Posted on 01/09/2009 6:13:35 AM PST by Federalist Patriot
Here is video of conservative pundit Pat Buchanan on MSNBC yesterday making comments about Israel that are just amazing. Buchanan likens Israel's Ground Offensive in Gaza to the Nazi "blitzkrieg," actually using the word in describing it. He also went a step further and says that Gaza is an "Israeli concentration camp," where "cruelty" by Israel is taking place.
Let's step back for a moment. I have always liked Pat Buchanan's analysis when he is talking about inside the Beltway political matters. He is a very good analyst on those things. But he has real blinders when it comes to Israel. Every so often he pops off and says things that are bizarre. I don't enjoy criticizing Pat, but he is just dead wrong when it comes to Israel.
To think that Israel should be content to just accept Hamas or Hezbollah lobbing "little missiles," as Buchanan called them, into their country is irrational. Israel has every right to self-defense. Buchanan would be better off not commenting on matters related to Israel. For whatever reason, he is not rational on the subject. . . . (watch video)
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Take it easy on Pat, he lost a relative at Auschwitz. He fell out of a Guard Tower.
Pat Butch is mentally stuck in the Third Reich.
I have never been overly impressed by the out-of-balance Mr. Buchanan.
I am wondering how long ole Pat would put up with folks lobbing “little missiles” into his back yard.
Patty’O Duke at it again? Jeeze. Someone lock this guy in an old folks home and never, ever let him or anyone proclaim he is anything near Conservative ever again.
Must be a talking point. A Cardinal said the exact same thing yesterday. “Concentration camp”.
Certain people are trying very hard to get the “Israel=Nazis” meme going.
As long as it takes him to polish his jackboots and Luger.
Pat is of the religious conviction that just cannot forgive the Jews for “killing Christ”- imho that is the “binders” he (and many other fundamentalist-sect-etc “Christians”) wear
same with Jimmy Carter
No rational sane person can look at what the Pals do and continue to do to themselves, or suffer having done to them by other “muslims”, versus what Israel has tried to do and is willing to do and is capable of doing to live in peace-
and come to the conclusions of a Buchanan or Carter
Much less use nazi era terminology to make a deluded comparison
Is this man insane? I mean truly, literally insane?
Is the writer just learning this about Buchanan?
Most of the Palestinians in Gaza aren’t even Israeli Muslims, over 1.5 million moved in after they where given Gaza from places like Egypt and Lebanon. They moved there for the sole purpose of jihad against Israel.
Israel actually has a Muslim population not part of the Palestinian territories. They have not pushed anyone into Gaza, those who are there either lived there before or came for the purpose of jihad.
... and pathetic, don't forget "pathetic". The once-admirable Mr. Buchannan obviously lost his mind several years ago.
Anyone who chooses to take the side of barbarians who still engage in the primitive practice of child sacrifice to placate their god(s), is beyond reasoning with.
Buchanan is a Catholic.
One thing I’ve always wondered. Is his sister Bay this whacked out about the Israeli conflict? She has always seemed very sensible to me and I would tend to think not, but I don’t know.
As for Pat, I think this and his hatred of free trade are the reasons he is persona non grata in the Republican party now.
“No rational sane person can look at what the Pals do and continue to do to themselves, or suffer having done to them by other “muslims”, versus what Israel has tried to do and is willing to do and is capable of doing to live in peace-
and come to the conclusions of a Buchanan or Carter.”
Exactly. bttt
“...it can surely be no coincidence that the most humane place in all of the Middle East is surrounded by barbarians who wish to extinguish it in the exact degree to which they systematically abuse their own children.
As a matter of fact, a couple of days ago a reader sent me this link to a piece in the Claremont Review on child sacrifice. In it, the author recalls Golda Meir’s famous remark about how “peace with the Palestinians will be possible when they love their own children more than they hate the Israelis. In saying so, she touched upon a fundamental difference between pagan and biblical religion: the presence or absence of child sacrifice.... Many ancient peoples believed in sacrificing a child to an angry god like Moloch or Baal in order to avert misfortune. Today, thousands of Muslims believe that sacrificing their children as ‘suicide’ bombers in a crowd of people pleases their God Allah. More, Islamic terrorists invite the death of children by placing their military and political headquarters in residential areas which they know their enemies will strike.”
