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VANITY: What an OPM investigator just asked me....
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Posted on 09/15/2008 12:39:26 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

An Office of Personnel Management investigator was snooping around my neighborhood today asking questions about one of our neighbors, who apparently is seeking a high-level position with the U.S. Government.

She came to my door, showed her badge and paper work, and I invited her in. After a flurry of questions about my neighbor's personality, jobs, family life, etc., she asked me the following question:

"Is there any reason that you would think or make you believe that this person would not be loyal to the Government of the United States of America?"

And then it dawned on me.... I asked myself the following:

Has Barack Obama been vetted or investigated yet by the OPM, FBI, etc.? Because, when speaking of 'loyalty to the government', I would think that his past associations with Ayers, Klonsky, Wright, et. al. would raise a HUGE RED FLAG in his file. Aren't presidential and V.P. noms supposed to be rigorously investigated?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: barackobama; election; electionpresident; elections; fbi; fbifiles; nobama; obama; obamabiden; opm
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1 posted on 09/15/2008 12:39:26 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Only if they’re Republicans.


2 posted on 09/15/2008 12:41:24 PM PDT by caper gal 1
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Bankon it... nothing even one-tenth as rigorous was done to vet Obama.


3 posted on 09/15/2008 12:42:45 PM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Good point!

Someone (Obama) is running for President, who would not be able to get a job as an entry-level computer technician at my company — because he would not pass the background check!


4 posted on 09/15/2008 12:44:57 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Elected positions are not subject to approval by the FBI. Think about how scary a world that would be.


5 posted on 09/15/2008 12:45:27 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Elected positions are not subject to approval by the FBI. Think about how scary a world that would be.

Nobody said he couldn't get elected. Let him get elected (to congress) but keep his ass away from classified material.

6 posted on 09/15/2008 12:49:57 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

As Savage noted last week, based on Obama’s long-term association with known domestic terrorists he would be unlikely to pass the background check to work for the FBI.


7 posted on 09/15/2008 12:50:44 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Aren't presidential and V.P. noms supposed to be rigorously investigated?

Under what controlliong legal authority?

8 posted on 09/15/2008 12:50:47 PM PDT by Roccus (Some day it'll all make sense.......................maybe.)
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To: kburi; sofaman; BufordP; SE Mom; armymarinemom; HokieMom; MarineMom613; Tennessee Nana; ...

Thread started by me.

Thought I’d pass it along to see what your thoughts are on this matter, if any.


9 posted on 09/15/2008 12:51:39 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: Roccus

Don’t know.... I’m just posing the question.


10 posted on 09/15/2008 12:52:57 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Office of Personnel Management. They do background checks for clearances.
11 posted on 09/15/2008 12:54:41 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Robert Byrd - Ex community organizer)
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To: VeniVidiVici

By law, the president has a security clearance by virtue of election.

There is no backgrtound check.


12 posted on 09/15/2008 12:55:07 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
A person accepting a government job is sworn in and part of this swearing in went I swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America so help me God. I guess if you do not believe in God you are not bound.
13 posted on 09/15/2008 12:56:59 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

To answer your question, no, they are not. They are also given NIE briefings once they are nominated.


14 posted on 09/15/2008 12:57:35 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Robert Byrd - Ex community organizer)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Aren't presidential and V.P. noms supposed to be rigorously investigated?

It is possible to do that on age, natural-born citizenship and residency only. Any other restrictions would require a constitutional amendment.

15 posted on 09/15/2008 12:58:43 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Read “Unlimited Access” by former FBI Agent Gary Aldrich.

It details in depth, his experiences in attempting to get the Clinton White House staff to comply with the law and undergo the required scrutiny for security clearance processing and approval/denial.

Most of them either completely blew him off, or flatly refused.

Neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton ever complied while he was there (they did eventually run him off), and he goes into great detail how, knowing what had at that time become public knowledge about them (Bill's unexplained foreign travel [6 months in Moscow], his flat refusal to release his medical records, persistent reports of heavy drug use while in office in Ark., Whitewater, philandering, her allegded complicity in several S&L failures, etc.), if he had been able to apply the normal standards for processing a clearance request, neither would have qualified for even a Confidential level security clearance.

However, officials elected to the Senate and Executive Office are granted clearance by virtue of their positions, as well as selected members of their staffs.

Sad, but true.

16 posted on 09/15/2008 12:59:16 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Technically, we are all Republicans!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Hi Silvie! Caught you on Chris' show this morning...

It's scandalous that our elected officials are allowed to bypass the kinds of security checks that we common folk must be subject to. Remember Senator Leahy (aka Senator Depends)? Leahy acknowledged inadvertently leaking a confidential Senate Intelligence Committee report, apologized and resigned from the committee. There are two other reports from the 1980s, which allege that he inadvertently disclosed classified intelligence information in one case and threatened to do so in another.

17 posted on 09/15/2008 1:01:32 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies; Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

No, there is no requirements for a security check for being a VP.

However, in the larger realm of discussion is the topic of loyalty.

To be honest, the Oath taken taken by the President is to the Constitution, not the United States of America.

I wouldn’t have it any other way.

The Constitution. is the bible, America could go down the wrong path and I wouldn’t be loyal to it, just the Constitution.


18 posted on 09/15/2008 1:02:39 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
"Is there any reason that you would think or make you believe that this person would not be loyal to the Government of the United States of America?"

I thought you were going to say, "Well, he does have Obama signs in his front yard."

19 posted on 09/15/2008 1:08:28 PM PDT by AZLiberty (You can't power the U.S. economy on Democrat snake oil.)
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To: AZLiberty
I thought you were going to say, "Well, he does have Obama signs in his front yard."

Hahaha! I'll remember that line for next time!

20 posted on 09/15/2008 1:16:00 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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