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Illinois Dangerous 'Presumed Consent' Organ Donor Bill
Publius Forum ^ | 03/06/10 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 03/06/2010 11:14:50 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus

Illinois State Senator Dale Risinger (R, Peoria) has offered a bill in Springfield that drives our society further along the path of making parts of the human body a commodity, undercutting the sacred status of human life.

SB 3613, the Presumed Donor bill, amends the Illinois Anatomical Gift Act to define all Illinois patients as "presumed donors" unless they specifically avail themselves of the opt out clause. In other words, unless you tell the government that in the case of your presumed brain death you don't want your body parts cut out and donated to other patients, they will be cut out and given to others.

As the law stands now a potential donor has to opt in to the organ donor program in order to allow the government to authorize usage of organs in case of brain death. One must inform the state ahead of time that one will agree to donate his organs. This bill would reverse that process of consent. If SB 3613 passes all patients will be assumed to be fodder for transplants unless they've specifically told the state that they do not want their body parts to be parceled out to other people...

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Yes we need more organ donors but this isn't the right way to go about it.
1 posted on 03/06/2010 11:14:50 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Reminds me of a story I read here a few weeks ago about the guy in England who had a heart attack and was allowed to die because some bureaucrat had placed a BLANK “Do Not Rescue” form in his medical records. Nice.


2 posted on 03/06/2010 11:20:55 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud American-American since 1949.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
We've come for your liver!


3 posted on 03/06/2010 11:25:39 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I have made a living will which prohibits the re-use of my organs. There is also a codicil which states that in the event my wishes are overridden by an intrusive, scurrilous State or Federal law - all organs are hereby infused with black magic hexes and anyone in possession of said organs will suffer bouts of Tourette’s syndrome manifesting karaoke outbursts of “I think I’m going out of my head*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpXPGQT8zqM&feature=related


4 posted on 03/06/2010 11:25:46 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

Maybe the state will sell the “donated” organs. They need the money!


5 posted on 03/06/2010 11:29:54 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

A simple solution would be to continue the organ donation program as an “Opt In” basis however, grant those who have opted in to the program priority if they are sometime in need of a donor organ.

In other words, those that are willing to give an organ are granted preference if they are in need of an organ.


6 posted on 03/06/2010 11:32:07 AM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: The Antiyuppie

***Maybe the state will sell the “donated” organs. They need the money!***

Lotteries;(


7 posted on 03/06/2010 11:35:24 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

How about this: a law that says that Illinois State Senators are presumed annual donors to those less fortunate, and their bank accounts can be assessed up to 80% upon request by anyone having a smaller income. They may freely opt out by signing up at an opt-out list each year.


8 posted on 03/06/2010 11:35:36 AM PST by john in springfield
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To: john in springfield

Note this is for a very good cause and will help “spread the wealth around.”


9 posted on 03/06/2010 11:36:07 AM PST by john in springfield
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The Chi-Coms take their executed prisoners and harvest their organs for transplant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_in_the_People’s_Republic_of_China

This bill shows you how much they own you.

New movie coming out called “Repo Men.” They harvest your artificial organs they have transplanted into you when you can’t make the payments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9Nvg4yuus


11 posted on 03/06/2010 11:41:47 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Has Repomen hit the theaters yet?

http://informationtypes.blogspot.com/2009/12/movie-repo-men-2010.html


12 posted on 03/06/2010 11:42:47 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Jinx!


14 posted on 03/06/2010 11:43:28 AM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The feds will be deciding IF you are brain dead under obamadeathcare.

How one votes AFFECTS US ALL!

It ain’t dead until congress is recessed and we flip at least 1 in Nov, or we will be fighting this battle for 3 more years!

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


15 posted on 03/06/2010 12:02:27 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: sodpoodle

With the rich getting first dibs!

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16 posted on 03/06/2010 12:04:06 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

When we pass on they steal our money.. now our organs.. they’re working on our souls...


17 posted on 03/06/2010 12:14:34 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

So I guess with government healthcare, since the government will foot the bill, and decide what is and is not in our best interest, virtually owning us and our bodies, they will have the right and AUTHORITY to harvest our parts whether we want them to or not.


18 posted on 03/06/2010 12:16:55 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I usually avoid posting on this because of what some horrid Troll said to me in a thread. I have first hand experience of what the Organ Trade did to my family member. I was refused despite my request to see the CAT scan of the family member. When we decided to “donate organs” the Donor place took my family member after the “retrieval” of his organs, fraudulently out of the hospital by forging documents as to who they were, took him to their “place”, scavenged the rest of his body, and then took him to the funeral home. We were informed by the director what had occurred (he had seen it too many times and was suspicious of the Donor Group, he later filed an affidavit of the fraud that occurred with the court). This group committed fraud, desecration, and weren’t satisfied with the “organs” that we donated. They went on to refuse to return the remains, sold them at a “profit”, which then they were “resold” for $125,000 of “product”. During this entire year of hell of dealing with them, they gave us essentially “the finger” as there were NO LAWS to prevent them from what they had been doing for YEARS. They had, by law, “unlimited immunity”. I took care of what I could through a new law in my state which I essentially wrote. They (the group) went public in disparaging me, which essentially ruined my life at the time. Any positive that I had felt about donating my immediate relatives organs, was blown apart by the “criminality” (IMHO) and fraud of this group.

I have seen this from the nasty, illegal, undercurrent of the “Body Part” trade. I have told my family, that this group will never, ever, have access to my remains. AFter all the stress they cause me and the ruination of my life and reputation, my organs aren’t much good anyway, but these “criminals” will have nothing of mine.

My worries about them after the retrieval of the organs and what they might do to my relative’s body, was well founded and unfortunately turned out to be true.


19 posted on 03/06/2010 1:26:16 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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When I was researching the laws about “bodies”, essentially the governing belief was that as a “courtesy” to families, the Gvt. has given a family the “courtesy” to determine what happens to their loved ones after death. Essentially, the Govt. legally has more “say” than families do and it’s only a “courtesy” that the families are given the “right” to specify. Families don’t “own” the body of their loved one. It’s a govt. courtesy.


20 posted on 03/06/2010 1:29:13 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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