Folks, is this not an obvious, if horrid and therefore denied truth about mankind in general and the Islamic world in particular? The author concludes his piece on a pessimistic note, speculating that “if the current intellectuals’ project of undermining the Biblical traditions of the Western world continues unabated..., rather than embracing some new, ‘enlightened’ philosophy which previous generations were supposedly too dull to conceive or practice, likely we will wind up with ancient paganism instead. ....” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2157592/posts?page=7#7
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So is Pelosi,Kennedy and Dodd - so what?
Wow, that is true.
Calling themselves Catholic, Jewish or Evangelical doesn't make them so by a stretch.
Mel Gibson is Catholic, too
My DD in Catholic school (5th grade) from the other kids has picked up some inaccurate, antisemitic comments and statements I've had to correct her on
McNamara tried to switch camps late in the game, too. He begged forgiveness and put his “apology” in a book and took it on tour.
Pat is doing the same thing. He long ago became a liability to the moderate/middle-of-the-road Republicans who valued office over principles and doing right by the American People and the Constitution. Being an all or nothing pouty guy, he feels betrayed by the party. He believes he is doing with his tongue on the talk shows what Martin Luther did with with his theses on the church door.
I attribute the root cause of Bob’s and Pat’s behavior to a bitterness born of regrets realized in later stages of the aging process.
If there is such a person, this one isn't it. Pat hasn't been "conservative" since, well, I'm not sure he was ever so much conservative as he was opportunistic, but certainly since the early 80s.
ROL!!!
Buchanan is an idiot.
Pat Buchanan is an idiot.
Yes, I have seen an irrational prejudice against the Jewish homeland by those traditional pre-Vatican II types as well. I wonder if they would see it differently if Israel was populated by Anglo Catholics? The image of brave people defending their homeland against the Muslim hordes?
What do you think the reaction of New Yorkers would be if
Connecticut started lobbing little rockets into Manhatten?
Actually anywhere, if they can get visas. You might recall Condi's outrage when Israel refused entry to students from Gaza bound for the US who had terror connections. The good news, Israel relented for those whose terror connections were minor, so they made it here.
LOL...
I think Jimmy Carter is (or was) a Southern Baptist. Now, are Southern Baptists a sect? no. Are Southern Baptists (or Catholics) Jew haters or otherwise antisemitic on some level?
No- not as a denomination. But “some” people are and it is their belief.
I've a former Baptist friend with a Jewish husband (Rick) who recently was invited for tea at the home of a friend of a friend- an older Baptist “church lady”- who pointedly addressed the unwillingness of Jews to accept Jesus as Their saviour blah blah blah. It was very uncomfortable for them but they laughed it off.
Unfortunately, Rick does not know the hearts and beliefs of enough gentiles to know whether this old woman was an anomaly, or a “threat” to him by rejecting him as a moral person.
I think that this moral rejection of Judaism lies at the heart of Carter and Buchanan's hostility toward Israel- but they would never admit that, focusing instead on acts and politics to justify their resentment and dislike.
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I’m reminded of the time Buchanan gave a speech, I think it was the Republican Convention, that was extremely inflammatory and bordered on anti-Semitic. 99-99/100ths of the assembled GOPers were utterly mortified. And while I’m not a real fan of Dick Cavette, his response when asked what he thought of the speech, was priceless:
“Actually, I preferred it in the original German.”
“But, Gibson et al turns this “mirror” around and uses it to blame the Jews. Here is the “fundamental” error.”
I agree and I am often confused by any Christian who places “blame” on the Jewish people for “killing” Jesus. Without Jesus’ selfless act of dying for our sins, the gift of salvation would not have been realized.
