Posted on 07/07/2009 9:04:20 PM PDT by tenger
Do conservatives need to break away from the Republican [and Democrat] party? A Daily Poll.
Perhaps I miss the intent, meaning of your request. I don’t understand the word “Conservative” in the same text with the word “Democrat”.
come now, there are conservatives in the Democratic party. What do they call them, Blue dogs or something? they exist and I think they’re fed up with the ways of their liberal friends.
Many Tea Parties involve Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, and Independents. Not only do these Tea Parties indicate discontent with the Government, they indicate that there is/are significant discontent against Dems and Repub status quo practices and policies. Hence why recent polling indicated that more and more people are identifying themselves as Independents when they once called themselves Dems and/or Repubs.
With Barry’s continuing policies to wreck this country and with the continued lack of ANY viable Repub alternative, the time is right for a 3rd party to emerge.
Conservative Democrats are far different from Conservatives I would believe.
Let’s just say that a Conservative Democrat can be mistaken as sane while a Democrat is a positive I.D.
With Conservative Republican Gov. Palin, I will stay
with the party and the person who has the best chance to beat Obama, Gov. Palin.
Third Party loons don’t want Conservative leadership or a Conservative President, the reason for trying to divide the Republican Party
Wow...I’m kinda surprised to see 79% of the voters saying YES. I ‘m happy to see that.
Stop the ridiculous practice of “open primaries”.
Come up with a compromise agreement for term limits.
Restore the rights to the individual States that have been illegally stolen by the Federal government.
Do all of that, and we shouldn’t need a third party.
But the Republican leadership has got to stop it’s pandering to the left, and standing by while the Democrats play by a different set of rules.
Grow some balls or get out of the way!
I would say YES but it doesn’t mean 3rd party - I think that we need true conservative leaders and a grassroots movement - the tea parties have been wonderful thus far and I think there is more to come... who knows there may be someone on the horizon to really start a conservative revolution ;) At that point the RINOs can either get on the conservative train or get run over!
Third parties don’t work, never have. Its the fastest way to elect Democrats.
Exactly.
Baldwin is an anti war, 9/11 Truther POS
We’ve got a leader and she is making her move. We don’t need a freaking Ross Perot party.
3rd parties have not worked because they failed to produce a strong and viable enough candidate(s) not necessarily because of their policies, etc.
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Ridiculous. Teddy Roosevelt was a strong and viable a candidate as you’ll ever find. If it didn’t work for him, it isn’t going to work for some delusional nitwit.
Republicans need to break free from liberals. Democrats need to break free from totalitarian Stalinists.
It never stops. Now serious people ask “Who wants to weaken the only alternative to the Democrat party? And why?”
The DU haw been given their marching orders to
crank up the third party loons on FR.
They can’t hack it that Gov. Palin has great support especially on FR, so it is the old divide the Republicans
so Obama wins again
Right, and if a “Teddy Roosevelt” ran in 2012?
Times then are different from the times today, and despite your legitimate doubts to the contrary, given the growing discontent among voters towards Dems and Repubs, as illustrated in recent pollings that indicated that people/voters are increasingly shifting more and more to identifying themselves as Independents rather than Dems and Repubs, I would argue that people/voters are grwoing increasingly open to the notion of a 3rd party given an acceptable alternative or candidate(s).
Have you considered the Republican Party circa 1860?
What voters? There’s only one political spectrum...so you either carve voters out of the left or the right. Whichever side you carve more out of loses. If you think you can take the middle, go ahead, but to what end? You’ll simply get a smaller version of what you have now.
Oh, I know - and I’m excited! :) ditto on the 3rd Party stuff
Why don’t you just vote for Obama as that is the outcome of third parties dividing Republicans.
24/7 Liberal News
Vast majority who grad from highschool and Univ.
are Liberal
Union workers, majority liberal.
Third parties are lucky to get 2%
Just enough to swing an election to Obama
Yes, it emerged within the context of a far more multipolar system - Federalists, Democratic-Republicans, Whigs, Democrats, Know-Nothings, Constitutional Unionists, etc, etc. In the modern era, since the establishment of the two major political parties, each rought corresponding to one side of the political spectrum, no 3rd party has amounted to anything.
Third parties on the right or left are doomed, but one in the center is possible. RINOs and DINOs together might win. The GOP would then be a pure conservative party.
and pigs would fly if they had wings.
I wonder why that is./s
Under my scenario, where the RINOs voluntarily leave, the trick will be getting them to do it. Putting in Sarah as the leader might one way.
Tactically it would be a dumb thing, since it would cost conservatives in districts, unless used sparingly and locally/regionally at first.
2ndly I think the best course of action for Conservatives would be to 1) Win Republican Primaries wherever they can, 2) Where there are overwhelming Democratic Party Reg (with no chance of R win, then Run as Independent Conservatives and 3) Where possible run in the Democratic Party as well, hopefully win a few..isn’t the goal here in politics in government to move the country in a more “right” direction no matter which party we use, anyway..
A bigger problem for third party candidacies is the monopolistic control of ballot access created by Repulicans and Democrats. These two parties have passed laws demanding higher filing fees, and huge petitioning requirements that ensure third parties will expend time and resources just to get on the ballot. Time and resources that could be better spent campaigning.
Conservatives have been Persona Non Grata in the Republican Party for awhile so they might as well leave
You are so right that the 3rd Party types are not there to grow a party except to split the GOP. When they run someone for Senate like in MN, it gave us Franken because they take votes away from the GOP candidate every time.
People got suckered by Perot and should remember it gave us 8 years of Clinton.
If they spent the time trying to change the GOP from within instead of splitting it, we would all be better off which makes me wonder about all the 3rd party talk on here — what is the motive. We know we have Dem trolls. It is so obvious most of the time.
I will vote for non-statist candidates that make restoring the Constitution a top priority. If those candidates are not Republican, that’s fine.
Change you can believe in? The only thing a new 3rd party will do is split the right and ensure Democrat victories, you can take it to the bank.
Ditto.
Not everyone is into the media driven drama of Calif.
Most of the cars I see daily in my city are from East coast, midwest, south, North, and loads daily from your state.
Probably the main problem is the Federal mandate to take care of illegals which we have a huge numbers of, costing California taxpayers billions a year in social services and criminal system.
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