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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AK'S/AR'S/ AND NAGANTS
Transsylvania Phoenix ^

Posted on 12/05/2008 9:51:15 AM PST by ElKafir

Three Rifles That Made History Compared Side By Side

(you won't see this on History Channel's special History Of The Gun)

(Excerpt) Read more at transsylvaniaphoenix.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Humor; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: ak47; ar15; banglist; buyammonow; buygunsnow; funny; mosin; mosinnagant; rifle
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1 posted on 12/05/2008 9:51:15 AM PST by ElKafir
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To: ElKafir

Good.


2 posted on 12/05/2008 9:58:33 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: ElKafir

Pretty funny stuff!


3 posted on 12/05/2008 9:59:27 AM PST by JamesP81 (I shall give their President the same respect they gave mine.)
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To: Vor Lady; ZEROKILL

Educational ping.


4 posted on 12/05/2008 10:00:55 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Deplore the profligate scattering of corpses!)
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To: ElKafir
(AK)Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.

(AR)Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.

(Mosin Nagant)Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.

ROFL!

5 posted on 12/05/2008 10:16:32 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: ElKafir

Holy Sh*t that was funny! Thanks for the laugh just before ending another wonderful day in Iraq.


6 posted on 12/05/2008 10:42:27 AM PST by Muddy168 (Navy beats Army this weekend...or I'm in trouble.)
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To: ElKafir

“(Mosin Nagant)What’s a safety?”

#9 on the top ten list of the manliest guns!

http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2007_manly_firearms.shtml


7 posted on 12/05/2008 10:45:44 AM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: All

#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.

And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting “WHAT?” to communicate. You’ll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket. Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to fire a Mosin.

Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy stick—a Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So, coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all the time, doesn’t it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man the Finns describe as “modest” and “self-effacing.” It’s a good thing the Russians didn’t run into a Finn who was proud and arrogant. They’d have been wiped out.

It fires a 7.62X54R (for “Rimmed”) cartridge, about as powerful as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from 1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge. It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons. It’s cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland, Poland, Romania, even the US. As I write this, arsenal-new M44s are $55 to $200. At that price, you should have several, so any guests you have during the Collapse can be outfitted as they receive Enlightenment. Then they can rape, kill, sack and loot with the rest of the men who secure a new Dark Ages to hasten the new renaissance. It will be a manly duty.


8 posted on 12/05/2008 10:50:27 AM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir)
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To: ElKafir

Very funny, but watch the movie “Enemy at the Gates” and see how effective my Mosin Nagant is.


9 posted on 12/05/2008 10:52:37 AM PST by vanilla swirl
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To: ElKafir

Old...
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm


10 posted on 12/05/2008 10:53:42 AM PST by BorisTheBulletDodger (Bang!)
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To: ElKafir

“(Mosin Nagant)You dig your ammo out of a farmer’s field in Ukraine and it works just fine.”

I’ve got some that goes off half a second after the trigger is pulled. It’s great for learning not to flinch.

Good stuff!


11 posted on 12/05/2008 11:07:39 AM PST by pallis
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To: ElKafir
(Mosin Nagant)Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.

Actually the sight adjustment only goes out to 1.24 miles (2000 meters). But I have trouble shooting a consistent 6" group at that range.

12 posted on 12/05/2008 11:11:56 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: vanilla swirl

Is the recoil really as bad as they say? I bought two earlier this year, but I haven’t even had time to clean them yet. They were such cool pieces of history I just had to have them, and the fact that you can still shoot them is just a bonus.


13 posted on 12/05/2008 11:19:26 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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Recoil with the M44 (carbine) is somewhat more noticeable than with the M98/31 (long rifle), but in neither case is it outrageous or extreme. It’s comparable to any other .30 caliber rifle ... no big surprise. Ballistics are comparable to .303Brit, .308, .30 ‘06. Get yourself some nice, steel cased, commie ammo, and have fun. The stuff from Wolf (newly manufactured in Russia) is good.


14 posted on 12/05/2008 11:26:58 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: SLB; Squantos; Travis McGee; Joe Brower

Good stuff here!


15 posted on 12/05/2008 11:28:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Check out the link for the article. Funny, and mostly true!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

16 posted on 12/05/2008 11:36:36 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: nina0113

Recoil on a Ventavka Mosina is perhaps best described as... variable but it’s definitely a man rifle.

I have a friend with an M44 that doesn’t hardly kick at all but the muzzle flash is enough to blind you - be prepared to be engulfed in flames.

My 91/30 kicked so bad the first time I took it to the range I thought I had a bruised cheek. I disassembled and reassembled it when I cleaned (finding still more cosmoline.) I took it out last Friday and the recoil had been reduced substantially, more of a push than a kick. I think I must have left something loose the first time I put it back together.

I know it takes a lot of work to get all the cosmo our of them but DO take them out and shoot them! The ammo is cheap and I think they are just a lot of fun to shoot. And after you touch off your first round be sure to look over and give a loud grunt at the amazed AK and AR shooters on the line. :-)


17 posted on 12/05/2008 11:38:16 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: Joe Brower
Great way to end a tense work week! Thanks.
18 posted on 12/05/2008 11:50:08 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: pallis

I’ve got some that goes off half a second after the trigger is pulled. It’s great for learning not to flinch.


That’s a fantastic training tool.


19 posted on 12/05/2008 11:56:02 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Politicians, like diapers, should be changed often. And for the same reason.)
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To: ElKafir

funny as hell. great post thanks.


20 posted on 12/05/2008 12:15:26 PM PST by beebuster2000
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