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defense is criminal and racist say liberal democrats
mainestategop blog ^ | 8/12/08 | mainestategop

Posted on 08/12/2008 1:26:07 PM PDT by mainestategop

The democratic left is against the right of individuals to defend their lives and property. They oppose Americans being armed to defend themselves in their communities, they don't like people fighting especially if the victim stands up for himself, they don't even want Americans to have a military. This is mainly because the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is in opposition to the leftist ideals of collectivism and group think. Property and life are especially immoral to the left.

Growing up in school I was told that I had to get a teacher if I was being assaulted by another student. If I fought back, I would get punished as well. A friend of mine who went to a rough school in the south had it worse. If he fought back, he got punished and the assailant either got away or got a slap on the wrist. The teachers will usually ignore it. This tells our children that they have no rights and that they must be weak and defenseless and that criminals have more rights than they do. It is a perfect breeding ground for socialists, especially the racist kind (Nazis, black panthers, Nation of Islam ETC) if it involves bullies of another race. It gives bullies and future criminals the message that it may seem that it is not alright to commit crime but if you do you're probably going to get away with it easily, even if it is murder.

Americans are being told by liberals in the state level that they have no right to protect themselves and to depend on government. Thankfully most Americans are not willing to stoop to that level and have chosen to fight back regardless what the left says.

While many have dared to fight back, in places under Democrat control, there is a cost. A woman in North Carolina was sued by a burglar who was injured and won, a man in California whose house was broken into and his son assaulted and given brain damage fought back and killed the attackers. The head of the NAACP of San Francisco a racist black preacher called the victim a racist and called for murder charges to be filed against him. In Howard Beach New York, a white man is sent to prison for fighting of a black mugger who admitted that he was in the neighborhood to steal cars. Our civil liberties are under assault by liberals more interested in protecting the rights of criminals than their victims.

Joe horn, a native of Pasadena Texas outside of Houston shot two men caught breaking into his neighbor's house killing both men. Texas has the castle doctrine, a law which protects crime victims from liability for killing or injuring burglars, rapists and other people on their property. A grand jury decided not to file charges against Horn and he was commended by his community. However not everyone was happy about it.

Quanell X is the leader of the new Black Panther party of Houston. He has been a staunch opponent against the castle doctrine calling it racist. He and several Black liberal racist Democrats held a march in his neighborhood calling for Horn to be prosecuted since the attackers turned out to be Afro-Latino. However the march was met by counter demonstrators who shouted down the protest and they left. Still several left wing and black racist groups on blogs and leftist newsgroups condemned and attacked horn. Here are some quotes:

As we saw with the grand jury yesterday, and as we see in the crime news that bombards us each day in Houston and in this entire metro region, tolerance for cold blooded killing is widespread and fits no profile of appearance, gender or skin color. Mr. Horn had the option to stay in his home, as he was advised to do by the 911 operator, and not kill anybody. He took another course and killed two fellow human beings.

There is not a snowflake’s chance in hell that an African-American man could do what Joe Horn did and get away with it The message that Harris County sent to the entire world is that Houston, Texas is God’s city. There is no longer a need for the criminal justice system, police, judge or jury. You can be all of that on your own. I wonder if Joe Horn were black if he would be free tonight or in the Harris County Jail

Anybody who commits an act of theft of any kind belongs in jail. Similarly, anyone who takes the law into his own hands even after being cautioned by law enforcement not to — and then shoots anyone, including burglars, in the back, “for sport,” unprovoked or just because he thinks he can get away with it (with the aid of public sentiment) is a cold-blooded murderer.

Gee... I wonder why we don't hear this about people who really are murderers for sport?

Texas thankfully is a moral God fearing states that is still American. They had no interest in what the rest of the world thought. Unfortunately not every victim of crime is fortunate to live in such a state. Most states do not have Castle doctrine instead they have something called the kick me doctrine leaving victims defenseless. This regardless of race.

John White is an African American resident of Long Island New York. Despite being a fief under Democrat control, white did carry a hand gun. One day five white teenagers believing that his son Aaron White had made threats against one of their girlfriends on the Internet to rape her marched into White's front yard shouting racial epitaphs and making threats. When one of them attempted to attack White, he took his gun and shot him dead. The rest of them fled the scene. White claimed self defense. The men had trespassed, made threats, and when one of them tried to attack him he shot back in self defense. Long Island law enforcement didn't buy it.

White was charged with first degree murder then it was reduced to manslaughter charges. White had the support of civil rights advocates who called it a legal lynching. The jury was deadlocked in the case but came back with a guilty verdict. White was sentenced to 4 years in prison for manslaughter but due to pressure a city judge threw out the verdict and had him released. Jurors claimed that they were under pressure by fellow jurors to find White guilty even though they knew he acted in defense. The father of the boy who was shot expressed outrage during a press conference claiming they pardoned him because of race and that he had no right to own a gun and defend himself. Excuse me loser but maybe you shouldn't have let your son cruise storm front.org and walk on people's yards to intimidate them. We have the second amendment. If you can't accept it go live in Europe then when some men named Mohamed come to your doorstep to threaten you then you'll know what it's like.

Despite his race however several leftists condemned White. I read a few blogs by some liberals that I came across and lo and behold they were just as upset that he was allowed to have a gun and use it. There were some other nice postings from storm front and a few other places. The socialist racists claim to be for defense but only for whites:

The slimy little prima donna didn't get his way, boo hoo. God bless the other jurors

I believe that Mr. White took this teens life simply because of his ego/pride, and that the confrontation on his property and the use of a derogatory racial term were his justification for doing so.