Your anecdotal reference about the older Baptist church lady is now second hand. Your take on their take. You seem to focus on the possible antisemitism of her remarks, and it is possible she meant it as such. But, if the lady was engaged in a discussion in the vein of Peter, she was absolutely correct. The Jews in general do reject Jesus as Messiah and pointing this out is not any more antisemitic than explaining the Gospel to an atheist is cruel to that unbeliever.
The distinction is important. If I hate a peoples, whether due to their color or their resistence to belief, I am displaying the very reason I need rescuing. But, to turn and attempt to persuade them to embrace that rescue is a commendable act.
Absolutely.
well, good luck on your future evangelism mission
I’m sure my friend’s husband is only Jewish because no one ever invited him to their house for a party - so they could tell him about about Jesus being his saviour and correct the errors of his faith
Why not pack your Bible and head to Israel - or maybe just to your local synagogue. So much soul savin’ needs to be done.
Just don’t “hate the sinner” so much you are willing to watch Gog and Magog stir up the hatred of the world against them, like Buchanan and Carter
Now we are getting somewhere. This is what I suspected was behind your comments.
Buchanan is a long-serving antisemite.
Hamas had every opportunity, and aid, with which to create whatever conditions it wanted to in Gaza after Israel pulled its troops out and removed its own settlements there.
The people living in Gaza can look to one primary source for their conditions in Gaza today - Hamas; because instead of honoring the concept of “land for peace” Hamas chose to turn Gaza into one contiguous rocket-launching pad.
Buchanan is NOT so ignorant as to NOT understand this. He’s just an antisemite.
Buchanan: “Hitler, now there was a painter. He could paint an entire apartment in one day. Two coats!”
I have never understood Buchanan’s visceral hatred for Israel.
Just when I think he can’t sink any lower, he does. What a putz!
The catch is that Palestinians are not welcome to emigrate to any Arab paradise. Not welcome at all. The Arabs want them confined to “refugee camps” so they can continue to use the Palestinians as a rallying cause. No one wants the Palestinians. Witness Egypt, enforcing the breaks in the border and shooting any Palestinians that tried to enter. Ditto for Jordan, Saudi, Lebanon etc. No one wants a happy Palestinian! They want bitter, suicidal Palestinians. They are the expendible pawns in the Islamic chess game.
Well said ... and very perceptive.
Pat would be cheering, although he might give pause columbia were hit.
Well, we took the long way home, but we finally got here.Buchanan decided to sell out our allies after the disillusion of the Soviet Empire. His hatred is reserved for those who would remine him of our shared histories and enemies. At the end of the day, the only thing he hates more than neoconservatives, is his own positions from before 1990,And I want to congratulate President Bush, and remove any doubt about where we stand: The primaries are over, the heart is strong again, and the Buchanan brigades are enlisted–all the way to a great comeback victory in November.
Like many of you last month, I watched that giant masquerade ball at Madison Square Garden–where 20,000 radicals and liberals came dressed up as moderates and centrists–in the greatest single exhibition of cross-dressing in American political history.
One by one, the prophets of doom appeared at the podium. The Reagan decade, they moaned, was a terrible time in America; and the only way to prevent even worse times, they said, is to entrust our nation’s fate and future to the party that gave us McGovern, Mondale, Carter and Michael Dukakis.
No way, my friends. The American people are not going to buy back into the failed liberalism of the 1960s and ’70s–no matter how slick the package in 1992.
The malcontents of Madison Square Garden notwithstanding, the 1980s were not terrible years. They were great years. You know it. I know it. And the only people who don’t know it are the carping critics who sat on the sidelines of history, jeering at ine of the great statesmen of modern time.
Out of Jimmy Carter’s days of malaise, Ronald Reagan crafted the longest peacetime recovery in US history–3 million new businesses created, and 20 million new jobs.
Under the Reagan Doctrine, one by one, the communist dominos began to fall. First, Grenada was liberated, by US troops. Then, the Red Army was run out of Afghanistan, by US weapons. In Nicaragua, the Marxist regime was forced to hold free elections–by Ronald Reagan’s contra army–and the communists were thrown out of power.
