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[Diana in Wisconsin]

I’d tell ya, but then I’d have to defeat you on the battlefield. Which I could do, BTW ;)

I have the 2002 edition published by Shambhala. It’s a direct translation, no one else’s comments/opinions other than Sun Tzu.

But, check out what the people at http://www.victoryoverwar.com have to say, too.

[RightWhale]

Buy the one nearest the cash regiater.

[indcons]

I’ll ping this thread to the Military History ping list. Can’t think of a better FReeper military history braintrust than this group of folks.

[PurpleMan]

I’m with #6. It’s just a friggin’ book! (sheesh)

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[dblshot]

If your son too is interested in strategy check out: http://www.carlisle.army.mil/library/bibs/SMRL2007.pdf

[JerseyHighlander]

You can find three free translations including the Lionel on www.archive.org
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22Sun%20Tzu%22

I prefer The Art of War: The Denma Translation (Shambhala Library) personally, compared to a 1950’s translation I read when in college.

Also free, the original 1910 Giles translation, 1st edition scanned:
http://www.archive.org/details/artofwaroldestmi00suntuoft

[Pistolshot]

Sun Tzu - The Art of War

The short version.

Kill your enemies.

Don't die.

[BGHater]

I prefer Sawyer, his The Complete Art of War has both Sun Tzu as well as Sun Bin.

I would also recommend The Seven Military Classics of Ancient China by Robert Sawyer as a Companion, it includes:
1) T’ai Kung’s Six Secret Teachings
2) The Methods of Ssu-ma
3) Sun-tzu’s Art of War
4) Wu-tzu
5) Wei Liao-tzu
6) Three Strategies of Huang Shih-kung
7) Questions and Replies between T'ang T’ai-tsung and Li Wei-kung

You kinda double up on some of the previous topics but it does aid in the knowledge for the Chinese way of War.

[Revolting cat!]

And then, there is of course this masterpiece!

[Radix]

If you are buying Sun Tzu for your son, then you might want to consider another book also.

 

 

[AFreeBird]

I have a book entitled: "The Seven Military Classics of Ancient China" Including "The Art of War" - Translated by Ralph D. Sawyer. Published by Westview Press (1993) ISBN: 0-8133-1228-0. Over 500 pages. Seven Chapters:

1 T'ai Kung's Six Secret Teachings
2 The Methods of the Ssu-ma
3 Sun-tzu's Art of War
4 Wu-tzu
5 Wei Liao-tzu
6 Three Strategies of Haung Shih-kung
7 Questions and Replies Between T'ang T'ai-tsung and Li Wei-kung

All chapters include the translator's introduction.

There are 5 Appendixes

A The Chariot
B The Horse and Cavalry
C Armor and Shield
D The Sword
E Military Organization

So if you're looking for strategy texts, this would encompass more than just the one. You can be sure our Chinese adversaries have read them all, and more.

[Old Student]

Personally, I like James Clavell’s translation, but I can’t swear to it’s accuracy.

This one is free:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/132

Something a little more modern might be of interest, too. This one was once a standard text at the Air Force’s Air War College.

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/sot/sot_intro.htm

[Mr Rogers]

I can only say that I thought reading The Art of War was like reading a fortune cookie - you can make it mean anything you want...

[opbuzz]

Give him this file, by Giles in 1910, well footnoted.

Giles was the guru for chinese translations at the beginning of the 20th century.

www.idph.com.br/conteudos/ebooks/suntzu10.pdf

[opbuzz]

Give him this file, by Giles in 1910, well footnoted.

Giles was the guru for chinese translations at the beginning of the 20th century.

www.idph.com.br/conteudos/ebooks/suntzu10.pdf

Bookstores also have a small (2”x3”) version that is very inexpensive and easily carried. The Sea Control Weapons School awarded them to the Weapons and Tactics Instructors upon graduation.