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Blame Fred Thompson!
The Frederalist ^ | November 23, 2007 | Josh Painter

Posted on 11/23/2007 7:02:20 PM PST by Josh Painter

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To: papasmurf
but he voted against raising pay and benefits to the troops.

Really? When was that? EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF CONGRESS THAT BASIC PAY FOR MEMBERS OF ARMED FORCES SHOULD BE INCREASED -- (House of Representatives - November 06, 2007)

Yeas = 409, Not Voting = 23

BTW, Duncan Hunter was not one of the 23, but was one of the 409.

he’s missed almost 30% of the votes and many of them National Security related.

Please provide source and links for this claim. Thanks!

21 posted on 11/23/2007 9:45:25 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Rick_Michael
"I think no one should attack Fred or Duncan."

I couldn't agree more. All the threads pitting Hunter supporters against Thompson supporters and vice versa are counter productive and personally I wouldn't mind the moderators getting a bit more aggressive in their thankless work.

22 posted on 11/23/2007 9:56:07 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?" --Greg Adams--Brownsville, TX --On the other Front Line)
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To: daylilly; Bull Market

See post #21 on how Hunter voted against raising the troops’ pay. *rolls eyes*


23 posted on 11/23/2007 9:56:09 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Josh Painter

Fred’s fault ... ;o)


24 posted on 11/23/2007 9:59:50 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: papasmurf
believe me, he has made some in his 26 years

I am sure he has made some mistakes in 27 years. I wonder how many he made in his first 8 years?

25 posted on 11/23/2007 10:05:03 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: ImpBill

I would vote against censorship.

I know lots of people lump Thompson and Hunter together, but I don’t. To me, Thompson is no better than Romney or Guilianni. They are all running to the right during the campaign and they will all govern from the center once elected. That’s why I coined the term, CDEO instead of RINO. they are all republicans but are only Conservative During Elections Only.


26 posted on 11/23/2007 10:06:51 PM PST by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!! The steakiest steak in the race!!)
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To: upsdriver
Thompson is no better than Romney or Guilianni.

*quirks an eyebrow* You're joking, right?

27 posted on 11/23/2007 10:08:29 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Josh Painter
I like Hunter's stance on immigration and on the military. Hunter's better than McCain (McCain-kennedy Amnesty , McCain-FeinGold), the pro-illegal socialist Huckabee Huckster,Rooty, Romney and any other top tier Repubican candidates except for Thompson. I like Fred's small government federalism . but Hunter seems to be a big government guy . And I'm for free trade so it's a tough choice between Hunger and Thompson because i like Hunter on immigration and national security. but i would choose Fred and hope he is like Hunter on immigration and does the right thing on immigration and deports the illegals.
Since Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) is apparently going to explore the possibility of running for president in 2008, I thought I'd dig up some of his roll call votes. Like most Republicans, he's strong on tax cuts, but he's been part of the big government spending spree of the last 6 years. He also has a protectionist streak in him. Here are some of the more troubling votes:

NO on NAFTA YES on No Child Left Behind YES on Sarbanes-Oxley YES on the 2003 Medicare Drug Benefit NO on CAFTA YES on 2005 Highway Bill YES on the 527 bill (like most Republicans, he flip-flopped, having first voted NO on McCain-Feingold)

Hunter also went 0 for 19 on the Flake anti-pork amendments.

Despite being a member of the Republican Study Committee, Hunter frequently votes NO on their fiscally conservative annual budgets (2006, 2005, 2003...)

We gave him a 49% on the 2005 Club for Growth scorecard. That places him 187th within the House GOP conference, out of roughly 230 members.

National Taxpayers Union shows a more telling trend. He was strong in the early 1990s, getting "B's" and one "A", but as time went by, like most politicians, his score dropped. For the past few years, he's been getting "C's".

http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2006/10/duncan_hunters_voting_record.php
28 posted on 11/23/2007 10:12:31 PM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are communists/Socialists.Socialism is an economic disaster.)
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To: Josh Painter

Actually, I had a discussion on what is bashing.

It started here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=121#121

and was left hanging here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926883/posts?page=129#129

Perhaps you would like to review those posts and respond?


29 posted on 11/23/2007 10:12:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Actually, no. I believe thompson would make a horrible president. Like I said, I disagree with alot of Hunter supporters in this regard.


