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93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill
ASSOC PRESS ^ | 1-26-09 | ASSOC PRESS

Posted on 01/26/2009 3:59:22 PM PST by nbhunt

BAY CITY, Mich. - A 93-year-old man froze to death inside his home just days after the municipal power company restricted his use of electricity because of unpaid bills, officials said. Marvin E. Schur died "a slow, painful death," said Kanu Virani, Oakland County's deputy chief medical examiner, who performed the autopsy.

Neighbors discovered Schur's body on Jan. 17. They said the indoor temperature was below 32 degrees at the time, The Bay City Times reported Monday.

"Hypothermia shuts the whole system down, slowly," Virani said. "It's not easy to die from hypothermia without first realizing your fingers and toes feel like they're burning."

A city utility worker had installed a "limiter" device to restrict the use of electricity at Schur's home on Jan. 13, said Bay City Manager Robert Belleman. The device limits power reaching a home and blows out like a fuse if consumption rises past a set level. Power is not restored until the device is reset.

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How sad is this. Where was this man's family? Then again, he could have been too proud to let them know he was in trouble.
1 posted on 01/26/2009 3:59:22 PM PST by nbhunt
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I wonder if he belonged to a church. It’s an incredibly pathetic story.


2 posted on 01/26/2009 4:01:31 PM PST by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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"Where was this man's family? Then again, he could have been too proud to let them know he was in trouble."

Who knows where they were when he died, but I can assure you they will be seen at an attorney's office very soon.

3 posted on 01/26/2009 4:02:58 PM PST by KoRn
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A young person may have been able to survive the low temperatures. Elderly folks don’t have a chance.


4 posted on 01/26/2009 4:03:21 PM PST by CH3CN
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To: nbhunt

We’re from the government and we’re here to help.


5 posted on 01/26/2009 4:09:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Plenty of money to spend for this, though.

“I look forward to working with Congress to restore U.S. financial support for the U.N. Population Fund,” Obama said Saturday.

Only the beginning, people.


6 posted on 01/26/2009 4:20:27 PM PST by beelzepug (the Gadsden flag is now flying in my front yard)
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To: nbhunt

What a sad story.

There is no excuse for this.

How hard could it be to look at the file of this guy and see that this was a very old man who most likely needed a little help and some kindness?


7 posted on 01/26/2009 4:24:03 PM PST by JRochelle (Don't smoke the Hopium.)
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To: nbhunt
LOW INCOME HOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM

LIHEAP

8 posted on 01/26/2009 4:26:51 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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Huh, I thought all the government entitlement programs that steal from the young are justified by supposedly preventing these sort of tragedies happening to the abandoned elderly.

I guess that's another mistake I've made.

9 posted on 01/26/2009 4:29:45 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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Very sad.

But I wonder. When the press is in multicultural mode, they defend the practice among some tribal peoples in the far north of senilicide by hypothermia, saying that hypothermia is a peaceful and painless death.

Now, when it happens in the lower 48 thanks to government malfeasance (can you imagine the firestorm if it had been a private utility?), hypothermia is described as a slow, painful death.

Anyone reading the thread ever have an near brush with death by hypothermia and care to comment from experience?


10 posted on 01/26/2009 4:31:54 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Who knows where they were when he died, but I can assure you they will be seen at an attorney's office very soon.

No children, wife died several years ago.

In one of the other articles posted about this on FR tonight, it said that he had money clipped to the electric bill - guess they never told him when they put the limiter on his meter or the employee "wasn't authorized" to accept payment.

11 posted on 01/26/2009 4:32:07 PM PST by Abby4116
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"Where was this man's family?"

Article says he had no children and his wife passed several years ago. He owed $1,100 and the neighbor that found him found the bill on the table with cash clipped to it.

IMHO, cutting someone power when temps are that low just shouldn't be done.

12 posted on 01/26/2009 4:32:54 PM PST by sweet_diane (embracing Him)
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The poor old man was almost certainly mentally impaired. The electric company should never have been allowed to shut off his electricity in January. The government and social service agencies should have been notified to intervene.
13 posted on 01/26/2009 4:33:53 PM PST by iowamark
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"Huh, I thought all the government entitlement programs that steal from the young are justified by supposedly preventing these sort of tragedies happening to the abandoned elderly."

An elderly member of my Husband's family did without... she didn't want to have to ask for the assistance when her bill fell behind. And the utility company never offered.

14 posted on 01/26/2009 4:35:39 PM PST by sweet_diane (embracing Him)
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An elderly member of my Husband's family did without... she didn't want to have to ask for the assistance when her bill fell behind. And the utility company never offered.

That is sad, but also inspiring. To me, it tells of an individual who accepted her fate without lowering her standards. Applause.

You know, death isn't the worst thing that can befall someone with standards.

15 posted on 01/26/2009 4:41:33 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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I can imagine that he cried quietly as he froze to death, in hopes of seeing his wife again.
A sad, lonely old man, going over in his mind the memories of a lifetime, and how he came to be in the place he was.

Rest in peace, for you are now in a far better place. I hope you are again with your beloved.

16 posted on 01/26/2009 4:43:10 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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How could such a tragedy happen in a state and city run by do-gooder Democrats?


17 posted on 01/26/2009 4:45:21 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: cripplecreek

Qbamawama is gleefully supplying the tax payers money to help murder the mst innocent, an old man freezing to death in the name of money means nothing.

I suppose the next step will be restricting the number of children a couple can have with the results of having more would be that the goverment taking them to the ovens.

The slope is well greased and the way down is swift and unstoppable.


18 posted on 01/26/2009 4:47:31 PM PST by chiefqc
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“Anyone reading the thread ever have an near brush with death by hypothermia and care to comment from experience?”

Well, I don’t know how close I ever got to hypothermia, but one time when I was hunting (in Northern Illinois) a few years back in early December my toes got to hurting like hell (and I was dressed in good cold-weather gear, such as Sorrel winter boots, thermal and wool socks, etc.) so I headed back to my Jeep to get out of the elements, and by the time I got there my toes were completely numb: I couldn’t feel them at all. However, after about 30 minutes sitting in my Jeep with the heater on I felt my toes again; and HOW, I felt my toes! A pain that was beyond pain as my toes regained circulation. That was frostbite. If hypothermia is anything like that, I never want to experience it.


19 posted on 01/26/2009 5:02:02 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Hey, the real story is that this man had no family. The GOVERNMENT run utility installed a device on his electricity that limited the amount of power he could draw into his house. If he went over, it shut it off like a circuit breaker. His furnace did not run! He froze! The city run utility did this to him!

He had money on his kitchen table clipped to utility bills, it sort of sounds like he had the money but just had not paid the bill. Sometimes people in their 90’s forget things. For sure no one should have expected him to remember how to go out and reset his limiter device on the power pole.

It is a little different write-up in the local paper and explains a few more details:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2172273/posts

If this had been Consumers Energy, the big utility in the area, I’m sure heads would be rolling. This is a small town that does not let Consumers provide power, they have their own city run utility. The city is run by clowns, for the most part.


20 posted on 01/26/2009 5:08:27 PM PST by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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