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Bill Maher Rewrites and Ignores History to Pit the Founding Fathers Against the Tea Party
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | January 17, 2011 | Calvin Freiburger

Posted on 01/18/2011 10:34:32 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson

Left-wing satirist Bill Maher is taking his hatred of the Tea Party movement to the next level. Evidently epithets like crazy, stupid, and racist no longer satisfy him, and he’s decided it’s time to hit "teabaggers" where it really hurts: by mocking their reverence for America’s Founding Fathers, suggesting the Founders’ values aren’t their own:

“[T]he Founding Fathers would have hated your guts…and what’s more, you would have hated them. They were everything you despise. They studied science, read Plato, hung out in Paris, and thought the Bible was mostly bullshit.”

Maher got a crack in at the Founders as well, saying they had a moral code, but it didn’t come from the Bible…”except for the part about, ‘it’s cool to own slaves.’”

Here, Maher is repackaging the ridiculous straw man that conservatism is not only incompatible with reason and science, but that right-wingers actually pride themselves on disregarding the insights of modern intellectuals in favor of gut instinct and unchanging tradition. But this is a complete distortion of conservative arguments.

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1 posted on 01/18/2011 10:34:34 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Maher is scum!


2 posted on 01/18/2011 10:36:35 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

No, he is a pot smoking leftist scum!


3 posted on 01/18/2011 10:39:08 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

“What can men do against such reckless hate?” - Tolkien


4 posted on 01/18/2011 10:45:04 PM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
Maher is a waste of flesh. As despicable a person as has ever walked the earth. His existence gives filth and scum and mental illness someone to look down on.
5 posted on 01/18/2011 11:02:03 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Just remember that it’s HBO that gives this clown his forum.


6 posted on 01/18/2011 11:09:03 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (My baloney has a first name, it's DEMOCRAT; my baloney has a second name, it's PARTY)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

There is not an honest or honorable bone in these leftist’s bodies.

They think nothing of lying, or any other immoral action if they can further their agenda.

They truly have been given over to the devil and to their own selfish desires.

Evil reigns with the left.


7 posted on 01/18/2011 11:11:38 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: BigCinBigD

“His existence gives filth and scum and mental illness someone to look down on.”

####

I reserve the deployment of my favorite nomenclature artillery for very special occasions.

Like the the appearance of the consistently odious excrescence, Maher.

Smegma.


8 posted on 01/18/2011 11:17:51 PM PST by EyeGuy (Gimme Shelter)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Ever notice it is always the “sort of” smart people who always talk about being smart?

Maher panders to his tiny sliver of a market of hateful morons who pretend to be smart. No one cares what he - or they - have to think say or do.


9 posted on 01/18/2011 11:25:24 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Maher is the mouthy spoiled little brat hiding behind mommy and daddy when the neighbors have had enough


10 posted on 01/18/2011 11:25:48 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

What do you expect from a guy who would pimp out his girlfriend.


11 posted on 01/18/2011 11:36:48 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
“[T]he Founding Fathers would have hated your guts…and what’s more, you would have hated them. They were everything you despise. They studied science, read Plato, hung out in Paris, and thought the Bible was mostly bullshit.”

There is one momentous thing above all else! They kicked oppressive government to the curb!

But let's not let other facts get trampled on.

In his diary, Manasseh Cutler (1742-1823), a Federalist Congressman from Massachusetts and Congregational minister, notes that on Sunday, January 3, 1802, John Leland preached a sermon on the text "Behold a greater than Solomon is here. Jef[ferso]n was present." Thomas Jefferson attended this church service in Congress, just two days after issuing the Danbury Baptist letter. Leland, a celebrated Baptist minister, had moved from Orange County, Virginia, and was serving a congregation in Cheshire, Massachusetts, from which he had delivered to Jefferson a gift of a "mammoth cheese," weighing 1235 pounds.
It should be noted that Orange County borders Albemarle County where Monticello is located.
It is no exaggeration to say that on Sundays in Washington during the administrations of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) and of James Madison (1809-1817) the state became the church. Within a year of his inauguration, Jefferson began attending church services in the House of Representatives. Madison followed Jefferson's example, although unlike Jefferson, who rode on horseback to church in the Capitol, Madison came in a coach and four. Worship services in the House--a practice that continued until after the Civil War--were acceptable to Jefferson because they were nondiscriminatory and voluntary. Preachers of every Protestant denomination appeared. (Catholic priests began officiating in 1826.) As early as January 1806 a female evangelist, Dorothy Ripley, delivered a camp meeting-style exhortation in the House to Jefferson, Vice President Aaron Burr, and a "crowded audience." Throughout his administration Jefferson permitted church services in executive branch buildings. The Gospel was also preached in the Supreme Court chambers.