30 posted on 11/23/2007 10:20:42 PM PST by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!! The steakiest steak in the race!!)
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To: upsdriver; Ultra Sonic 007

I’m with you UPS. I wouldn’t even vote for Hunter if Thompson shared a ticket.


31 posted on 11/23/2007 10:35:24 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>>>See post #21 on how Hunter voted against raising the troops’ pay. *rolls eyes*

*rolls eyes* is right. That is propaganda. There was a rider on that bill. I don’t remember if it was for troop withdrawal or amnesty; but something was added.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2005/m05-21.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/fy2007/m07-02.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/109-2/hr5122sap-h.pdf

Note the last one was co-authored by Duncan Hunter.


32 posted on 11/23/2007 10:37:40 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: papasmurf
What documents papasmurf?

“Despite some accusations of ties to men convicted or charged in the scandal of his friend and former U.S. Rep. Randy Cunningham, that relationship has not dogged Hunter on the campaign trail. Beyond a defense attorney’s failed effort to subpoena him and other lawmakers, Hunter’s name has not surfaced in any of the investigations linked to the now-imprisoned Cunningham.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/10/28/news/sandiego/30_19_4610_27_07.txt

33 posted on 11/23/2007 10:46:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Democrat_media
I think Toomey and Hunter must have had a serious clash.

First, the way CFG handled Hunter (is apparently going to explore the possibility of running for president in 2008) was just plain nasty.

Second, they have Paul up there for all the world to see, but no Hunter.

Third, of the 3 years that CFG uses to prove Hunter is not fiscally conservative, one of them, 2003, was the Toomey of Pennsylvania substitute amendment. The thing only received 80 out of 422 votes. There had to have been a major problem with that amendment for that kind of vote, IMHO.

34 posted on 11/23/2007 11:14:02 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Democrat_media

Do you know why his scores went down with the NTU and Club for growth?

Massive defense cuts. Hunter opposed.

Handing our sovereignty over to WTO, NAFTA, etc. Hunter opposed. Signing suicide pact with China - Hunter opposed.

earmarking millions for defense projects, border fences and detention facilities.

Thems the facts.


35 posted on 11/23/2007 11:22:02 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: upsdriver; Ultra Sonic 007

He might not be a bad president, but he has a weak record.


36 posted on 11/23/2007 11:23:39 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Just A Nobody

Duncan Hunter has missed 322 votes (28.8%) during the current Congress.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/h000981/


37 posted on 11/23/2007 11:43:58 PM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: Politicalmom

He’s running for President. How much has Tanc and McCain missed?


38 posted on 11/23/2007 11:52:59 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Calpernia
Being that 4 of us in my family have service connected disabilities, this is a subject that is very touchy to me.

Duncan Hunter gets a "C" grade from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans Association
2006 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 50 percent in 2006.
2006 In 2006 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Representative Hunter a grade of C.
2006 Representative Hunter sponsored or co-sponsored 7 percent of the legislation favored by the The Retired Enlisted Association in 2006.
2005 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 0 percent in 2005.
2004 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 0 percent in 2004.
2004 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the The Retired Enlisted Association 33 percent in 2004.
2003-2004 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Vietnam Veterans of America 38 percent in 2003-2004.
2003 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the American Veterans 50 percent in 2003.
2003 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 0 percent in 2003.
2003 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the The American Legion 40 percent in 2003.
2001 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 100 percent in 2001.
2001 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Vietnam Veterans of America 77 percent in 2001.
1999 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 100 percent in 1999.
1997-1998 Representative Hunter supported the interests of the Vietnam Veterans of America 50 percent in 1997-1998.
1989-1990 On the votes that the Vietnam Veterans of America considered to be the most important in 1989-1990 , Representative Hunter voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.
VoteSmart.org

Face it. FRed Thompson is a better man for our Country at this time.

Your man has no public "face", lacks "fire in the belly", doesn't really want the job, and is a big fat goose egg in the polls.
39 posted on 11/23/2007 11:57:25 PM PST by papasmurf (FRed Thompson hasn't killed anyone, how many has yours killed???)
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To: pissant

Ron Paul has missed 280 votes (25.1%) during the current Congress.

Tom Tancredo has missed 311 votes (27.9%) during the current Congress.

I think it’s thievery by all of them.


40 posted on 11/24/2007 12:16:53 AM PST by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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