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The Court and Congress Expected the Other to Resolve the Obama Eligibility Question
A Place to Ask Questions to Get the Right Answers ^ | 4-17-10 | Mario Apuzzo

Posted on 04/17/2010 2:34:13 PM PDT by STARWISE

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Rep. Serrano: I’m glad to hear that you don’t think that there has to be a judge on the Court because I am not a judge. I have never been a judge.

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Regarding the hearing,listening to it for the 7th or 8th time, I'm not sure I come away with the same impression as the article that this exchange was subtle but pointed jibing about the 0 eligibility issue; and, I, of course, could very well be wrong. This was the exchange I transcribed from about the 1:13:00 mark.

Serrano: So, we always thank you for your service and all the other 7, we do the same

Thomas: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It’s always an honor being here. You and I have been at this together for a decade and a half

Serrano: I’m glad to hear you don’t think there has to be a judge on the court up here ‘cause I’m not a judge

Thomas: And you don’t have to be born in the United States, so you never have to answer that question.

Serrano: On really? So you haven’t answered the question if I can serve as president, but you’re answering this one ?

Thomas: We’re evading that one .. we’re giving you another option ..

Laughter

Laughter

Open to interpretation, I guess.

1 posted on 04/17/2010 2:34:13 PM PDT by STARWISE
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~~PING!


2 posted on 04/17/2010 2:34:55 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

“Open to interpretation, I guess.”

Stick with your instincts. The best interpretation comes from watching the video. This was not a hostile exchange, else there wouldn’t have been so much laughter involved. It was pure banter. Justice Thomas did not send (nor did Serrano receive) a “hidden” message about BHO’s NBC status. Thomas references to “you” clearly were to Serrano himself not to Congress in general.

This is the kind of ludicrous cherry-picking of evidence that leads people down the path of believing 9-11 was a GWB-led conspiracy to expand the power of the president. One can sustain such out-of-touch theories only by conveniently ignoring all the countervailing evidence.


3 posted on 04/17/2010 2:49:24 PM PDT by DrC
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To: STARWISE
Well, since he is in office and the “birther issue” allows us to be painted as wing nuts, we should all just curl up in a ball and watch obamao destroy what is left of our Country.

After all, he got 53% of the vote so we have no right to voice our complaint's let alone outrage that our beloved Constitution is being used by the White House and the Congress so we just better sit down and shut up lest we be labeled as racist wing nuts. Osama's mama her self could give birth to a child that one day that could become POTUS, as long as the child was born on US soil and was elected by an ignorant, uninformed people.

Besides, being called names really hurts my feelings

Do I need a sarcasm tag?

4 posted on 04/17/2010 2:51:01 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Used = trashed.

I hate when I screw up a rant.


5 posted on 04/17/2010 2:52:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: STARWISE

You should have put Orly’s name in here somewhere, this thread would be crawling with posts by now :)


6 posted on 04/17/2010 3:03:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: STARWISE

From the article:
“From this comment we can conclude that Congress did not believe that it was its job to answer the question of whether Obama is eligible to be President and expected the judicial branch of government to answer that question.”

Congress could only believe that if it also believed it was somehow relieved of its oath to defend the Constitution when it certified O as President at its Jan 2009 Joint Session.

Fortunately, Apuzzo set out 3 USC 15 in his Kerchner pleadings. That statute describes the steps by Congress during the Session to confirm O’s eligibility.

Attn: Rep Serrano.
You and every other member of Congress, including the Republican “leadership”, ignored your oaths of office, sat on your hands during the Session and took no action!


7 posted on 04/17/2010 3:23:41 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! The Socialists are winning the long war against you and your Constitution!)
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To: frog in a pot

The usurper wont be running in 2012...he will need a birth certificate.


8 posted on 04/17/2010 3:37:20 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: STARWISE
Justice Thomas then answered that the Court is “evading that one” and giving Congress “another option.” Here we can see that the Court is telling Congress that it avoided addressing the Obama eligibility issue so Congress could resolve it through the political process, giving Congress some other unknown “option” to resolve the crisis.

Egads. Buy a dictionary. "Evading" and "avoiding" mean two totally different things. Thomas didn't say they were skipping (avoiding) around the issue, he basically said they knew there was a huge problem and were being sneaky and deceptive (evading) to the people in not solving the problem. Many here think Thomas is on our side. I don't. He admitted they were intentionally playing hot potato with it and we will be stuck with an evil doer in the WH until he decides it's time to step down.