Have they forgotten? It was under our party that the Berlin Wall came down, and Europe was reunited. It was under our party that the Soviet Empire collapsed, and the captive nations broke free.
It is said that each president will be recalled by posterity–with but a single sentence. George Washington was the father of our country. Abraham Lincoln preserved the Union. And Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. And it is time my old colleagues, the columnists and commentators, looking down on us tonight from their anchor booths and sky boxes, gave Ronald Reagan the credit he deserves–for leading America to victory in the Cold War.
Most of all, Ronald Reagan made us proud to be Americans again. We never felt better about our country; and we never stood taller in the eyes of the world.
But we are here, not only to celebrate, but to nominate. And an American president has many, many roles.
He is our first diplomat, the architect of American foreign policy. And which of these two men is more qualified for that role? George Bush has been UN ambassador, CIA director, envoy to China. As vice president, he co-authored the policies that won the Cold War. As president, George Bush presided over the liberation of Eastern Europe and the termination of the Warsaw Pact. And Mr. Clinton? Well, Bill Clinton couldn’t find 150 words to discuss foreign policy in an acceptance speech that lasted an hour. As was said of an earlier Democratic candidate, Bill Clinton’s foreign policy experience is pretty much confined to having had breakfast once at the Intl. House of Pancakes.
The presidency is also America’s bully pulpit, what Mr Truman called, “preeminently a place of moral leadership.” George Bush is a defender of right-to-life, and lifelong champion of the Judeo-Christian values and beliefs upon which this nation was built.
Mr Clinton, however, has a different agenda.
At its top is unrestricted abortion on demand. When the Irish-Catholic governor of Pennsylvania, Robert Casey, asked to say a few words on behalf of the 25 million unborn children destroyed since Roe v Wade, he was told there was no place for him at the podium of Bill Clinton’s convention, no room at the inn.
Yet a militant leader of the homosexual rights movement could rise at that convention and exult: “Bill Clinton and Al Gore represent the most pro-lesbian and pro-gay ticket in history.” And so they do.
Bill Clinton supports school choice–but only for state-run schools. Parents who send their children to Christian schools, or Catholic schools, need not apply.
Elect me, and you get two for the price of one, Mr Clinton says of his lawyer-spouse. And what does Hillary believe? Well, Hillary believes that 12-year-olds should have a right to sue their parents, and she has compared marriage as an institution to slavery–and life on an Indian reservation.
Well, speak for yourself, Hillary.
Friends, this is radical feminism. The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America–abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat–that’s change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can tolerate in a nation that we still call God’s country.
A president is also commander in chief, the man we empower to send sons and brothers, fathers and friends, to war.
George Bush was 17 when they bombed Pearl Harbor. He left his high school class, walked down to the recruiting office, and signed up to become the youngest fighter pilot in the Pacific war. And Mr Clinton? When Bill Clinton’s turn came in Vietnam, he sat up in a dormitory in Oxford, England, and figured out how to dodge the draft.
Which of these two men has won the moral authority to call on Americans to put their lives at risk? I suggest, respectfully, it is the patriot and war hero, Navy Lieutenant J. G. George Herbert Walker Bush.
My friends, this campaign is about philosophy, and it is about character; and George Bush wins on both counts–going away; and it is time all of us came home and stood beside him.
As running mate, Mr Clinton chose Albert Gore. And just how moderate is Prince Albert? Well, according to the Taxpayers Union, Al Gore beat out Teddy Kennedy, two straight years, for the title of biggest spender in the Senate.
And Teddy Kennedy isn’t moderate about anything.
In New York, Mr Gore made a startling declaration. Henceforth, he said, the “central organizing principle” of all governments must be: the environment.
Wrong, Albert!
The central organizing principle of this republic is freedom. And from the ancient forests of Oregon, to the Inland Empire of California, America’s great middle class has got to start standing up to the environmental extremists who put insects, rats and birds ahead of families, workers and jobs.
