Smell No Cannabis Evil

Weekend Libertarian ^ | 9 June, 2011 | B.P. Terpstra

[AustralianConservative]

I’ve been to Amsterdam and the revolution is a lie. Troubled by the Netherlands failed social experiment on teenagers, however, the Soros-backed Cato Institute and other Woodstock libertarians have been singing the praises of socialist Portugal’s soft-on-drug ethos, and hoping to hell we wouldn’t ask too many critical-thinking questions.

The faithful still claim that crime in Portugal has gone done since their nation went soft on drugs. But what’s gone down is their economy, an economic basket case. Moreover, the Portuguese have a history of fiddling with crime statistics. Or to quote my local newspaper:

A Melbourne woman was murdered in Portugal and her death covered up by police there, a Sunday Herald Sun investigation has found.

Former international model and fashion executive Jacinta Rees was hacked to death with an axe at her cottage in the Algarve, in southern Portugal, two years ago.

Portugal is cool!

But even official statistics can’t hide what I call the peaceful terror that is progressive Portugal. Somehow drug-first libertarians and open-borders libertarians are always missing the bloody stories:

The official data show that in the third trimester of the year (the summer months) violent criminality rose more than 16%, a substantial portion of the overall 10% rise in criminality last year, which concerns the most violent cases.

Portugal is cool!

Drugs Free America Foundation’s Calvina Fay knows:

Studies show Portugal is a classic example of what not to do. Drug-induced deaths in Portugal climbed to 314 in 2007 - significantly more than the 280 deaths recorded when decriminalization started in 2001.

Altogether now: Portugal is cool!

[AustralianConservative]

http://weekendlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/06/smell-no-cannabis-evil.html

[microgood]

One thing the drug warriors have in common with the global warmists is that every word they utter is a lie. But whatever this is, it was written by a delusional idiot whose reading and writing comprehension is below the 3rd grade level.

[JerseyHighlander]

LOL, non sequitur red herring leaps of faith does not a pundit be.

Contrary to the talking heads on the telly.

“The faithful still claim that crime in Portugal has gone done since their nation went soft on drugs. But what’s gone down is their economy, an economic basket case. “

[cowtowney]

Yea, because the War on Drugs has been sooo successful

[familyop]

To smoke weed is to willingly be a slave.

[AustralianConservative]

LOL: What war on drugs? Your borders are wide open. Judicial activists have been handing out soft and or inconsistent sentences for decades. If that’s a war, then I’m a hamburger on plant Blip Bop.

But I digress. The question is: How’s life in Portugal?
How’s that hope and change working out?

[muir_redwoods]

To drink alcohol is to willingly be stupider than one has to be

[erod]

Interesting article

[AustralianConservative]

So we should hide Portugal’s failing drug experiment because it makes you feel bad? Quote speech is bad for minds – but pot is good? Okay. A questioner is a “delusional idiot” but a pothead is a moral superior?

[AustralianConservative]

Point taken. Yes, I see how drugs can enslave people. But sometimes taxpayers look like slaves too, when they’re forced to fund their lifestyles or clean up their messes.

[Prokopton]

Here’s the article the blogger is attacking. Lots of facts, from that ultra conservative AP. BTW, you won’t find this article at the blog site.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/26/portugals-drug-policy-pays-eyes-lessons/

[familyop]

"Point taken. Yes, I see how drugs can enslave people. But sometimes taxpayers look like slaves too, when they’re forced to fund their lifestyles or clean up their messes."

That's a great point. Our various levels of American government are headed toward default and will not cut spending enough to avoid it. Even those in local government offices cling to what they perceive to be power.

We're entering a depression that may have a powerful effect against vices, bureaucratic thieveries and hyper-interests for global concerns.

[OneWingedShark]

To drink alcohol is to willingly be stupider than one has to be

And what does intelligence bring but pain and sorrow?

Proverbs 31:6-7
Give strong drink to him who is perishing and wine to those in bitter distress: let them drink and forget their poverty, and remember their misery no more.

Given what has been done in the name of the War on Drugs such as this, and this how can someone who loves Justice not be bitterly distressed?

[jmacusa]

And to drink alcohol is what... to be a free man?

[John S Mosby]

The Cato Institute is backed by George Soros? Somebody prove that- little hard to believe really no matter what you think of libertarians.

[microgood]

So we should hide Portugal’s failing drug experiment because it makes you feel bad? Quote speech is bad for minds – but pot is good? Okay. A questioner is a “delusional idiot” but a pothead is a moral superior?

He is not a questioner but rather a speaker of deceptive lies. Here is an example:

As I’ve repeatedly stated, it was no coincidence that Euro-socialist states raced to soften their drug laws, because drug users are government-dependent citizens, as Orwell recognized in Nineteen Eighty-Four. Beyond theory, in the real world, taxed-to-hell conservative families are expected to pay up.

The vast majority of pot smokers, for example, are productive citizens. This is like saying all people who dring alcohol are dependent on society. There are 20-30 million pot smokers in this country, and 90% + have jobs, children, etc.

Most drug use is recreational, just like with alcohol. There are some hardcore addicts, but of the 800,000 pot smokers arrested every year, most are just normal citizens that happen to like smoking pot.

This moron is not interested in anything related to reality, just wants to push his extremely disjointed view of the world around him.

[boop]

800,000 pot smokers arrested per year? 10% of the public are potheads? Please tell me where these statistics come from. That being said, under what circumstances are they being arrested? If they’re driving around while high, or smoking a joint in public, how is that different than someone who drinks and drives, or is publicly intoxicated, or even sipping a beer at the beach? That’ll get you arrested/fined too. It’s NOT a good thing. And not a very persuasive argument for legalization/decriminalization. Just do it in your home and you’ll most likely be fine. Goes for booze, too.

[familyop]

"And to drink alcohol is what... to be a free man?"

Fallacy: irrelevant.

[Jonty30]

I don’t do drugs and I dislike the fact that people do drugs, because I have found the vast majority are compromisable and prioritize their drug use over everything.

That has been my experience. However, we can’t stop stupdity and they should be free to do as they will.

Just don’t ask us non-users to cover your behind when you’re unable to stop using them.

[microgood]

I don’t do drugs and I dislike the fact that people do drugs, because I have found the vast majority are compromisable and prioritize their drug use over everything.

I assume that you include the drug alcohol in your analysis. What many people do not realize is that there is a difference between drug use and drug abuse. Most alcohol users and pot users use them responsibly but abuse is what people focus on.

Just don’t ask us non-users to cover your behind when you’re unable to stop using them.

I agree. I think all welfare is basically theft. Eliminate all welfare. Period.