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Anthrax case : Ivins is innocent, suspected for political reasons - VANITY
French for Freedom ^ | 08 08 2008 | drzz

Posted on 08/08/2008 3:30:58 AM PDT by drzz

1. FBI says they connected the anthrax mailings with Fort Detrick. But it didn't say such things earlier :

“The Federal Bureau of Investigation, suspecting that components from the Delta trainer might have been used to make the anthrax mailed in late 2001, examined the unit, officials and experts said. But investigators found no spores or other evidence linking it to the crime, they said.”

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE6DB133AF931A35754C0A9659C8B63

2. Dr Stephen Hatfill, wrongly suspected for years by FBI, met an ABC News reporter on October 2001 and told him that FBI was losing its time to suspect American scientists. Iraq was behind the anthrax mailings he said, and added he could prove it.

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/Hatfill116-2.pdf

3. Former UNSCOM expert and ISG analyst Dr Richard Spertzel wrote to Laurie Mylroie that he too suspects Iraq to be behind the anthrax mailins : "To start, I have believed all along that Iraqi intelligence had their dirty hands on this event. Based on ISG findings that Iraq had apparently decided in 1994 to not attempt production, but rather only research to enhance "break-out" capability and that the Iraqi and Syrian intelligence services had formed an alliance to develop the field "in chemical and biological of mutual interest," I now suspect that Syria made the anthrax product with Iraqi Intelligence assistance."

http://www.lauriemylroie.com/files/Spertzel_on_Shoham_Jacobsen2.htm

4. 3. The people behind the anthrax mailings may be connected to Iraq or former Soviet Union, according to the International Journal of Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence, March 2007 issue. Experts reviewing the case wrote that the Fort Detrick's lead was "futile" :

"Relying, apparently, on concrete findings, former top U.S. weapons inspector Dr. David Kay said that "the Iraqis had developed new techniques for drying anthrax - techniques that were superior to anything the United States or the old Soviet Union had. That would make the former regime of Saddam Hussein the most sophisticated manufacturer of anthrax in the world." 58 Somewhat disturbingly, Dr. Kay did not - probably intentionally - give more details about his statement, not mentioning any additive applied for the Iraqi techniques, such as silica or, possibly, siloxane binder, or any foreign contributors - Russian, Danish, or another. Yet, even independently of Kay's remarkable statement, the vitality of such an exceptional Iraqi capability may presumably lie within an effective Iraqi-made integration of the various predominant essentials presented and discussed. And beyond anthrax, a notable collateral outcome of that integration was that silica gel was indeed being used by Iraq to aid in the dispersability of wheat smut spores, an anti-cultivar fungal biological warfare agent then held by Iraq.

Comparatively, the FBI's domestically originated-SSP hypothesis turned out to be futile. Slowly and steadily, it is perishing.59 Particularly, that the view that the old U.S. Army anthrax stockpile was not silica-based, while the fineness of various aerosols of anthrax spores - including Ames - applied by the U.S. Army for experimental infection studies after the U.S. biological weapons arsenal had been eliminated - even if including spray-dried spore powders containing silica - did not at all equal the quality of the SSP."

http://newsdetails.blogspot.com/2007/05/technical-intelligence-in-retrospect.html


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; bushfbi; congress; coverup; geopolitics; govwatch; iraq; islam; ivins; mohammedanism; scapegoat; wot
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1 posted on 08/08/2008 3:30:59 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

1. FBI futile search at Fort Detrick http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE6DB133AF931A35754C0A9659C8B63

2. ABC reporter, Hatfill claiming he could prove Iraqi involvement in anthrax mailings http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/Hatfill116-2.pdf

3. UNSCOM Richard Spertzel to Laurie Mylroie : “Iraq has its dirty hands in this event” http://www.lauriemylroie.com/files/Spertzel_on_Shoham_Jacobsen2.htm

4. “Anthrax mailings in retrospect”, Journal of Intelligence and Counter-Intelligence, March 2007 issue
http://newsdetails.blogspot.com/2007/05/technical-intelligence-in-retrospect.html


2 posted on 08/08/2008 3:33:42 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz
So what does Hatfill have to say now..and all of the others...do they still stand by what they said previously?
Why did Ivins commit suicide?
3 posted on 08/08/2008 3:45:16 AM PDT by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: drzz; backhoe
Hannity once mentioned that the handwriting on the anthrax letters was blocky and childlike. I hadn't heard anything lately about letter analysis. If he acted ‘alone’, then it had to be his handwriting, right?
4 posted on 08/08/2008 3:48:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hang in there, Obama! We don't want you to lose until after the convention.)
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To: johnandrhonda

“Why did Ivins commit suicide?”

