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American Troops Dying In Afghanistan Thanks To Obama’s New Rules Of Engagement
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Posted on 09/18/2009 7:03:20 AM PDT by big black dog

This is what happens when we wage lawfare instead of warfare.

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NATO-led forces are investigating the death of four Marines in eastern Afghanistan after their commanders reportedly rejected requests for artillery fire in a battle with insurgents, the Pentagon said on Wednesday.

Tuesday’s incident was “under investigation” and details remained unclear, press secretary Geoff Morrell told a news conference.

A McClatchy newspapers’ journalist who witnessed the battle reported that a team of Marine trainers made repeated appeals for air and artillery support after being pinned down by insurgents in the village of Ganjgal in eastern Kunar province.

The U.S. troops had to wait more than an hour for attack helicopters to come to their aid and their appeal for artillery fire was rejected, with commanders citing new rules designed to avoid civilian casualties, the report said.

Morrell said the helicopters were not hampered by any restrictions on air power but had to travel a long distance to reach the Marines at the remote location near the Pakistan border.

“I think that it did take some time for close air support to arrive in this case, but this is not a result of more restrictive conditions in which it can be used,” he said.

“It was the result, as is often the case in Afghanistan, of the fact that there are great distances often between bases where such assets are located and where our troops are out operating.”

Morrell could not confirm whether appeals for artillery fire were denied by commanders.

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I’m all for avoiding civilian casualties. I am never, however, in favor of hanging out troops out to dry while their commanders try to comply with the ridiculous rules of engagement foisted on them by the politicians.


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1 posted on 09/18/2009 7:03:20 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog

this is hearbreaking .....obama has gone vietnam .american lives are worthless while terrorists are valued to is society


2 posted on 09/18/2009 7:05:15 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: big black dog

This WILL be another Vietnam if our president and high command do not let our soldiers eliminate the enemy with extreme prejudice.


3 posted on 09/18/2009 7:06:21 AM PDT by Karma Police (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!)
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To: big black dog

All enemy deaths in Afghanistan are civilians, for the simple reason that the enemy does not wear uniforms.

All civilian deaths are therefore the enemy’s fault.


4 posted on 09/18/2009 7:06:22 AM PDT by agere_contra (The Democrats use Black people as human shields.)
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To: big black dog
The U.S. troops had to wait more than an hour for attack helicopters to come to their aid and their appeal for artillery fire was rejected, with commanders citing new rules designed to avoid civilian casualties, the report said.

Deja Vu...Vietnam redux.

5 posted on 09/18/2009 7:08:01 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: big black dog

I’m going to keep on repeating this . . . . the Taliban, and all Islamic fanatics that use bombs and bullets to create terror and death, are CIVILIANS!!! No matter what touchy-feely idiotic rules of engagement we force on our troops, we will always be killing civilians in the Arab press. Get over it! Do the job right!!


6 posted on 09/18/2009 7:08:18 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: agere_contra

Didn’t all the idiot libs call for impeachment when troops died under Bush ??

Will PMSNBC cover this outrage?


7 posted on 09/18/2009 7:08:37 AM PDT by Gillmeister
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To: big black dog

Sadly, we’ve been through this before.
It’s political manipulation to destroy all support at home.
0bama is hell-bent on civil unrest in the streets of America.
It’s disgusting.


8 posted on 09/18/2009 7:09:24 AM PDT by two23 (czars are for commies)
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To: big black dog

Remarkable how QUIET the MSM is. This same organization was keeping a body count and demanding pictures of flag-draped coffins a short while ago. OOOPS! That’s right. The evil George was president then. Makes all the difference, it seems.


9 posted on 09/18/2009 7:09:31 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Gillmeister

“Will PMSNBC cover this outrage?”

*Crickets Chirping*


10 posted on 09/18/2009 7:09:33 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: big black dog

We are a military family..all retired now. When I see what is happening to our troops just breaks my heart.
What exactly is going on?


11 posted on 09/18/2009 7:09:50 AM PDT by americanmother (2nd Tim chapter 3)
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To: Conservative_Rob

Like the quote from “Breaker Morant” about the Boer War, “It’s a new war for a new century, George.”


12 posted on 09/18/2009 7:09:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Conservative_Rob

Well said!


13 posted on 09/18/2009 7:10:19 AM PDT by agere_contra (The Democrats use Black people as human shields.)
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To: big black dog

Everybody call your reps and take it to the streets.


14 posted on 09/18/2009 7:10:45 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: big black dog

Congress sets ROE, the President follow their lead.


15 posted on 09/18/2009 7:11:12 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: big black dog
The people in America's military are the best our country has to offer: selfless and brave, beyond measure.

On behalf of my country, I sincerely apologize to them for those Americans who voted for Obama. I tried to warn people - many of us did - but obviously we didn't do enough.

There are times I wonder whether the rest of America is truly worthy of our military’s sacrifices.

16 posted on 09/18/2009 7:12:55 AM PDT by cvq3842 (I don't ask what my country can do for me - I ask my government to STOP doing things TO me!)
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To: Karma Police
I have no faith in Gates who is nothing but Obama’s puppet. Fighting with one hand tied behind our back didn't work in Vietnam and it sure as hell won't work in Afghanistan. It's sick to think that Obama has as much military experience as a newborn baby and he's calling the shots.
17 posted on 09/18/2009 7:14:07 AM PDT by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: big black dog

What was good, for Dresden, should be good, for Afghanistan. ................... See, I said that like the President does with a teleprompter.


18 posted on 09/18/2009 7:16:59 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (DON'T BLAME ME I VOTED FOR "PALIN"!)
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To: Conservative_Rob

You are right on the money.


19 posted on 09/18/2009 7:17:57 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: big black dog

There needs to be a reckoning. Every government type and MSM trash hole needs to be held accountable.


20 posted on 09/18/2009 7:18:03 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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