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Hawaii DOH Has Destroyed Permanent Records
May 18, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 05/18/2010 8:41:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion

The Hawaii Department of Health claims in official communications that the original birth index and index of foreign births (which are both required to be retained permanently) don't exist.

When vital records were converted to their current electronic format and the computer itself allowed sorting and locating, the HDOH submitted the old, original paper indices (VR-1)to the comptroller for a determination of what should happen to them. The comptroller agreed that those indices should be retained permanently, as originals and/or as security and search microfilms.

The HDOH at the same time made a separate request for the certificates themselves (VR-2)to be analyzed and it was decided that they, too, should be kept as originals and microfilm security and search copies authorized.

So there were 2 different requests for 2 different kinds of documents which were in physical form, able to be microfilmed.

The Hawaii State Archivist says that microfilm copies were not requested for the indices and the Vital Statistics Office should have the originals as required in the retention schedule.

I asked the HDOH for their documentation regarding the destruction of these documents. (Every department is required to keep detailed records of what documents they have destroyed, showing that they followed the retention schedule.) The deadline for them to respond is past and they have not provided those records.

The illegal destruction of permanent records SHOULD prompt an investigation in Hawaii. We will see what the Ombudsman does with this. (Don't hold your breath)

The documentation for all this is on a new post at my blog, which I will link to in the 2nd comment.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; bloggersandpersonal; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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1 posted on 05/18/2010 8:41:44 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Hawaii has always been Third world.


2 posted on 05/18/2010 8:42:49 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: butterdezillion

This is the post with the documentation:

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/hdoh-has-destroyed-original-permanent-records/


3 posted on 05/18/2010 8:42:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
...............DOH!!!!
4 posted on 05/18/2010 8:43:30 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: R_Kangel

Lol.


5 posted on 05/18/2010 8:44:08 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: butterdezillion

The words that come to mind are ones I heard often in my childhood: “Nixon should have burned the tapes.”


6 posted on 05/18/2010 8:45:06 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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To: butterdezillion; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


8 posted on 05/18/2010 8:45:43 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: butterdezillion

How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenient! That’s ok—we know the score despite the subterfuge.


9 posted on 05/18/2010 8:46:07 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: LucyT

Lucy, can you ping the list on this one?

Thanks!


10 posted on 05/18/2010 8:48:36 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
You are vexatious, you requestor you.

Thanks for all you do, BTW.

11 posted on 05/18/2010 8:49:11 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: butterdezillion
The irony is that the birth certificate means nothing. Even if it exists, it cannot hurt him. It's destruction does not shield him.

His father was a British citizen. Therefore, Barack Hussein Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen and is constitutionally ineligible to be president.

Hawaii doesn't enter the picture.

12 posted on 05/18/2010 8:50:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: butterdezillion

Why the drastic lies and drastic measures if they weren’t hiding something?


13 posted on 05/18/2010 8:53:50 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: butterdezillion

Now ain’t THAT a coincidence!


14 posted on 05/18/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Sgt_Schultze

lol

And they’d have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for those vexatious kids and their dumb dog. lol.

Thanks, and you’re welcome. I am proud to be vexatious to the people who are trying to destroy my country and my kids’ futures.


15 posted on 05/18/2010 8:54:22 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

With no proof, I wonder how this will impact the Col. Lakin trial.

I was so hoping he could subpoena those records.


16 posted on 05/18/2010 8:54:45 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: butterdezillion
But these original records have been recommended for the Hawaiian Home Lands program.

Old brochure for Hawaiian Home Lands distinguishing between the Birth Certificate and COLB:


17 posted on 05/18/2010 8:57:02 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: butterdezillion

PS I have also read elsewhere that they were not destroyed.

Curiouser and curiouser . . .


18 posted on 05/18/2010 8:57:17 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Freedom is worth fighting for.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

To document that his father was a British citizen they’d have to use a genuine birth certificate. The only way he’s getting by on ANY of the points by which he could be shown to be ineligible is by never presenting anything genuine, and never HAVING to present anything genuine.

The fact that he’s posted a forgery and that the HDOH is breaking the law to cover for him SHOULD get him into legal trouble though. If we had any law enforcement in this country, that is.


19 posted on 05/18/2010 8:57:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: cvq3842

I thought I read they were burned in a fire (?)

If they don’t even have them, why bother with that law that said they could ignore requests?

Hmmmmm


20 posted on 05/18/2010 8:59:43 AM PDT by justsaynomore (The Hermantor - 2012 - www.hermancain.com)
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