Posted on 12/22/2009 10:07:59 AM PST by Shellybenoit
Many opponents of Obamacare have been saying it doesn't matter if it gets passed, if the GOP takes over in 2010 they will repeal it. Sorry that will not be possible. The bill making its way through the Senate includes a clause that requires a two-thirds vote to amend or repeal certain sections of the bill. Section 3403 of Senator Harry Reid's amendment (page 1020)
(A) IN GENERAL.—It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, or amendment, pursuant to this subsection or conference2 report thereon, that fails to satisfy the requirements of subparagraphs (A)(i) and (C) of sub4section (c)(2).
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Its not according to the Senate rules or Constitution. I don’t think it means legally.
But like Rush said, its fascism.
Seems to me that clause, itself, would be unconstitutional.
Is there precedent for this?
... complete violation of democratic principles, rights and process.
the arrogant liars.... are hard at it foisting on America what she does not want.
Childishness. “I CALLED it that I’m left fielder. And I now CALL IT that you can never change that, either. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo.”
In this context, of course — “I CALLED IT that ReidCare is forever” — it’s not funny.
... complete violation of democratic principles, rights and process.
the arrogant liars.... are hard at it foisting on America what she does not want.
Reid to McConnell: “Don’t worry Mitch, we’ll just take it out during reconciliation.”
McConnell to Reid: “Okay, then. As long as you promise you’ll take it out, right?”
DEMINT: But, Mr. President, as the chair has confirmed, Rule 22, paragraph 2, of the standing rules of the Senate, states that on a measure or motion to amend the Senate rules, the necessary affirmative vote shall be two-thirds of the senators present and voting. Let me go to the bill before us, because buried deep within the over 2,000 pages of this bill, we find a rather substantial change to the standing rules of the Senate. It is section 3403 and it begins on page 1,000 of the Reid substitute. . . . These provisions not only amend certain rules, they waive certain rules and create entirely new rules out of whole cloth.”
The Senate President disagreed and said it was a change in procedure, not a change in rules, therefore the Senate precedent that a two-thirds vote is required to change the rules of the Senate does not apply.
Senator DeMint responded:
DEMINT: and so the language you see in this bill that specifically refers to a change in a rule is not a rule change, it’s a procedure change?
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: that is correct.
DEMINT: then i guess our rules mean nothing, do they, if they can re define them. thank you. and i do yield back.
THE PRESIDING OFFICER: the senate stands adjourned until 7:00 a.m. tomorrow.
That’s right. When confronted with the facts, the Senate Democrats ran for cover. The Senate Democrats are ignoring the constitution, the law, and their own rules to pass Obamacare.
http://normanhooben.blogspot.com/2009/12/section-3403-is-this-death-of-america.html
We are on the way to dictatorship. Isn’t it fitting a strange little drip like Harry Reid would bring it about?
Republicans better focus on the real issues or else they deserve to e replaced by a third party. A party of freedom.
Democrats....don't need no stinking Constitution.....
Waiting for the Supremes to rule on this.
Forcing US Citizens to purchase Gov’t goods? Based upon what Constitutional backing?
Stating that a law cannot be repealed? Based upon what ruling?
yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort
yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort
yet another unconstitutional aspect of an unconstitutional effort
tar and feathers would be a good start
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