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To: grey_whiskers

You seem to be pretty hard on Perry. Just off the top of my head, Bachmann was a Carter Rat and Reagan was an FDR Rat before they had conversions. Reagan did amnesty for illegals and in ‘67 signed abortion legislation as Gov.

Sarah Palin respects Perry and thinks he is a straight up Conservative. Your argument may be looking for absolute purity in a world were there is none.

I also think this belief that there is a conspiracy by the elites to install this guy falls apart when you note that the Bushes and Rove hate Perry. They are the elites after all.


8 posted on 08/16/2011 9:53:32 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
There's more than one set of elites.

Think about the Clinton camp vs. the Chicago machine in the Dem Party.

Think of The Maine Sisters and Weepy Boehner in the GOP.

A three-term Governor who got his start under Rove is much more a party insider than Palin who wandered down from Alaska only to be muzzled and set up by the RINOs in her own campaign's staff.

Rove hates Perry because Perry has his own set of cronies and consultants: and without a feudal master to give him credibility, who's really gonna pay Rove? His results as far as winning aren't that good (look at the GOP's performance in the House and Senate during his time).

Cheers!

10 posted on 08/16/2011 9:58:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I also think this belief that there is a conspiracy by the elites to install this guy falls apart when you note that the Bushes and Rove hate Perry. They are the elites after all.

Don't you know that Rove is faking it so as to make us believe that he hates Perry but he really does not and wants him to take the nomination even though he supports Romney too. It is all very complex but its true, it really is..../tinfoil

11 posted on 08/16/2011 9:59:29 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Ronald Reagan last supported a Democrat for President in 1948.

Perry supported a Democrat to REPLACE PRESIDENT REAGAN in 1988.


20 posted on 08/16/2011 10:18:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I also think this belief that there is a conspiracy by the elites to install this guy falls apart when you note that the Bushes and Rove hate Perry. They are the elites after all.

Lazlo, you're late to the party. The Bushes and Perry have made-up.
31 posted on 08/16/2011 10:30:53 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Lazlo in PA

Excellent post, Lazlo. Thank you.


35 posted on 08/16/2011 10:38:13 PM PDT by DRey
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To: Lazlo in PA

It’s about Perry as threat to Sarah for them...they are just using this guise to attack Perry

rather transparent...but Bachamnn...like me converted at 22/23 and at the same historical time for same reasons..Carter...1977 I think

Perry...in 1989...at 40 He did it to get elected....very late to the curve

Magnus did it because the Dems went social lib...1962...and he knew it early...all that Civil rights stuff he eschewed

but I don’t doubt that Perry is fairly socially right...more than Bush

He is a problem on borders...but hell..except Bachmann...they have all done or said stuff I ain’t crazy on about immigration...

and Bachmann could well turn too...believe none of them will ignore the latino vote completely...they can do that with the black vote...a lost cause but you just watch...they will parse amnesty...path to citizenship and all that yip yap...

any of them could likely try to grant something...Bush tried and it took all we had to stop him...barely...I don’t trust any of them on borders...they could all want to be rainmakers over that one


45 posted on 08/16/2011 10:48:24 PM PDT by wardaddy (I support Bachmann...or Palin should she enter...but I am not a Palin Harpy...know the difference)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Can you refute anything in the post?


47 posted on 08/16/2011 10:51:39 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("But resist, we much...we must...and we will much...about...that...be committed." - Al Sharpton)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Detailed gardasil history from Michelle Malkin-> http://michellemalkin.com/2011/07/20/obamas-ministers-of-culture-and-agitprop/


115 posted on 08/17/2011 3:17:34 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Lazlo in PA
Bachmann *may* have the excuse that Carter was the first Prez candidate to play the "born-again" card. He fooled a lot of people with that at first.

Depends on when she converted to Christianity...

Reagan is quite clearly a conservative: "The Democrat Party left me." He amnesty was getting suckered by Congress, as he was with the mythical $3-in-cuts-for-$1-taxes.

If Palin thinks Perry is a straight up conservative, then that is proof that I'm not a Palin KAD: I disagree with her.

Palin may not be absolutely pure, but she's a hell of a lot better than Perry.

And as I noted earlier to you, there is more than one set of elites: and most of them dislike Palin. (Look at Rove sounding the alarm the last day or so; look at Fee, Fi, Fag, Frum trashing her today.)

Cheers!

163 posted on 08/17/2011 4:17:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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