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Santorum keeps the heat on Romney over healthcare (WTG Rick Santorum!)
the hill ^ | 04/12/11 | Shane D'Aprile

Posted on 06/09/2011 11:07:11 PM PDT by Sun

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To: Lazlo in PA

huck had some bad ideas but romney actually signed romneycare into law. He actually said in a GOP debate in 2008... Remember this?

“Debate moderator Charles Gibson of ABC News: “But Gov. Romney’s system has mandates in Massachusetts, although you backed away from mandates on a national basis.”

No, no, I like mandates. The mandates work.

GOP contender Fred Thompson: “I beg your pardon? I didn’t know you were going to admit that. You like mandates.”

Romney: “Oh, absolutely. Let me tell you what kind of mandates I like, Fred, which is this. If it weren’t –“

Thompson: “The ones you come up with. Bingo””

That wasn’t poll-driven. He really believed in that stuff.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 11:59:30 PM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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To: OrangeHoof

Actually in 2012, the #1 issue may not even be the economy (not that I expect it to get better).

It may be a nuclear armed Iran.


22 posted on 06/10/2011 12:02:40 AM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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To: OrangeHoof

Mark Levin, who likes Santorum (and a few others), said it’s up to the voters if they want to forgive Santorum, or not. Toomey did, and endorsed Santorum in his last election.

I hope conservatives will forgive Santorum for not being perfect, because I’d hate to lose a man this good:

“Full-spectrum conservative: While perhaps best-known as a social conservative, Santorum has bona fides in all areas of conservative philosophy — economics, foreign policy, etc. Put simply, he’s versatile.

And in a field that will likely have no other senators and correspondingly limited foreign policy experience, Santorum can point to his eight years on the Senate Armed Services committee as proof that he will be prepared to handle an uncertain situation in the Middle East from day one.

While other candidates may have tax increases in their past as governor or have not always been hard-line on social issues, it will be tough to paint Santorum as insufficiently conservative in any facet of his record. And he can point to specific evidence of his conservatism no matter what the issue du jour is.”

excerpt http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-case-for-rick-santorum/2011/04/14/AFhEhpdD_blog.html


23 posted on 06/10/2011 12:07:17 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: truthkeeper
That kind of sums up things now.

I've actually wondered, since everyone is called a RINO now, if Palin ran and got the nomination, would she have to leave the VP blank, since there isn't anyone who isn't a RINO ? lol

24 posted on 06/10/2011 12:08:29 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: ari-freedom

Hey man. I had a bucket of sh!t to choose from on the GOP side and a Marxist Radical on the Rat side. What was I supposed to do? Nothing? I am fully aware of Mittens. I hate him. A number of us made a choice. I chose to be stabbed instead of shot. So shoot me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pVqZzHm3Z4


25 posted on 06/10/2011 12:09:41 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: ari-freedom

I don’t know if all people realize that if the government has control over our life and death (Romney/ObamaCARE), they own us.


26 posted on 06/10/2011 12:09:56 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sonny M

“if Palin ran and got the nomination, would she have to leave the VP blank, since there isn’t anyone who isn’t a RINO ? lol “

Good point, and some would even call her a RINO. Guess they want Obama to win, so we can become slaves to the government.


27 posted on 06/10/2011 12:13:12 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Santorum did the only thing he could with that decision. Being from PA, there was no way he had any shot at reelection going against the sitting President and GOP apparatus running as a Conservative here. If anyone should be blamed for that mess, it should be Bush.


28 posted on 06/10/2011 12:13:54 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Don’t worry. I won’t hold it against you. It was a bad field.

But there were a lot of people who really loved Romney back then and many (at least from the reported polls) still do.


29 posted on 06/10/2011 12:14:33 AM PDT by ari-freedom (All we are saying....is give the military a chance)
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To: Sun
DeMint also supported Romney, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they both changed their minds. Maybe they thought Romney was the least of the evils of the remaining candidates.

I think you'd be wrong about DeMint.

He came out lately with positive statements about Myth.
30 posted on 06/10/2011 12:17:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: truthkeeper
Everybody's a RINO now, dontcha know.

Yea, let's all just forget the history of all of these candidates because you want to elect somebody, anybody with an R next to their name.

If you don't mind, I think the rest of us will try and find the best Conservative for the job, that means factoring in all of the warts of each of the candidates.
31 posted on 06/10/2011 12:20:52 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Sun

If folks are wondering about Santorum and DeMint supporting Romney in the past, what is going on now since the 2010 election the R party is kind of like when the officer corps starts figuring out the war is lost, but the politicians don’t want to give it up.

The R establishment has listened to Tea Parties, and knows people want political outsiders, and so forth, but to career politicians it’s all just background noise drowned out by them salivating over the next election. In their typical pavlovian response of preparing for it in the same way the always have they simply worry about getting big bucks in their campaign chest. So even though they listened, I don’t think they really get it. Private citizens get it, but politicians are only little by little understanding just how sick of them people are. It just takes elections to prove it to them.

DeMint even says he had a change of heart AFTER he was elected. I think they both realize that things have drastically changed from when they first were elected.


32 posted on 06/10/2011 12:50:14 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Conservative Christian Capitalists - I encourage you to visit my Profile)
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To: SoConPubbie

Did you read my post #18? DeMint doesn’t like Romneycare.

I could also come up with positive statements, like Romney has nice hair, but I sure as heck won’t support him.


33 posted on 06/10/2011 12:50:46 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

He had a brain fart!


34 posted on 06/10/2011 12:52:33 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: PieterCasparzen

They will all listen when they see who we vote for in the primaries. And with the Tea Party, voters will vote more intelligently, as they did in the last election.


35 posted on 06/10/2011 12:55:19 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: truthkeeper
Everybody's a RINO now, dontcha know.

Yep - unless a candidate is a "purist" that candidate is a RINO.

The real problem is that "purist" has as many different faces as there are folks who demand purist candidates. Folks have their own subjective differences as to what the term means and don't realize that without some variances, "purists" are just as much doctrinaires as communists and others that would crush freedom.

36 posted on 06/10/2011 3:35:30 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Sun

Santorum has a lifetime ACU rating of 88.1.


37 posted on 06/10/2011 3:40:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Sonny M

Allen West.


38 posted on 06/10/2011 5:02:07 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe ( "Failure to speak out against evil is evil itself" - Dietrich Bonhoeffer)
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To: Sun
I have two words for Rick Santorum: Pat Toomey.

Santorum's a party animal. Nuff said.

39 posted on 06/10/2011 5:04:17 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Sun; Lazlo in PA
DeMint also supported Romney, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they both changed their minds. Maybe they thought Romney was the least of the evils of the remaining candidates.

I was pulling for Myth back then too along with a lot of serious minded Conservatives. Do you remember the even worse piece of garbage he was fighting against?

That is precisely my point. A LOT of conservatives went for Romney back then who would not go for Romney today. Here in Missouri, for example, it came down to Romney, Huckabee, or McCain. My man, Thompson, had dropped out shortly before the primary. So, to stop McCain, I voted for Romney.

That was then, this is now. RomneyCare was not in the spotlight then, it is now. And Romney has defended it, rather than admitting his mistake.

My point is, I don't hold support of Romney *last* time against anyone *this* time.

40 posted on 06/10/2011 7:23:17 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional conservative who wants to win)
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