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FORENSIC EXPERT: "the [birth] certificate is still a horrible forgery"
Atlas Shrugs Blog ^ | 7/11/08 | Techdude

Posted on 07/11/2008 8:39:42 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: devolve
You did a fantastic job with Chelsea and the angel, lol.

Another thread says Google buried Obama’s Birth Certificate. Also shows Google attributing a false post to Free Republic!

61 posted on 07/12/2008 2:04:51 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: MindBender26

That may be true, no one is arguing about the way it ‘looks’. Multiple Hawaiin legit ‘certificate of Live Birth’s have been posted. Obama’s “looks” just fine. But it has been proved a forgery, many times over. By me, and more importantly, by true experts. It is a fraudulent document, simple as that.


62 posted on 07/12/2008 3:56:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: freespirited

I for one, believe that we need Obama. Not as a president of the United States...at least certainly NOT NOW. We do need his presence in the Senate, and for him to grow...and be mentored by others, and he inturn to mentor others.

He is simply not ready to lead this country. He is not ready to lead ME. I will not follow him.

If it takes the issue of his birth to derail thie presidential bid, then so be it....Let’s do it. Let’s demand that he come forth. And that eye witnesses come forth.

If there is a friend of his mother’s living in Vancouver who says Obama was born there, then let’s have her come on u-tube and spill her story to us...

I’m for full disclosure..

Mr Obama, the wagons are circling your camp. Either you come forth now and tell us what is fact an what is fiction, or we will demand it through the courts...


63 posted on 07/12/2008 4:36:31 PM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: pissant

What experienced forensic document examiner has looked at the ORIGINAL document and pronounced a forgery?

Not a copy posted on the web, but the original.

Has even one?


64 posted on 07/12/2008 5:05:00 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: potlatch
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GOOGLE will get it's come up-pence

Just as the CBS-NBC-ABC TV networks have in lost viewers and ad dollars and credibility and influence - same as the fast dying print newspapers

Start exposing algore through photos and his financial ties to GOOGLE and to his Occidental Oil stock and to Hugo Chavez in Venezuela

Same with the Kennedy's and their now renamed KENNOIL which is now incorporated in the western islands

And Jay Rockefeller - Mr. Standard Oil himself - pushing oil prices to the skies

65 posted on 07/12/2008 9:24:17 PM PDT by devolve (- Education: - Harvard Law School Affirmative Action -)
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To: MindBender26

That pre-supposes that an original actually exists! We have yet to see any such thing from the Obama camp. Many people are saying that the posted Birth Certificate is a forgery, and if this is true there WILL BE NO ORIGINAL.


66 posted on 07/12/2008 9:36:21 PM PDT by Sharrukin
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To: devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; gonzo; LucyT; pissant; null and void; ...
Now you're talkin'--all we've seen to date is manipulated pixels, not proof.

I don't think Barack Hussein Dunham Obama Soetoro aka Barry aka El Gran Fako is a natural born citizen of the United States of America and is therefore NOT eligible to be president under Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 of the Constitution.

The Constitution is the controlling legal authority, not this lightweight sock puppet of George Soros, Jeremiah Wright, Frank Davis, Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, who can sing the Muslim call to prayer in perfect Arabic.


67 posted on 07/12/2008 10:36:38 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: devolve

I think Al Gore should be tried for crimes against humanity for his “global warming” swindle which has the potential to cause untold suffering and even death (I’m not kidding, either, not after the lengthy power outage for hundreds of thousands of people in the U.K. caused by emission control regulations. Just imagine if this had happened in the middle of winter rather than in summer.) Anything you have against him should be shouted from the highest rooftop. He’s a blight upon humanity.


68 posted on 07/13/2008 4:25:35 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch


Wll done Phil -



obama is playing the redaction game -


69 posted on 07/13/2008 5:24:40 AM PDT by devolve (- Education: - Harvard Law School Affirmative Action -)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Nipfan

70 posted on 07/13/2008 5:33:01 AM PDT by devolve (- Education: - Harvard Law School Affirmative Action -)
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To: PhilDragoo
Notice on Obama's official site, his birth certificate says OHBM 1.1 in the lower left corner.

The original document displayed on the Daily KOS website says OHSM 1.1 in the lower left corner.

The million dollar question is: If the Daily KOS document was supplied by a Obama campaign staffer, as was reported, then how on earth can these two documents differ?

There may be a Hawaiian state agency or department with the initials 'OHBM', but I'm not aware of any.

The agency that you request a copy of a birth certificate from is the 'Office of Health Status Monitoring', OHSM.