Jefferson's actions may seem surprising because his attitude toward the relation between religion and government is usually thought to have been embodied in his recommendation that there exist "a wall of separation between church and state." In that statement, Jefferson was apparently declaring his opposition, as Madison had done in introducing the Bill of Rights, to a "national" religion. In attending church services on public property, Jefferson and Madison consciously and deliberately were offering symbolic support to religion as a prop for republican government.


An early Washington "insider," Margaret Bayard Smith (1778-1844), a writer and social critic and wife of Samuel Harrison Smith, publisher of the National Intelligencer, wrote of Jefferson's attendance at church services in the House of Representatives: "Jefferson during his whole administration was a most regular attendant. The seat he chose the first day sabbath, and the adjoining one, which his private secretary occupied, were ever afterwards by the courtesy of the congregation, left for him." http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06-2.html Library of Congress

12 posted on 01/18/2011 11:41:46 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


13 posted on 01/18/2011 11:44:32 PM PST by nutmeg (The 111th Congress: Worst. Congress. Ever.)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

I do not have the appropriate words to describe my loathing of the miserable toad Bill Maher. He is a cancer on our media and society. That there are people stupid enough to actually give his words credence is truly frightening.


14 posted on 01/18/2011 11:58:32 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Walter Scott Hudson
“[T]he Founding Fathers... thought the Bible was mostly bulls**t.”

Political scientists have documented that the most frequently-cited source in the political period known as The Founding Era was the Bible.

The first act of America's first Congress in 1774 was to ask a minister to open with prayer and to lead Congress in the reading of 4 chapters of the Bible.

In 1777, Congress, facing a National shortage of `Bibles for our schools, and families, and for the public worship of God in our churches,' announced that they `desired to have a Bible printed under their care & by their encouragement' and therefore ordered 20,000 copies of the Bible to be imported 'into the different ports of the States of the Union.'

In 1782, Congress pursued a plan to print a Bible that would be `a neat edition of the Holy Scriptures for the use of schools' and therefore approved the production of the first English language Bible printed in America that contained the congressional endorsement that `the United States in Congress assembled ... recommend this edition of the Bible to the inhabitants of the United States'.

[P]ublic utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw entrenchments around our institutions. Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses, and at the same time enjoy quiet conscience. -- James McHenry

The most perfect maxims and examples for regulating your social conduct and domestic economy, as well as the best rules of morality and religion, are to be found in the Bible. . . . The moral principles and precepts found in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. These principles and precepts have truth, immutable truth, for their foundation. . . . All the evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible. . . . For instruction then in social, religious and civil duties resort to the scriptures for the best precepts. -- Noah Webster

“All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.” -- Noah Webster

"the Bible should always remain the principle text book in America's classrooms. Its morals are pure, its examples captivating and noble…the Bible will justly remain the standard of language as well as of faith." -- Fisher Ames

"In forming and settling my belief relative to the doctrines of Christianity, I adopted no articles from creeds but such only as, on careful examination, I found to be confirmed in the Bible" -- John Jay

Men, in a word, must necessarily be controlled either by a power within them or by a power without them; either by the Word of God or by the strong arm of man; either by the Bible or by the bayonet. -- Robert Winthrop

"I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen." -- John Adams

“ He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” -- Samuel Adams [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

President Andrew Jackson declared that the Bible `is the rock on which our Republic rests'.

President Abraham Lincoln declared that the Bible `is the best gift God has given to men ... But for it, we could not know right from wrong'.