9 posted on 04/17/2010 3:40:41 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: STARWISE
My sense is that the political elites all know Obama wasn't eligible for the presidency and they collectively have done nothing about it because they are terrified of the likely riots and civil unrest. Reminds me of the story of the emperor's new clothes - folks outside the ruling class are starting to point and stare.
10 posted on 04/17/2010 3:40:57 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: biggredd1

Hahahahahahaha! And you think there will be free elections in 2010.


11 posted on 04/17/2010 3:43:51 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: STARWISE
We can reasonably expect Obama to run for a second term. We surely do not want to repeat during Obama’s second run for President what occurred during his first.

If we've learned anything it's that we can't trust government to take care of us, we have to take care of ourselves. Some states are already starting legislation to provide proof of elgibility before a candidate can be on the state ballot. Should be every state in the Union.

If Obama can't qualify for 2012, then he can't run plain and simple.

12 posted on 04/17/2010 3:44:43 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Menehune56

These unknown happenings of civil unrest and riots are nothing compared to the civil unrest and riots when this usurper gets finished with us.


13 posted on 04/17/2010 3:45:16 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: biggredd1

“The usurper wont be running in 2012...he will need a birth certificate.”

Most of us certainly hope that is the case. However, there are two concerns.
1. He may indeed present a “BC”. Thus, it would only be acceptable if he authorized the State of Hawaii to release his BC.
2. The possibility of suspending elections due to some catastrophic event.

From an earlier post:
Per a July 11, 2004 Reuters article:
“DeForest Soaries (the chairman of the new U.S. Election Assistance Commission) claimed ‘the federal government has no agency that has the statutory authority to cancel and reschedule a federal election.’

“Soaries wanted Ridge (then Homeland Security Secretary) to ask Congress to pass legislation. It appears Ridge then asked the Justice Department to review what legal steps would be needed to delay the election…”

Fast forward: O has stacked “his” Justice Department and it could be expected to reach whatever position he wished. Imagine if it were to advise him that no legislation by Congress was required for him to suspend presidential elections.

In this regard, I often wonder the amount of time between the last moment the USSR believed the Berlin Wall was secure and the moment the guards took no action while folks were demolishing it.


14 posted on 04/17/2010 4:16:13 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! The Socialists are winning the long war against you and your Constitution!)
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To: Menehune56

Outside the country too. Foreigners who may believe Obama to be not legitimate, can challenge the totality of his administration as illegitimate if they want to, including ALL its actions, for some advantage to themselves.

The potential for chaos and disruption of US policy and foreign political and fiancial relations is infinite, and so there is understandable relutance to set the issue free. The fact that a high official of the US has challengable, doubtful credentials is and has been a major issue of national security and challenges all branches of govt., both political parties and the states themselves for allowing such a candidacy in the first place. Both political parties allowed the candidacy to occur...go figure. Why?


15 posted on 04/17/2010 4:18:29 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: givemELL
Because when it is found he is illegit, but refuses to step down, the country will be split right down the middle. We will, in effect, be in Civil War, and in a very weak, very precarious position, which is exactly what his handlers want.
16 posted on 04/17/2010 4:25:28 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: STARWISE

Maybe I am just guessing (and perhaps hoping).....but is Justice Thomas giving us a “heads up”? Is he dropping a hint?

From what I understand, the Supreme Court cannot, or at least procedurally does not initiate actions without an appeal or a petition being submitted. They probably know a lot more than they would be comfortable to admit.

And don’t forget, Obama pissed them off during the State of the Union Address. Is Justice Thomas showing his cards?

Stay tuned?


17 posted on 04/17/2010 5:24:20 PM PDT by PWK arch
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To: PWK arch
The SCOTUS is waiting for the lawyers to present a case with the correct plaintiff, correct defendants and correct premise. When that case, through legal manipulations, finally makes it through the labyrinth of our judicial system. They WILL give the correct decision.
18 posted on 04/17/2010 8:03:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: STARWISE
Justice Thomas then answered that the Court is “evading that one” and giving Congress “another option.” Here we can see that the Court is telling Congress that it avoided addressing the Obama eligibility issue so Congress could resolve it through the political process, giving Congress some other unknown “option” to resolve the crisis.

This "other option" was a lighthearted suggestion of a new career for the Congressman, it had nothing to do with Congress or the eligibility issue.

It's stuff like this that makes birthers look like conspiracy theory loonies.

19 posted on 04/17/2010 8:07:03 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: STARWISE

Beat, drum. Beat!


20 posted on 04/17/2010 8:59:43 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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