The genie is out of the bottle now and it's impossible to "take back" the images. They are immortalized all over the web on different sites. Anyone can see this hard proof of skullduggery for themselves.

Why is the certificate # blacked out?

African is not a race! In 1961, wouldn't Negro or Negroid have been used to describe his Father's race instead of African?

Where is the indentation of the official seal and the folded marks, the rest of us have on our valid birth certificate copies?

Last but not least: What are the reverse purple lettering past the last entry line on the lower middle right? What do they mean, and why are they there?

Did Dan Blather's liar/chief forger, Mary Mapes create this bs?

Is this phoney birth certificate just another example of the Real but Fake Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate for Changing America?

Compare this doctored and phoney BC with a real one shown below:

Hey Obami, man of undocumented place of birth. You can settle this very quickly. Just authorize the officials in Hawaii to send official copies of your birth certificate to Jim Robinson and other conservative sites. Then, they can post the real authorized copies for everyone to see. We will take up a collection to pay for the authorized copy and Fed Ex overnight delivery to Jim Robinson/Free Republic so you will not have to worry about the cost.

Reality break: We probably have as much chance of seeing a real copy of Obami's birth certificate as seeing John Kerry’s full military record. Kerry refused to release his military records, and Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate will probably not show his BC. We will be labeled as racists for daring to question his birth place. The lying spinning MSM will continue to cover for Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas.

Be careful out there while looking for the truth. Look what happened to this poor guy!


71 posted on 07/13/2008 7:33:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: devolve

Good post!


72 posted on 07/13/2008 6:47:55 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Bump Phil.


73 posted on 07/13/2008 6:48:24 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: MindBender26
Please do not confuse law with common sense.

Suppose Obama insisted upon going into a room all alone to take the oath of office; he then came out of the room and claimed to have taken it. Should he then assume the office of President, in the absence of proof that he didn't take the oath, or should people refuse to honor any of his words or actions until such time as he can show that he has taken the oath?

74 posted on 07/14/2008 8:03:09 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
The problem is that the only mechanism for challenging his natural citizenship status is through the courts, as a plaintiff seeking a judgment that he not a natural citizen, as one Dem in New Hampshire has done to McCain.
75 posted on 07/14/2008 8:36:56 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: DakotaGator; freespirited

He is definitely hiding something more than being illegitimate,

Freepers, place your bets on the TOP TEN Audacities of Truth:

1. Born BHO in Hawaii, just ILLEGITIMATE - no dad listed.
2. Born BHO in Hawaii to a dad listed as ARAB, not negro.
3. Born BHO in Hawaii, to Muslim dad & race listed as WHITE.
4. Born BHO in WA, OR, CA or KS in ‘HOME for UN-WED girls.
5. Born Barry Dunham, not BHO, but born in Hawaii.
6. Born Barry Dunham, some OTHER GUY listed as dad.
7. Born Barry Dunham, in another state as in # 4.
8. Born Barry Dunham in CANADIAN ‘home for un-wed girls’
9. Born Barack Husein Obama in KENYA, Africa, but flown quickly to Hawaii and registered as home birth.
10. Born Barack Husein Obama in KENYA, Africa, and legally naturalized as American citizen at some later date


76 posted on 07/14/2008 10:49:39 PM PDT by Gemsbok (blood -hound tasting fresh blood on the obamination trail)
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To: Gemsbok

I really dont know but if you deprive me of sleep with all this and force me to say it’s more than illegitimacy I would probably go with the hospital of birth being blank on the original, casting doubt on whether his place of birth can be verified.

There has to be a reason he wont release the original. Presumably it reveals some detail he does not want known.


77 posted on 07/14/2008 10:56:56 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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To: Gemsbok
He is definitely hiding something more than being illegitimate...

Bingo!

78 posted on 07/15/2008 10:16:27 AM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: freespirited

........hospital of birth being blank on the original........

Co you imagine that CLBs are actually filed that way? Everyone has to be born somewhere, like home, the car, the beach, the hotel, the clinic, etc. I didn’t realize they would just leave it blank if the birth didn’t happen in a hospital.


79 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:04 AM PDT by Gemsbok (blood -hound tasting fresh blood on the obamination trail)
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To: Gemsbok

I am no authority on this, but from what I have read online, Hawaii supposedly had or still has a procedure where the parents can come along days or weeks after the birth and essentially say the child was born in Hawaii without the usual documentation. If I understand correctly it’s up to the powers that be to decide whether to issue a birth certificate.

I guess the idea here was to allow for home births?


80 posted on 07/15/2008 3:24:30 PM PDT by freespirited (Never vote for a man who gets his nails done.)
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