Perhaps you should remove the ‘why’ to your question:

Did Ivins commit suicide?

One politician to another: “Why did you beat your wife?”
The other politician: “I’m not even married.”


5 posted on 08/08/2008 3:50:35 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Hang in there, Obama! We don't want you to lose until after the convention.)
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To: johnandrhonda

A lot of people under stress commit suicide, guilty or not.


6 posted on 08/08/2008 3:54:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting Conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

FBI early analysis proved the writer of the mailings was NOT an English native speaker.

That could NOT be Ivins.

FBI tells us Ivins drove 6 hours to Trenton, NJ, to send the mails because he owas obsessed by Pinceton’s soririty and because he knew NJ was a homtown of many jihadists groups. This a RIDICULOUS story.


7 posted on 08/08/2008 3:59:36 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

One thing for sure : because of Ivins’s death, FBI has no need to go to court and actually defend its case.

What is interesting is that FBI has NO case to defend and is then really happy not to go on trial.

C-O-V-E-R U-P


8 posted on 08/08/2008 4:04:40 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

According to a report I read, the handwriting wasn’t his. I believe the term was “inconclusive” which I took to mean they didn’t have a clue.


9 posted on 08/08/2008 4:26:10 AM PDT by Adder (typical bitter white person)
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To: Adder

Yes, “unconclusive” is another way for FBI to say “we have no case but please, American taxpayers, don’t ask us why”.

This “Amerithrax” investigation is an insult to taxpayers and relatives of the victims.

US investigation services are SO corrupted... it’s really scary.


10 posted on 08/08/2008 4:37:47 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

If former weapons inspector says that Ivins could not have made the weaponized anthrax by himself, or at the very least without someone else in on it, then I take him at his word.

He would be the one to know..


11 posted on 08/08/2008 4:43:08 AM PDT by PaRepub07
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To: PaRepub07

And we know Ivins’s writings don’t link him to letters.

It means at least 2 other people are involved in the anthrax mailings. And Ivins is not the mastermind at all.


12 posted on 08/08/2008 5:02:52 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz
IIRC, Penicillan was spelled wrong in the one letter. Of course the FBI would say "that was part of Ivens being clever".

Why would IVENS write letters at all? Why not just write one word? "Anthrax". Why date the letters?

It just doesn't make sense.

13 posted on 08/08/2008 5:03:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: drzz

The story we’ve been reading is flagrant BS.


14 posted on 08/08/2008 5:09:27 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree.

According to the ISG (source in the original thread above) Iraq was the only State capable to produce such pure anthrax.

The guy who sent the anthrax mailings was linked with the numerous islamic groups living in NJ who were already involved in the 1993 WTC attacks. Where did the WTC bombmaker Abdul Rasin flee after the 1993 attack ? Iraq.

My guess : the guy who sent the letters was ABDERRAOUF JDEY, a 36-year old Montreal-based Canadian of Tunisian origin who studied biology (anthrax is a biological weapon).

Jdey is one of the seven al Qaeda terrorists listed in the FBI’s plea for information from the public in May, 2004. He had emigrated to Canada in 1991, gained citizenship in 1995, and then travelled to Afghanistan where he trained as one of the ten substitutes for the 9/11 attackers. According to KSM, Jdey was slated for pilot training and was to be in the second wave of attacks.

This guy has the profile. Studied Biology - islamist - linked to Jersey radicals - linked to 9-11 hijackers

Certainly not a microbiologist working at Fort Detrick and sending letters in NJ because he was obsessed by Princeton’s sorority !!!

I cannot believe people are buying this. We are living in a strange world.


15 posted on 08/08/2008 5:15:24 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: wendy1946

What do you mean ? FBI story ? If so, I totally agree.


16 posted on 08/08/2008 5:16:23 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderraouf_Jdey
17 posted on 08/08/2008 5:18:44 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abderraouf_Jdey


18 posted on 08/08/2008 5:18:59 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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The first cases of anthrax turned up ten miles from where the 9-11 jackers were living. What would it take for somebody in the US govt. to arrange that?? I mean, that would almost require that God or St. Michael be in on some sort of a conspiracy...


19 posted on 08/08/2008 5:30:37 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Oh, really ? And is this the result of St. Michael :

On June 25, 911 Flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah took his counterpart Ahmed al-Haznawi to Holy Cross Hospital in Fort Lauderdale on advice of his landlord Charles Lisa. Al-Haznawi was treated by Dr. Christos Tsonas, who gave him antibiotics for a small gash on his left calf. While he told staff that he had bumped into a suitcase [3], the media briefly reported it as a sign of cutaneous anthrax and a possible link to the 2001 anthrax attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Haznawi


20 posted on 08/08/2008 6:08:56 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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