"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible." -- Washington's Farewell Address, Sept. 17, 1796

“The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed.” -- Patrick Henry

• In 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided the Bible Society of Philadelphia in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible. “ An Act for the relief of the Bible Society of Philadelphia” Approved February 2, 1813 by Congress

"A Bible and a newspaper in every house, a good school in every district- all studied and appreciated as they merit- are the principle of virtue, morality, and civil liberty" -- Benjamin Franklin

"We profess to be republicans, and yet we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government, that is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by the means of the Bible. For this Divine Book, above all others, favors that equality among mankind, that respect for just laws, and those sober and frugal virtues, which constitute the soul of republicanism." -- Benjamin Rush

"Surely future generations wouldn't try to take the Bible out of schools. In contemplating the political institutions of the United States, if we were to remove the Bible from schools, I lament that we could be wasting so much time and money in punishing crime and would be taking so little pains to prevent them." -- Benjamin Rush

• “I lament that we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them…we neglect the only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government; that is, the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible; for this Divine Book, above all others, constitutes the soul of republicanism.” “By withholding the knowledge of [the Scriptures] from children, we deprive ourselves of the best means of awakening moral sensibility in their minds.” -- Benjamin Rush:[Letter written (1790’s) in Defense of the Bible in all schools in America]

"Duty is ours; results are God's. The first and almost the only Book deserving of universal attention is the Bible. I speak as a man of the world to men of the world; and I say to you, Search the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages, and in all conditions of human life; not to be read once or twice or thrice through, and then laid aside, but to be read in small portions of one or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some overruling necessity. In what light so ever we regard the Bible, whether with reference to revelation, to history, or to morality, it is an invaluable and inexhaustible mine of knowledge and virtue. It is no slight testimonial, both to the merit and worth of Christianity, that in all ages since its promulgation the great mass of those who have risen to eminence by their profound wisdom and integrity have recognized and reverenced Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of the living God." "…Posterity- you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." -- John Quincy Adams

15 posted on 01/19/2011 1:18:30 AM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: higgmeister

Hey hm,

Can you provide links or footnotes for those quotes of yours?

I would very much like to use this information when necessary and would like to point people to the reference material.

Thanks,

SCP


16 posted on 01/19/2011 7:14:04 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Who cares what a guy ( who looks like a child molester ) says about anything.


17 posted on 01/19/2011 7:17:22 AM PST by jetson
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To: Walter Scott Hudson

Maher is a chump with a chip on his shoulder that runs his show like a little fascist. Disagree with him and he cuts you off with his ‘I’m in charge’ routine. This guy wouldn’t last 10 minutes in a venue where he wasn’t in complete control.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 7:38:23 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: SoConPubbie
They are in the Library of Congress online with photostats of original letters and other texts. The note about Orange County is my personal knowledge. I lived in Waynesboro across the mountain from Charlottesville for ten years. I graduated from Waynesboro High School.

Religion and the Founding of the American Republic - Introduction

Religion and the Federal Government - Part 1

Religion and the Federal Government - Part 2

Adams's Fast Day Proclamation
John Adams continued the practice, begun in 1775 and adopted under the new federal government by Washington, of issuing fast and thanksgiving day proclamations. In this proclamation, issued at a time when the nation appeared to be on the brink of a war with France, Adams urged the citizens to "acknowledge before God the manifold sins and transgressions with which we are justly chargeable as individuals and as a nation; beseeching him at the same time, of His infinite grace, through the Redeemer of the World, freely to remit all our offences, and to incline us, by His Holy Spirit, to that sincere repentance and reformation which may afford us reason to hope for his inestimable favor and heavenly benediction."
Who does the title Redeemer of the World, sound like to you?

You see, I'm not particularly religious, but my soul has always hungered for Objective truth. The mendacity of the left, prevaricated or simply of omission feels like a true sin against humanity. The pure and simple truth is in the Library of Congress. I don't understand how these weasels have gotten away with it for the last few generations now.

19 posted on 01/19/2011 8:31:50 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: SoConPubbie
“[T]he Founding Fathers would have hated your guts…and what’s more, you would have hated them. They were everything you despise. They studied science, read Plato, hung out in Paris, and thought the Bible was mostly bullshit.”

This sort of makes the Maherster sound like a bohemian baboon doesn't it?!

His producer should just end the pretense and hire him out to test luggage in cages.

20 posted on 01/19/2011 8:42:45 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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