Absolute nonsense. No Chinese or anyone else’s sub could ever get that close to our shore, much less launch a missile.
No friggen plane, no way. I actually know a missile er at Vandenburg. No way is this a plane.
IF... if it was an airplane, how many airplanes were up in the air at that same time WITHOUT leaving a contrail? That is the BUSIEST airspace in the world. 4 major airports.
I still vote contrail. The simplest solution is usually correct.
I believe it was a missile launch.
We've really turned a corner, haven't we?
This "Chinese Missile" event has become a Rorschach Test.
"Please tell me how many Muslim Extremists and/or Chinese ICBMs you see in this Google Valentine's Day logo..."
We never had definitive proof that the December 31st 2009 launch was a plane or missile. All we got is some ridiculous blog page that contains perspective trickery and unverified alternative images of that event that are obviously not the same event. This new report on CNN appears to be from one of the lefty loons. That is the typical Government Disinformation outlet. At least we now know that they are concerned enough to try to lump all the 'its a missile folks crowd' into the lunatic fringe. Typical Government disinfo tactics.
To repost a comment I made on another thread:
Let’s go through the evidence.
First, we do *not* have the U.S. Government reacting in a panic. A fleet of anti-submarine airplanes did *not* race out of San Diego to the potential launch site. The aircraft carrier helping the cruise ship did *not* divert to race to the area. Obama/Biden were *not* whisked away to safety.
Does this behaviour match an unannounced missile launch by an unknown party, or does it match an optical illusion?
Second, we do *not* have anyone gloating nor complaining about it. We do *not* have Russia angrily reminding us that ICBM launches must by treaty be announced in advance. We do *not* have Chinese news stations proudly announcing a successful test.
Does this behaviour match a missile launch within sight of US land, or does it match an optical illusion?
Third, we do *not* have any indication at all of where the hypothetical missle landed. We do *not* have amateur astronomers reporting “meteor” sightings along the possible track nor announcing a new satellite. We do *not* have reports of unexplained radar sightings. We do *not* have a recovery team scouring the area (any area) where it might have landed.
Does this behaviour match a missile launch which must come down somewhere, or does this behaviour match an optical illusion?
Fourth, we have testimony. NORAD claims it did not detect a missile launch. The FAA says its radar tracks don’t show any unexplained fast-moving objects. The pentagon says none of our forces launched anything and whatever it is isn’t a threat to us. The entire US military has the attitude of “Huh? I don’t show anything, do you?”.
Does this behaviour match a missile launch (possible cover story: “Routine test, nothing to be alarmed about”) or does it match an optical illusion?
Against this, we have a video of an pre-existing contrail. It’s hard to judge the speed of the object creating the contrail — it looks to me like the camera is jittering from the helicopter, and the actual object isn’t moving that quickly.
In short, now that more evidence has come forward, I consider the chance of this being a missile launch about as high as the chance that the mainstream media will announce the religion of the next terrorist.
More lies from CNN and China......BS
Its possible to get past SOSUS, if they have inside information, they have the expertise to cloak a sub with “biologicals” noise, in effect make it sound like a whale.
In reality if it had happened we would have seen a pretty hard and fast response by our Naval resources, which did NOT happen.
I am thinking that we shot off something that was aimed at something else, possibly a satellite in a degraded and dangerous re-entry path, maybe an obsolete bird with plutonium aboard, or an old spy bird.
Contrail? After reflection (npi), probably although I want to watch the next few KSC launches really, really carefully. And if so, I'll bet the Chinese are saying "D'oh, why didn't we think of that???"
It’s not DEBKA...so hey it could be true...
It was obviously a missle. Notice how rough, or turbulent the plume was. There is little or no turbulence above 29,000 feet where contrails are formed, so they are much smoother than a rocket plume. That thing was a large rocket.
Instead, we have no air traffic controller reporting anything and the Russians weren't sounding alarms. So, it was probably the contrail of a commercial jet.
There are a couple of bends in this contrail that don't look anything like windblown deviations to me. Especially when the full video is viewed and you can see how short a time it took to lay down what is there.
Commercial aircraft rarely make any noticeable course corrections while flying at altitude.
Considering how fast the government started their disinformation campaign, we will never know the truth.
Let’s see, zero evidence that it is a missile, let alone a Chinese one versus tons of data, logic and plausible reasons that its a contrail.
I go with logic and reason, not with kooks, paranoics and conspiracy losers.
Its a plane, a 757-200, US808 HNL-PHX, just like it was the next day when the same plane, at the same spot made the same kind of contrail.
Case closed, kooks occupy the fringe.....again.....
Oh, no... again? Really?
Really?
What a freakin’ waste of time. Go out this time tomorrow, and if the sky is clear you’ll see US Air flight 808 from Hono to Phx pass over yet again.
Please, people... stop looking so stupid. Please?