Obama’s BIG Birth Certificate PROBLEM (Freeper credited)

No Quarter ^ | 6/20/08 | Staff

[pissant]

I have acquired additional information related to my earlier posts today (at my blog) on the subject of Barack Obama’s ‘Certification of Live Birth.’

My first post on this subject, Obama Birth Certificate, Fake?, included an analysis that I came across by a blogger named Polarik, who concluded based on “20 years of experience in computers, printers, and typewriters” that the document provided by the Obama campaign (and published by Daily Kos) was manufactured.

In a subsequent post, Certification of Birth from Hawaii: Where’s the Seal?, I showed a ‘Certification of Live Birth’ from Honolulu County for Patricia Decosta, which I found posted at Free Republic (thanks to reader shainzona). (And yes, I know it’s a “right wing” publication but that does not make the information false).

Here is the document posted by the Obama campaign on its Fight the Smears website as evidence of Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961:

And here is Ms. Decosta’s certification:

Now, compare the two documents. Polarik’s technical analysis notwithstanding, my lay person’s eye noticed three differences right away:

1. Ms. Decosta’s certification displays fold marks, which you might expect to see on a document sent through the mail.

2. The certificate number on Obama’s document is blacked out; Ms. Decosta’s is not.

AND

3. An embossed seal is visible on Ms. Decosta’s certification; there is no embossed seal on Obama’s. (You can see the embossed seal very clearly on the larger image at FR here.)

The Vital Records office in Hawaii has confirmed the following with respect to requests for certified copies of birth certificates:

1. Certifications of live birth are always mailed from the VR office, and never transmitted electronically.

2. Certificate numbers are never blacked out.

AND

3. Certifications will always have an embossed seal.

[pissant]

Obama's fraudulent birth certification is now being exposed from the right and the lefties. LOL

Trouble is brewing.

And a guy who would fake a birth certification wouldn't be capable of sharing BJs and coke with a gay cruiser now would he?

[pissant]

Ping a ling

[Churchillspirit]

Excellent work, pissant.

[TexasCajun]

Yep, I mentioned the missing embossing seal the first time it was posted.

Maybe Dan can tell us for sure?

[VeniVidiVici]

I’ll admit it will be funny if something comes about with this. I mean, the Lefties were so gung-ho that McCain couldn’t be president because he was born in the Canal Zone that if something in Hussein’s background such as this does him in, well, THAT will be hilarious.

[snarks_when_bored]

Is there any doubt as to whether Obama’s mother was an American citizen? No. Therefore, Obama is an American citizen. End of story.

[monkeycard]

Good job!

[MaxMax]

They had computers in 1961 that could create these documents?
This is fraud, and Obama has some splainin to do.

I wonder is he's even a US citizen..

[pissant]

And I noticed that the alignment of the intersections of the bottom corner borders of the version on KOS’s webiste and the version on Obama’s website was different. Meaning this thing is being printed up from different printers, OR, someone ‘corrected’ it after spotting the error. In theory, they were jpgs of the same document. LOL

[mnehring]

Notice the first one says ‘date filed by the registrar’ and the second one says ‘date accepted by the registrar’?

[pissant]

No, this is the way they do it now. That part is legit. But Obama’s version just happens to be a fraudulent version of the modern computer printed document.

[pissant]

I did not notice that.

[pissant]

Not if he was born elsewhere.

[mnehring]

They had computers in 1961 that could create these documents?

Big mistake a lot of folks are making. These are Certification of Birth, not original Birth Certificates. They could have been printed yesterday by a registrar's office.

[beezdotcom]

Look, I'm not one to stand and defend Obama or his minions - but before we get too excited, note a few things:

The comparison presented is from someone born 30 years earlier, and before statehood - I know my Virginia birth certificate looks different than my mother's, so would I expect some revisions over the years. Let's look at one from a similar timeframe before we get too hot and bothered.

Likewise, with the folding - the last new copy of my birth certificate I ordered, it came in a large manilla envelope, and has still not been creased with a fold to this day. And yet, *gasp* it's REAL.

We're really reaching, here. If it's fake, let's prove it - but let's not breathlessly report things that are probably inconsequential.

[CedarDave]

2. Certificate numbers are never blacked out.

If the certificate is a fraud and the certificate number was not blacked out, it would seem to be easy to check the certificate number against the name. Therefore, the only reason for it to be blacked out is to avoid checking for fraud.

[mnehring]

They also both say Rev 11/01 which should indicate that they Certification's details would be the same as they are from the same registration batch (ie, something happened in 11/01 (updates to the privacy act jumps to mind for me) that made them change something on the certificate, be it paper, watermarks, included information, etc). Different information included, along with different paper should indicate a different revision.

Just to be sure, I would like to see three or four others so we know where the flaw is.

I also wouldn't use the blacked out number as proof. Obama’s office may have done this simply for privacy reasons.

[RightWingConspirator]

The lefties are not above forging documents as the Dan Rather fake document based “news report” in 2004 proved.

[AlaskaErik]

Under Father's Race, it states “African”. Africa is a continent, not a race. I would think that if the formal names of Caucasian and Negro were not used in 1961, then White and Black would have been used. I'm curious to see an unaltered birth certificate from that era for a black child.

[pissant]

It’s a fake. And freepers helped establsih that fact. But the best work is from a Townhall blogger:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032572/posts