some but not massive effects on parts of North America. Less than those we intentionally inflicted on ourselves in atmospheric testing back in the 50s.

As it turned out, the effects on North America have been minimal, very nearly unmeasurable. Exactly as most of the naysayers predicted.

The effects in Japan outside the immediate area have also been less than many of the hyperbolists predicted, though greater than some of the minimizers.


6 posted on 09/28/2011 7:21:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: autumnraine
For one thing, there is different kinds of radiation, right? I mean elemental wise.

How much radioactive potassium in a banana? How much radioactive potassium, or other elements, did you absorb from Fukushima?

7 posted on 09/28/2011 7:23:15 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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You have to be dead center to get immediate deaths. The thing about radiation (from what I understand) is that it is something that could effect you later on. We will have to see increase in heart attacks (from cesium) and leukemia.


8 posted on 09/28/2011 7:29:46 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: All

http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/164050/20110616/fukushima-meltdown-japan-chernobyl-radiation-nuclear-plant-environment-climate.htm


9 posted on 09/28/2011 7:34:31 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Zero deaths from the Japanese nuclear crisis.

Fast and Furious related deaths: at least 1 American and thousands of Mexicans.


10 posted on 09/28/2011 7:36:35 AM PDT by kidd (Perry is a "conserbatib" - voting "conservative" while holding your nose)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You assume that the radiation risk from a banana is the same radiation risk from Fukushima.

A banana has potassium radiation. Fukushima has Iodine, Cesium and Strontium radiation. And in much MUCH higher doses.

Take a look at this and learn that radiation is not just radiation. Different elements that do different things to our bodies.

http://www.good.is/post/chart-how-eating-a-banana-compares-with-the-radiation-exposure-around-japan-s-fukushima-plant/


11 posted on 09/28/2011 7:45:01 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Anyone who uses the word “basement” with respect to a nuclear containment structure probably shouldn’t be listened to.

Now, if the fuel had burned through to the wine cellar, we’ve got problems!


12 posted on 09/28/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (I can only be series in a parallel universe.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

My prediction: 99.9% of the people who lived within 1000 miles of Fukisuhima will be dead within 100 years.


13 posted on 09/28/2011 7:54:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (I can only be series in a parallel universe.)
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Zero deaths? Really?

And you know this because Japan and TEPCO says so?

Did you know Japan is censoring information on Fukushima? Here is a good English translation and article.

http://japanfocus.org/-Makiko-Segawa/3516

Despite Japan’s claims that they scan exports, 49 radioactive cars were received in Russia.
http://www.pakistantimes.net/pt/detail.php?newsId=20725

And even though the FDA sets standards for radiation in fish, it was no big deal to eat fish with 2400% higher doses after Fukushima.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/06/fda-eating-fish-caught-japan-radiation-2400-federal-limits-poses-health-risks-14501/

Seriously people, if our media can run defense for Obama as blatantly as they do, why can’t you grasp the denial by a company in Japan?


14 posted on 09/28/2011 7:59:06 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Awww, you should really do some research before mocking someone. Cause then YOU look like the fool.

That’s what it’s CALLED. Good God.

Radioactive water pumped out of Fukushima basement.

The operator of Japan’s crippled nuclear plant has begun pumping highly radioactive water from the basement of one reactor’s turbine building to a makeshift storage area

http://www.nce.co.uk/news/international/radioactive-water-pumped-out-of-fukushima-basement/8614017.article


15 posted on 09/28/2011 8:02:42 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
You assume that the radiation risk from a banana is the same radiation risk from Fukushima.

I assume no such thing.

A banana has potassium radiation. Fukushima has Iodine, Cesium and Strontium radiation. And in much MUCH higher doses.

Fukushima is also much further away from you than the banana you just ate.

16 posted on 09/28/2011 8:13:05 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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Of course it’s far away! Ohhhh, I see. I shouldn’t be concerned, it’s just the Japanese people, who cares?

I just hope that those people (in America and elsewhere) eating the radiated fish understand that the fish was radiated 1000’s of miles away. Oh wait, I guess it doesn’t matter when the radiation is shipped to you how far away it started. Given the half life is usually only 8 days, I’ll just wait until it’s good and rotted before eating.

However we have some nuclear plants in California, where earthquakes are numerous. But what the heck, I’m all the way in Georgia, what do I care?

I am NOT anti-nuclear power, it’s a good way to provide a lot of power further. But to sit in total denial that devastation is no biggie is just that. Denial.


17 posted on 09/28/2011 8:21:44 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Of course it’s far away! Ohhhh, I see. I shouldn’t be concerned, it’s just the Japanese people, who cares?

Wow!

Put words in my mouth much?

Has anyone in the US died from the radiation yet?

When the accident occurred, some Freepers claimed we'd get 750 Rem on the West Coast of the US. Did you agree? Did we get 750 Rem? How many did we get?

18 posted on 09/28/2011 8:26:28 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Give it time. The cancer rates out of Japan will be sunning if we ever see the truth of the matter.


19 posted on 09/28/2011 8:30:01 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Watch what people DO, not what they say.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You know what, first of all, I owe you an apology. I realize now that the snarky jerk who said I shouldn’t be listened to because I called the basement a basement and I felt defensive. I see now you are not the same poster and I apologize.

So anyways... no, I didn’t think it would be that much just because of the length of time for it to make it’s way to the west coast divided the half life of the radiation particles.

However some with longer half life would make it, but not in those massive doses. That does not diminish the danger though because the ‘event’ is not over. Fukushima CONTINUES to dispense radiation (especially with the brilliant idea to cool the rods with ocean water which is pumped back out into the pacific-imagine the fish!) Speaking fish... just last week, hundreds of giant squid (which is found in higher numbers near Japan) washed ashore in California. Radiation (from what I’ve studied) is harmful over time as a buildup. That’s why I said just because folks aren’t dropping off like flies within days of the disaster doesn’t mean there isn’t a threat. The problem is that most of the deaths probably wouldn’t be attributed to Fukushima because people die from heart attacks every day. But Cesium poisoning causes heart attacks. People die from cancer everyday. Obviously radiation poisoning causes cancer. But one statistic that has me concerned is the infant mortality. Infants are the most vulnerable to radiation. Take a look at this Seattle news report.

Northwest sees 35% infant mortality spike post-Fukushima

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-northwest-sees-35-infant-mortality-spike-postfukushima-20110617,0,5968165.story

That’s some scary stuff.

Again, please accept my smarta&& post to you.


20 posted on 09/28/2011 8:41:46 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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