One year ago, my friends, I could not have dreamt I would be here. I was then still just one of many panelists on what President Bush calls “those crazy Sunday talk shows.”
But I disagreed with the president; and so we challenged the president in the Republican primaries and fought as best we could. From February to June, he won 33 primaries. I can’t recall exactly how many we won.
But tonight I want to talk to the 3 million Americans who voted for me. I will never forget you, nor the great honor you have done me. But I do believe, deep in my heart, that the right place for us to be now–in this presidential campaign–is right beside George Bush. The party is our home; this party is where we belong. And don’t let anyone tell you any different.
Yes, we disagreed with President Bush, but we stand with him for freedom to choice religious schools, and we stand with him against the amoral idea that gay and lesbian couples should have the same standing in law as married men and women.
We stand with President Bush for right-to-life, and for voluntary prayer in the public schools, and against putting American women in combat. And we stand with President Bush in favor of the right of small towns and communities to control the raw sewage of pornography that pollutes our popular culture.
We stand with President Bush in favor of federal judges who interpret the law as written, and against Supreme Court justices who think they have a mandate to rewrite our Constitution.
My friends, this election is about much more than who gets what. It is about who we are. It is about what we believe. It is about what we stand for as Americans. There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we will one day be as was the Cold War itself. And in that struggle for the soul of America, Clinton & Clinton are on the other side, and George Bush is on our side. And so, we have to come home, and stand beside him.
My friends, in those 6 months, from Concord to California, I came to know our country better than ever before in my life, and I collected memories that will be with me always.
There was that day long ride through the great state of Georgia in a bus Vice President Bush himself had used in 1988–a bus they called Asphalt One. The ride ended with a 9:00 PM speech in front of a magnificent southern mansion, in a town called Fitzgerald.
There were the workers at the James River Paper Mill, in the frozen North Country of New Hampshire–hard, tough men, one of whom was silent, until I shook his hand. Then he looked up in my eyes and said, “Save our jobs!” There was the legal secretary at the Manchester airport on Christmas Day who told me she was going to vote for me, then broke down crying, saying, “I’ve lost my job, I don’t have any money; they’ve going to take away my daughter. What am I going to do?”
My friends, even in tough times, these people are with us. They don’t read Adam Smith or Edmund Burke, but they came from the same schoolyards and playgrounds and towns as we did. They share our beliefs and convictions, our hopes and our dreams. They are the conservatives of the heart.
They are our people. And we need to reconnect with them. We need to let them know we know they’re hurting. They don’t expect miracles, but they need to know we care.
There were the people of Hayfork, the tiny town high up in California’s Trinity Alps, a town that is now under a sentence of death because a federal judge has set aside 9 million acres for the habitat of the spotted owl–forgetting about the habitat of the men and women who live and work in Hay fork. And there were the brave people of Koreatown who took the worst of the LA riots, but still live the family values we treasure, and who still believe deeply in the American dream.
Friends, in those wonderful 25 weeks, the saddest days were the days of the bloody riot in LA, the worst in our history. But even out of that awful tragedy can come a message of hope.
Hours after the violence ended I visited the Army compound in south LA, where an officer of the 18th Cavalry, that had come to rescue the city, introduced me to two of his troopers. They could not have been 20 years old. He told them to recount their story.
They had come into LA late on the 2nd day, and they walked up a dark street, where the mob had looted and burned every building but one, a convalescent home for the aged. The mob was heading in, to ransack and loot the apartments of the terrified old men and women. When the troopers arrived, M-16s at the ready, the mob threatened and cursed, but the mob retreated. It had met the one thing that could stop it: force, rooted in justice, backed by courage.
Greater love than this hath no man than that he lay down his life for his friend. Here were 19-year-old boys ready to lay down their lives to stop a mob from molesting old people they did not even know. And as they took back the streets of LA, block by block, so we must take back our cities, and take back our culture, and take back our country.
God bless you, and God bless America.
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