As a black man I believe Mr. White was wrong to fight back. He should have gone back inside and waited on the police to help him out. He had no business owning a hand gun and should have found some more peaceful way out of his predicament.

That n***er had no business trying to protect his property!

He murdered an unarmed White teenager in cold-blood. It wasn't in his house, it was in the street in front of his house. Send the Negroes back to their African homeland, and we wouldn't be reading a story like this.

Isn't socialism wonderful?

FINAL NOTE: Democratic Hopeful Barack Hussein Obama is also an opponent of Castle doctrine as well as an opponent of the 2nd amendment. Think about that for a minute. For those of you in a blue state, think also about how you and your family will get by if Obama and his supporters get there way.


TOPICS: Government; Reference
KEYWORDS: castledoctrine; crime; defense; democrats; joehorn; johnwhite; leftists; quanellx; racism
A little somthing I whipped up this afternoon. After reading about another beating in NY by white supremecists and the black victim charged I had to write it out to let out my anger.
1 posted on 08/12/2008 1:28:00 PM PDT by mainestategop
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To: mainestategop
Quanell X...has been a staunch opponent against the castle doctrine calling it racist

The Castle Doctrine interferes with Q's livelihood and that of his constituents and is therefore Unconstitutional or unfair or discriminatory or something.

2 posted on 08/12/2008 1:53:11 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: mainestategop

You need to work on your use of quotation marks: as it stands, you’re the one making racist comments about White... which I assume wasn’t your intention.


3 posted on 08/12/2008 2:21:43 PM PDT by Grut
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To: mainestategop
Everyone over the age of 18, with the exception of convicted felons, should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon.

The TeenyBoppers would have had knowledge that Mr White "could" have had a gun and would have had the RIGHT to use it to defend himself and his property. And so they would have either had no excuse OR they would have thought it over and decided threats were not in order without solid facts.

I'm an unusual woman in that I believe in concealed carry for everyone. In fact, I think we should be able to wear our guns "where all the world can see" instead of having to conceal them.

Back in the day, that's what 'we' did. And those not allowed to carry a gun . . . if caught committing a crime with a gun and convicted on DNA or absolute evidence . . . could lose their trigger finger. Kind of like the days of yore when archers lost their middle finger.

The sign of "victory" would not be the protruding middle finger, it would be the pointer-trigger finger.

What say you?

4 posted on 08/12/2008 2:22:46 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The World is a Tragedy for Those Who Feel (Democrats) but a Comedy to Those Who Think (Republicans).)
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To: mainestategop

The right to self-defense comes from within our nature. No government, even the most fascist, can take it away from us. Even if they make laws forbidding it, the laws are invalid and not binding on one’s conscience.

If a scum breaks into your house at night and threatens your spouse and family, they want us to say to the scum “welcome to my house. rape the women, kill the men, shoot the children. I’m a good liberal”.

What I have to say to liberal lawgivers can’t be written here in any form at all.


5 posted on 08/12/2008 2:50:34 PM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com

As they say I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.


6 posted on 08/12/2008 2:56:02 PM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: mainestategop
"...the attackers turned out to be Afro-Latino."

Just a footnote on this one. Both of these miscreants were career criminals in this country illegally. Mr. Horn gave the perps one opportunity "FREEZE" before opening fire which both men chose to ignore.

7 posted on 08/12/2008 3:20:07 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Grut
Those were quotes from several websites such as stormfront. I meant to use italic or bold but I forgot.
8 posted on 08/12/2008 3:46:05 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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To: Desron13
Just a footnote on this one. Both of these miscreants were career criminals in this country illegally

Yeah that's right I forgot about that. Thanks for bringing that up.

9 posted on 08/12/2008 3:47:43 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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To: mainestategop
Those were quotes from several websites such as stormfront. I meant to use italic or bold but I forgot.

I figured. But I hope you've fixed 'em by now.

10 posted on 08/12/2008 7:34:26 PM PDT by Grut
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To: mainestategop

It’s not “epitaph” it’s “epithet.” An “epitaph” is what you have carved on your tombstone. Common mistake.


11 posted on 08/13/2008 7:41:45 AM PDT by ichabod1 (If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
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To: mainestategop
Growing up in school I was told that I had to get a teacher if I was being assaulted by another student. If I fought back, I would get punished as well. A friend of mine who went to a rough school in the south had it worse. If he fought back, he got punished and the assailant either got away or got a slap on the wrist. The teachers will usually ignore it.

Also, the teachers would tell you that nobody liked a "tattle-tale". So you couldn't defend yourself, and you couldn't go to the teacher.

12 posted on 08/13/2008 9:37:43 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: chesley
Also, the teachers would tell you that nobody liked a "tattle-tale". So you couldn't defend yourself, and you couldn't go to the teacher.

I wouldn't be surprised if a cop used that argument against someone reporting a crime. One of these days it's likely to happen.

13 posted on 08/13/2008 12:21:03 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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To: mainestategop
Bite your tongue!!!

Although, you are probably right. Did you ever read science fiction? Christopher Anvil wrote a story, “Pandora's Planet” that looked at this kind of society back in the 60s. Who knew?

14 posted on 08/13/2008 12:55:49 PM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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To: chesley
Science fiction can be very prophetic. Only most of the novels said that the fascists were religious Conservative Christians. In the real world it's the opposite.
15 posted on 08/13/2008 1:02:39 PM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: Come in and get taxed)
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To: mainestategop
All too true.
16 posted on 08/13/2008 1:22:45 PM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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